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1759: "British Map"

Postby moody7277 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:54 pm UTC

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Title-text: West Norsussex is east of East Norwessex, but they're both far north of Middlesex and West Norwex.

Apparently it's an American who's read the Silmarillion, based of that name in the far north.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby wolfpurplemoon » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:56 pm UTC

Southframpton XD

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Jorpho » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:58 pm UTC

What, no Wainscotting?

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby jmose » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:05 pm UTC

Uh, Paisley is in the wrong place. It should be just outside Glassdoor, as it is where Glasgow's airport is.

My Mom was from Troon, so I'm assuming the Meowth is where you breath Ayr?

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby eran_rathan » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:06 pm UTC

The Welsh names need more consonants, like Mwnt and Plwmp and Llanfairpwllgwyngyll.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:12 pm UTC

jmose wrote:Uh, Paisley is in the wrong place. It should be just outside Glassdoor, as it is where Glasgow's airport is.

I was wondering whether whether Randall accidentally generated the names that are real places but are not where they're shown on the map.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby doogly » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:13 pm UTC

moody7277 wrote:Apparently it's an American who's read the Silmarillion, based of that name in the far north.

Indeed. A move to Helcaraxe is rather clever, but has been considered rather boorish play and disappeared from all competition brackets save the 19A0 Rule Capsule Circuit. But of course the lot of them are rank boors anyway, refusing to accept the amended standards after the Thistle Moot Concordat.

But yes, it is a rather clever ruleset, so I'll have to move to Yawkey to bide time.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby leafar » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:17 pm UTC

Can anyone explain the reason for a protractor in between Scotland and Northern Ireland?
I wish he had combined the names of the few correct labels in the map and called them "Oxbridge" and "Camford"...

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby ramblinjd » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:33 pm UTC

I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:

Real places:
    London
    Oxford
    Cambridge
    Paisley (mislocated)
    Loch Lomond
    North Sea


Made up places:
    Camelot
    Cair Paravel
    Minas Tirith
    The Shire
    Hogsmeade
    Camelot
    Helcaraxe

Puns on real places:
    Belfast Devoe
    Dubstep
    Everdeen
    Fjordham
    Glassdoor
    Borough-upon-mappe
    Hamwich
    West Norsussex
    Bloughshire
    Dryford
    Kingsfriend
    Whaling
    Moorhen
    Nothingham
    South Norwessex
    Dampshire
    Tems-upon-Thames
    Cambnewton
    Southframpton

Memes/People/Businesses:
    Bjork
    Cadbury
    FHQWHGADS
    Redsox
    Lionsgate
    Keebler
    Cumberbatch
    Paulblart
    GMT
    Tubemap
    Menthol
    Dobby
    The CW
    BBC Channel 4

Pokemon:
    Meowth
    Weedle
    Chansey



Two words stuck together:
    Eavestroughs
    Seasedge
    Glutenfree
    Eyemouth
    Earhand
    Hairskull
    Lakebottom
    Braintree
    Skinflower
    Crewneck
    Hillfolk
    Waterdown
    Kingsbottom

Others:
    Chough
    Blighton
    Aidenn
    Basil
    Cabinetry
    Cardigan
    Sundial
    Blandford
    Efrafa

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Heimhenge » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:42 pm UTC

leafar wrote:Can anyone explain the reason for a protractor in between Scotland and Northern Ireland?
I wish he had combined the names of the few correct labels in the map and called them "Oxbridge" and "Camford"...


Yeah, I wondered about that too. Best I can figure is that it's a take-off on the typical compass rose found on maps.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby HES » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:50 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:Puns on real places:
Nothingham

In my ire that it was in the wrong location, I completely failed to notice the missing T.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby DanD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:53 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:
[...]

Others:
    [...]
    Blandford
    [...]


Put that one on the list of real places. Heck, if the dot were on the other side of the name, it would be in just about the right spot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blandford_Forum

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby karhell » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:54 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:Others:
    Blighton => uncomfortably close to Blighttown... Not touching that place with a 10 foot pole, if it's all the same to you.
    Cardigan => actually a place, albeit mislocated. Could be unintentional.
On the other hand, Blighton could be a very mislocated (and misspelled) Brighton ?
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Canard » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:58 pm UTC

Braintree is also a real place, but a considerable distance south of where it is located on the map. I find that I am located somewhere in the blank spot between Oxford and Cumberbatch.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby HES » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:00 pm UTC

I'm a little disappointed that Cadbury isn't located just south of Birmingham
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby elliptic » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:06 pm UTC

I'm a little disappointed that Cadbury isn't located just south of Birmingham


It's actually just north of Exeter.

...and about 60km west of both North Cadbury and South Cadbury.

Cardigan is a real place, as well.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby HES » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:10 pm UTC

Shit, so it is. I was associating it with Bournville.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby cellocgw » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:14 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:


Puns on real places:
    {snip}
    Southframpton

I thought all the *frampton items were a reference to a certain Peter .

Memes/People/Businesses:
    {snip}
    Redsox

For a local boy, he got that wrong: it's "Bosox" . Not to be confused with Botox. Or oxbows.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Whizbang » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:16 pm UTC

Perhaps I spend too much time around less high-brow Interpages, but I fully expected a Fappinghand somewhere in that.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby CharlieP » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:25 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:

Real places:
    London
    Oxford
    Cambridge
    Paisley (mislocated)
    Loch Lomond
    North Sea

Others:
    Chough
    Blighton
    Aidenn
    Basil
    Cabinetry
    Cardigan - town in Wales. (mislocated)
    Sundial
    Blandford - there's a Blandford Forum in Dorset which only acquired the Forum suffix about 500 years ago. (mislocated)
    Efrafa
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby svenman » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:28 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:

Partially ninja'd meanwhile, but I'm posting anyway as I've gone to the trouble to provide links:

Braintree, Cadbury and Cardigan are mislocated real places.
Frampton is the name of several real places in Britain, none of which are in the location the map shows it in. [Edit: One of them is not too far off, though.]
Efrafa is a made-up place much like Camelot or the Tolkien ones, but with an (accurately shown) well-defined real world location.
Camelot appears twice in your list.
[Edit:] And the Highlands are a real place too, of course.
[Edit again:] "Cabinetry" might be a pun on Oswestry? The location looks like a reasonably close fit.
[And again:] [Scratch that, that goes into its own post.]
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby RAGBRAIvet » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:29 pm UTC

Title-text: West Norsussex is east of East Norwessex, but they're both far north of Middlesex and West Norwex.
So where is Gaysex?

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby alanbbent » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:31 pm UTC

Unexpected Fhqwhgads.

Also, how do the locals pronounce Oughghough?

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby knofster » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:34 pm UTC

I think that the protractor is a reference to the Mull of Kintyre Test: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mull_of_Kintyre_test

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Whizbang » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:43 pm UTC

alanbbent wrote:Also, how do the locals pronounce Oughghough?

Oh-ff-Ow

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:45 pm UTC

Whizbang wrote:
alanbbent wrote:Also, how do the locals pronounce Oughghough?

Oh-ff-Ow

A lot of tourists make that mistake, but actually it's more like "Bahn-sta-pull".
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:03 pm UTC

I wanted to do one like this with GB divided up into counties or shires or whatever they're called, but label them with the names of different cuts of meat from the butcher's chart.

Or the converse, showing an animal carcass with cuts identified as "Devon", "Sussex" and "Monmouthshire" and such.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby svenman » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:11 pm UTC

eran_rathan wrote:The Welsh names need more consonants, like Mwnt and Plwmp and Llanfairpwllgwyngyll.

In fact, W is considered a vowel in Welsh, pronounced like English "oo". (While this explains a lot, I as a non-Welshman find that knowing this does little in practice to curb my bafflement at the sight of Welsh placenames.)

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moody7277 wrote:Apparently it's an American who's read the Silmarillion, based of that name in the far north.

Indeed. A move to Helcaraxe is rather clever, but has been considered rather boorish play and disappeared from all competition brackets save the 19A0 Rule Capsule Circuit. But of course the lot of them are rank boors anyway, refusing to accept the amended standards after the Thistle Moot Concordat.

But yes, it is a rather clever ruleset, so I'll have to move to Yawkey to bide time.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Muswell » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:17 pm UTC

cellocgw wrote:
ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:



Memes/People/Businesses:
    {snip}
    Redsox

For a local boy, he got that wrong: it's "Bosox" . Not to be confused with Botox. Or oxbows.



And shouldn't it actually be where he's put Cadbury?

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby dennisw » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:23 pm UTC

Very reminiscent of The Meaning of Liff.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Sableagle » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:30 pm UTC

Blandford's the home of the Royal Signals Museum, whose archives include two sheets of unused WW2 general-issue toilet paper, a copy of Chairman Mao's Little Red Book and an autographed copy of Mein Kampf. They've also got a chess set made out of .303 rounds, cases and bullets, a whole load of medals and old radio sets, some old vehicles and a bunch of displays of other stuff.

The Shire's a bit further north than it's shown. Compare the patterns of rivers around Kirby Lonsdale (Sedbergh to Glasson, Kendal to Deepdale) to those on the maps of The Shire. The Hobbits in the books are stereotype Yorkshire Dales people, but the map pushed the Pennines west, so the Vale Of York became Rhovannion and the Dales pretty much disappeared. That makes the Lake District the Grey Havens, Wales rather haunted and London Mordor.

Randall did get "Eeugh" in the right place, but that's a comment, not a place name. It's actually called Hull.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Someguy945 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:34 pm UTC

Here is a handy list of Homestar Runner references in xkcd comics. I wanted to add today's, but someone else already did it.

http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Comic_Sightings#xkcd

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby KodiakRS » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:37 pm UTC

RAGBRAIvet wrote:Title-text: West Norsussex is east of East Norwessex, but they're both far north of Middlesex and West Norwex.
So where is Gaysex?


It's that island between England and Ireland. Also known for being a tax haven. Also, also, known for being a place where motorcycles are ridden at reasonable and prudent speeds.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby wolf99 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:38 pm UTC

Pure pedantry, but Dubstep isn't in Britain.
In fact to be a complete pedanthole, Belfast Devoe isn't in Britain either.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:41 pm UTC

ramblinjd wrote:I see a few categories emerging... feel free to edit/rearrange/discuss:

Puns on real places:
    Aberforth - arguably a "Barmouth/Abermawr" pun, if Randall knows Welsh at all. (Wouldn't put it past him, even if a long shot...) And it's virtually in the right spot for it, given everything. (Ok, so one whole interesturine stretch too far south, but on a Randall-map that's almost forgivable.)


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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby orthogon » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:02 pm UTC

What's with the title? A normal native speaker would say "Map of Britain". Was he trying to avoid the whole England/Britain/UK minefield?

I say again, did he accidentally invent real place names? The real Cadbury is pretty small, but Braintree, Essex is a place I was well aware of. I could imagine somebody not realising that Cardigan and Paisley were places after which the eponymous clothing and pattern were named. But Braintree seems to me to have too much entropy to have been created by accident. Which makes me wonder whether the misplacing is supposed to be part of the joke, or what.
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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby adaviel » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:10 pm UTC

Perhaps this is Randall's revenge for these Buzzfeed maps of US states

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby DanD » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:33 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:What's with the title? A normal native speaker would say "Map of Britain". Was he trying to avoid the whole England/Britain/UK minefield?

I say again, did he accidentally invent real place names? The real Cadbury is pretty small, but Braintree, Essex is a place I was well aware of. I could imagine somebody not realising that Cardigan and Paisley were places after which the eponymous clothing and pattern were named. But Braintree seems to me to have too much entropy to have been created by accident. Which makes me wonder whether the misplacing is supposed to be part of the joke, or what.


One potential source is US place names. Massachusetts has both a Braintree and an Essex, near the coast (We also have a middlesex, which is indeed west of Essex, but no Sussex or Wessex or Norsex). Of course we also have a Norfolk (county) that is south of Suffolk. Knowing the settlement pattern of the area makes it likely that these are names pulled from Britain, but without providing any clue exactly where.

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby Whitekiboko » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:46 pm UTC

DanD wrote:Of course we also have a Norfolk (county) that is south of Suffolk.


In VA, Suffolk is at least directly southwest of Norfolk (both cities).

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Re: 1759: "British Map"

Postby eigenvictor » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:52 pm UTC

Cumberbatch seems to be located where Bletchley is, probably in reference to the Imitation Games that takes place at Bletchley Park and stars Benedict Cumberbatch


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