1446: "Landing"

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby orthogon » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:12 pm UTC

ahecht wrote:
TeddyB wrote:Excuse me but why does it say "U.S. Scientists: Proud" when this is the EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY's achievement? What about EUROPEAN scientists...?


What, they can't be proud of their ESA counterparts?

Also: http://rosetta.jpl.nasa.gov/mission-facts/nasas-role
NASA has been involved with this international mission since 1995.

NASA contributed three instruments (ALICE, MIRO, and IES) to Rosetta, and part of the electronics package for the Double Focusing Mass Spectrometer, one of two detectors on the Swiss ROSINA instrument. NASA is also providing science investigators for selected non-U.S. instruments. In all, NASA is involved to a greater or lesser degree in ALICE, MIRO, IES, OSIRIS, Radio Science, ROSINA, and VIRTIS experiments. NASA's Deep Space Network provides support for ESA's Ground Station Network used in spacecraft tracking and navigation.


Hang on, there's an ALICE on Rosetta as well as in the LHC? It really is time there was a central naming registry for big science experiments to avoid embarrassing clashes like this.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:14 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:Hang on, there's an ALICE on Rosetta as well as in the LHC?

There's also an ALICE in Wonderland.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Whizbang » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:14 pm UTC

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby eidako » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

HES wrote:Molpy down, BlitzGirl. The comet will still be there when you wake up.

Strictly speaking it'll have moved some 330,000 miles from there.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby JDGA » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

The comet looks like some kind of heart in that image.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

Let's just hope it doesn't end with a fatality.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby burnthills » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:15 pm UTC

They better not puncture the outer layer lest they want to unleash all the red spiders ever

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:16 pm UTC

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:17 pm UTC

Scientists are no longer U.S. Guess the nervousness has spread throughout the world.

Edit: Also the whole view is shifting. Who's holding the camera?

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Valarya » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:20 pm UTC

Philae wiggled!
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby PolakoVoador » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:20 pm UTC

It's impossible to get work done with so much space drama happening

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:20 pm UTC

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:21 pm UTC

Valarya wrote:Philae wiggled!


I think it's still settling down.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:21 pm UTC

*wiggle...IN SPAAACE!*
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Patteroast » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:22 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:Hang on, there's an ALICE on Rosetta as well as in the LHC? It really is time there was a central naming registry for big science experiments to avoid embarrassing clashes like this.


There's one on New Horizons, on its way to Pluto next year, as well.

Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby moody7277 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:23 pm UTC

Klear wrote:
Valarya wrote:Philae wiggled!


I think it's still settling down.


Yah, in microgravity the definition of "landed" is a bit fuzzy.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Foarm » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:25 pm UTC

Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Where did you read that?
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:25 pm UTC

Timestamps also confirmed tricky. My sense of time is not so good right now, but 16:55 seems quite a bit off.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Patteroast » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:26 pm UTC

Foarm wrote:
Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Where did you read that?

Emily Lakdawalla on Twitter.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby rmsgrey » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:27 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:Timestamps also confirmed tricky. My sense of time is not so good right now, but 16:55 seems quite a bit off.


It's about right for a "live" feed from Philae

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby gnutrino » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:28 pm UTC

Foarm wrote:
Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Where did you read that?


Ice screws worked

Philae is on the surface and returning data

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:28 pm UTC

moody7277 wrote:
Klear wrote:
Valarya wrote:Philae wiggled!


I think it's still settling down.


Yah, in microgravity the definition of "landed" is a bit fuzzy.


That must be why it says "Yes, at least once".

I guess it's not simple. These things are exactly rocket science.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:29 pm UTC

rmsgrey wrote:
BlitzGirl wrote:Timestamps also confirmed tricky. My sense of time is not so good right now, but 16:55 seems quite a bit off.

It's about right for a "live" feed from Philae

Ah, that makes sense.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Moose Anus » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:29 pm UTC

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Foarm » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:34 pm UTC

Patteroast wrote:
Foarm wrote:
Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Where did you read that?

Emily Lakdawalla on Twitter.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:35 pm UTC

Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Yay for redundancy!
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby NoMouse » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:36 pm UTC

Patteroast wrote:
Foarm wrote:
Patteroast wrote:Latest I'm reading is that although the harpoons didn't fire, the ice screws did and Philae is still on the surface and returning data.

Where did you read that?

Emily Lakdawalla on Twitter.

Wow, they seem to have lot of fun too.
Emily Lakdawalla on twitter wrote:Just ran in to an old friend from Huygens, Marcello Fulchignoni. He cracked some dark jokes about ESA having not a lander, but a slider #eep

Emily Lakdawalla on twitter wrote:But hey, maybe this means @Philae2014 will be the first ever comet rover! #justkidding #wellmostlykidding #CometLanding

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:37 pm UTC

#CometSliding
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:37 pm UTC

NoMouse wrote:Wow, they seem to have lot of fun too.
Emily Lakdawalla on twitter wrote:Just ran in to an old friend from Huygens, Marcello Fulchignoni. He cracked some dark jokes about ESA having not a lander, but a slider #eep



So... it will enter an alternate universe?

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Foarm » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:38 pm UTC

Thanks everyone for the company on the forums. My work day is done (my work isn't) and I'm heading home.
[Edit]: Have fun waiting
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Djehutynakht » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:39 pm UTC

I swear, this whole thing will, in practical terms, be a total success, and we're all going to be totally disappointed because they never fired any space harpoons.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Foarm » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:41 pm UTC

One last post:
Here is an image of the descent https://twitter.com/elakdawalla/status/532588101806596096
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:41 pm UTC

Hey, I'm not nervous! I'm still confused!

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby manvandmaan » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:41 pm UTC

Djehutynakht wrote:I swear, this whole thing will, in practical terms, be a total success, and we're all going to be totally disappointed because they never fired any space harpoons.

Without the harpoons they basically just put a thing on another thing, in space.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:42 pm UTC

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby burnthills » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:42 pm UTC

Try to comfort yourselves by remembering all the harpoons that ARE used underwater, all the time.

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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Klear » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:42 pm UTC

manvandmaan wrote:
Djehutynakht wrote:I swear, this whole thing will, in practical terms, be a total success, and we're all going to be totally disappointed because they never fired any space harpoons.

Without the harpoons they basically just put a thing on another thing, in space.


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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby orthogon » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:44 pm UTC

How to you screw into the ground below you in a micro-g of gravity? Self tappers are hard enough to get started at the best of times. With bugger all to push against it sounds like the DIY job from hell. The air around Philae would be blue, if there was any.
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Re: 1446: "Landing"

Postby Envelope Generator » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:47 pm UTC

Isn't that what the top thruster (which supposedly did function) was for?
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