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1429: "Data"

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:34 am UTC
by ilduri
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Alt text: If you want to have more fun at the expense of language pedants, try developing an hypercorrection habit.

Also use singular they only when it refers to a specific person. :)

just adding quotes to the title - Angua

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:01 am UTC
by rhomboidal
I also use "datae" to form the plural of data, and "dataes" for the plural of the plural. Then sit back and watch the fireworks.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:07 am UTC
by jgh
Aarrgghh. Brain... Must... Grammar... ((splat))

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:12 am UTC
by ilduri
Some alumnis of my school were interviewed in various news mediae.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:37 am UTC
by Durandal_1707
Kirk and Picard are more popular than Spock? That can't be right.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:12 am UTC
by Plasma Mongoose
Where's the love for Sisko and Janeway?

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:34 am UTC
by speising
Wesley!

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:36 am UTC
by Envelope Generator
G'Kar!

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:38 am UTC
by PinkShinyRose
Durandal_1707 wrote:Kirk and Picard are more popular than Spock? That can't be right.

The datums are always right.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:40 am UTC
by da Doctah
Durandal_1707 wrote:Kirk and Picard are more popular than Spock? That can't be right.

It depends upon what criterias were used.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:04 am UTC
by sfmans
It's a double whammy folks - Randall has simultaneously stirred up both the Grammar Police and the Trekkies!
Spoiler:
Yes I know ... it's Grammar Nazis, only other people call them Grammar Police :)

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:42 am UTC
by NotAllThere
According to New Scientist, if, while pointing out someone else's grammatical or spelling error, you make one of your own - that's prosaic justice.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:09 am UTC
by TheEngineer
Plasma Mongoose wrote:Where's the love for Sisko and Janeway?

Voyager was never as popular as TNG.
Data must be worth at least two Neelices.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:12 am UTC
by orthogon
Actually, the most popular datum are WGS84.

Edit: I just thought I ought to link "Actually" to the relevant comic; I was kind of weirded out, when I went there to get the link, to be reminded that the comic was about Geodesy...

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:18 am UTC
by azule
Datum? I barely knew 'em. ;)

TheEngineer wrote:
Plasma Mongoose wrote:Where's the love for Sisko and Janeway?

Voyager was never as popular as TNG.
Sisko is from DSN and Janeway from uh...after that? I did watch a few episodes of all ST except for "Enterprise".

So, plurals, eh? Let's find the plural of that last sentence/question. "So" would becomes "sos" or...."soes"? lol. "Plurals" would become "pluralsi" or "pluralses". And, finally, "eh" would become "ehs". This all seems very, very wrong.

I'm looking forward to more examples.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:29 am UTC
by Pfhorrest
Octopii.
Octopodes.
Octopuses.
Octopodiis?

And viriis? Virodiis?

Octopovirodiis?

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:32 am UTC
by GodShapedBullet
This comic reminded me of this clip of Data correcting Dr. Pulaski on the pronunciation of his name. The scene is inspirational to me... my name gets pretty frequently mispronounced and I love how Data corrects her so much.. He's calm, polite, respectful, but at the same time resolute and unwavering, even though Dr. Pulaski deflects with humor.

This is an ideal of how to stand up for yourself for me.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:42 am UTC
by Envelope Generator
Pfhorrest wrote:Octopii.
Octopodes.
Octopuses.
Octopodiis?

And viriis? Virodiis?

Octopovirodiis?


I see your tangle of octopusim and raise you an ugly of walrodes.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:47 am UTC
by Tova
Tsk. It should be "the most popular characters are data," obviously.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:02 am UTC
by DennyMo
...when referring to the android

[ahem] As Data so frequently reminds us, the preferred term is "Artificial Lifeform"...
:P

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:11 am UTC
by orthogon
Tova wrote:Tsk. It should be "the most popular characters are data," obviously.

In a sense, the most popular characters in The Matrix really are data.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:25 am UTC
by cellocgw
Plasma Mongoose wrote:Where's the love for Sisko and Janeway?


Love for a router manufacturer and a truck-towing company? :D


Besides, the topic clearly begs the question of whether the grammar pedants group is comprised of very unique individuals who won't tow the line when it comes to spelling "anal-compulsive" without an hyphen.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:36 am UTC
by orthogon
cellocgw wrote:Besides, the topic clearly begs the question of if the grammar pedants group is comprised of very unique individuals who won't tow the line when it comes to spelling "anal-compulsive" without an hyphen.

FTFY. Otherwise, excellent work.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:15 pm UTC
by mojacardave
Envelope Generator wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:Octopii.
Octopodes.
Octopuses.
Octopodiis?

And viriis? Virodiis?

Octopovirodiis?


I see your tangle of octopusim and raise you an ugly of walrodes.


Eep. I should have known it was a bad idea to check a grammar thread - maybe I'll just go and watch a couple of episodes from one of my DVD omnibodes instead.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:33 pm UTC
by nigenet
DennyMo wrote:
...when referring to the android

[ahem] As Data so frequently reminds us, the preferred term is "Artificial Lifeform"...
:P


Data was quite happy to refer to himself as an android.

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001459/quotes has plenty of references of him saying "I am an android" :-)

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:39 pm UTC
by jgh
Pfhorrest wrote:Octopii.
Octopodes.
Octopuses.
Octopodiis?

And viriis? Virodiis?

Octopovirodiis?

Octopussoir?

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:30 pm UTC
by jc
NotAllThere wrote:According to New Scientist, if, while pointing out someone else's grammatical or spelling error, you make one of your own - that's prosaic justice.

When posting grammer flames, I have a policy of mispelling "grammar" and "misspell". Then I sit back and wait for the corrections to poor (or is it pore?) in.

A quick google check shows that urbandictionary lists "mispell" as one of the more common mispellings (Miss Spellings?) that are commonly used humo[u]ro[u]sly.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:34 pm UTC
by thevicente
In some episodes there were apparently two Datas.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:53 pm UTC
by cellocgw
thevicente wrote:In some episodes there were apparently two Datas.


Which almost got me in trouble back in high school Latin class when the teacher asked me to write out the declension for the plural of "unus." I pointed out that it was in fact a valid exercise since, e.g., "Do you have any Ones?" "Go fish" .

Also, for all you octopussuffixians: a terrible joke my niece inflicted upon us.

What does it take to make a squid laugh?

Ten Tickles.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:16 pm UTC
by orthogon
jgh wrote:
Pfhorrest wrote:Octopii.
Octopodes.
Octopuses.
Octopodiis?

And viriis? Virodiis?

Octopovirodiis?

Octopussoir?

Octopussae, pronounced "Octopussy".

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:42 pm UTC
by Arancaytar
an hypercorrection habit


an 'ypercorrection 'abit?

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:47 pm UTC
by Sprocket
This is my new cell phone, the data are very fast on this Android.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:49 pm UTC
by Apeiron
cellocgw wrote:
Plasma Mongoose wrote:Where's the love for Sisko and Janeway?


Love for a router manufacturer and a truck-towing company? :D


Besides, the topic clearly begs the question of whether the grammar pedants group is comprised of very unique individuals who won't tow the line when it comes to spelling "anal-compulsive" without an hyphen.


THE PAIN!

THERE ARE ONE DATUMS!

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:49 pm UTC
by rmsgrey
thevicente wrote:In some episodes there were apparently two Datas.


There are at least three artificial lifeforms played by Brent Spiner in the (Abrams-free) Star Trek universe - Data, Lore and B4. I am not aware of any occurrences of multiple Datas except possibly in Star Trek: Nemesis where I dimly recall B4 being overwritten by a copy of Data in order to allow Data to survive committing suicide.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:04 pm UTC
by Krealr
rmsgrey wrote:
thevicente wrote:In some episodes there were apparently two Datas.


There are at least three artificial lifeforms played by Brent Spiner in the (Abrams-free) Star Trek universe - Data, Lore and B4. I am not aware of any occurrences of multiple Datas except possibly in Star Trek: Nemesis where I dimly recall B4 being overwritten by a copy of Data in order to allow Data to survive committing suicide.


I feel like there were some episodes with either time travel or multiple dimensions spawning multiple enterprises were there were presumably multiple datas (as well as most of the rest of the crew).

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:12 pm UTC
by Angua
There was the one where they find Data's head, while Data is there. I don't think they turn him on until Data goes back in time to where the head came from, but should count as multiple Datas.

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:09 pm UTC
by orthogon
azule wrote:"Plurals" would become "pluralsi" or "pluralses"

This made me think of Gollum's "pocketses" and "hobbitses"; it's not completely clear, but could it be the case that two plurals make a singular? (Bilbo asks "What have I got in my pocket?", which Gollum turns into "What has it got in its nasty little pocketses?".) Or is Gollum just terminally confused regarding grammatical number?

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:28 pm UTC
by da Doctah
orthogon wrote: could it be the case that two plurals make a singular? (Bilbo asks "What have I got in my pocket?", which Gollum turns into "What has it got in its nasty little pocketses?".) Or is Gollum just terminally confused regarding grammatical number?


Ask Mace Windu in Backstroke of the West:

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Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:12 pm UTC
by operagost
speising wrote:Shut up, Wesley!

FTFY

Re: 1429: Data

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:15 pm UTC
by operagost
thevicente wrote:In some episodes there were apparently two Datas.

A fistful of them, even.