1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

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1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby The Synologist » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:35 pm UTC

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Title-text: You can apply special translucent films to your windows to help keep birds/Superman from accidentally flying into them.

Even though I know it's a myth/misconception, I still wish all three of them had checkboxes for "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" just because the idea of planes releasing their waste and it freezing as it falls is so well ingrained in society :P

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Reka » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:37 pm UTC

I beg to differ about the carrying people part: the eagles carried people in both LotR and The Hobbit.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby jello34543 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:42 pm UTC

I was going to take issue with "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" being no for planes, but the wikipedia article for blue ice says planes can't do so deliberately, and I'm not going to go searching for a more authoritative source at work.

Also, TIL that you can poop a 727 out of the sky. Granted, you would be on it, so this may not be the ideal plan for "greatest practical joke ever"
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Netreker0 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:44 pm UTC

If you think a bird can't take a punch, you clearly haven't spent time in Australia.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby ManaUser » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:45 pm UTC

So I'm wondering about this anti-bird/superman window film. Is it designed to be UV and X-Ray vision or something?

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby richP » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:52 pm UTC

Solar Impulse 2 anyone?

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby BrianB » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:53 pm UTC

jello34543 wrote:I was going to take issue with "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" being no for planes, but the wikipedia article for blue ice says planes can't do so deliberately, <snip>


There are many news reports that suggest otherwise, for example: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/07/woman-fin ... d-6366894/ and http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... ging-homes

Wikipedia is never a primary source...

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby jello34543 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:58 pm UTC

BrianB wrote:
jello34543 wrote:I was going to take issue with "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" being no for planes, but the wikipedia article for blue ice says planes can't do so deliberately, <snip>


There are many news reports that suggest otherwise, for example: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/07/woman-fin ... d-6366894/ and http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... ging-homes

Wikipedia is never a primary source...


The key is "intentionally". The wikipedia article acknowledges that they sometimes leak, and both your references call them leaks, not intentional discharge.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Pied typer » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:04 pm UTC

Wait, you mean that planes aren't propelled by flapping?
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby speising » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:11 pm UTC

Please, tell me that supes pooping mid flight is canon.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby tobiasly » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:11 pm UTC

jello34543 wrote:
BrianB wrote:
jello34543 wrote:I was going to take issue with "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" being no for planes, but the wikipedia article for blue ice says planes can't do so deliberately, <snip>


There are many news reports that suggest otherwise, for example: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/07/woman-fin ... d-6366894/ and http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... ging-homes

Wikipedia is never a primary source...


The key is "intentionally". The wikipedia article acknowledges that they sometimes leak, and both your references call them leaks, not intentional discharge.


In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly. In the words of Han Solo, those may be "special modifications" :D

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/get-your-poop-together-airlines-to-pay-fine-if-planes-drop-human-waste-during-flight/story-NzqgJyTNzrNMdkfFDyK24J.html

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby gmalivuk » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:21 pm UTC

tobiasly wrote:In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly.
In the US, they blocked entry from a bunch of countries because "terrorism", despite the fact that no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby XopherHintz » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:42 pm UTC

I want to throw this in regarding sunbathing to regain flight capability:

wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Impulse Yeah, I know it's just Wikipedia, but please read the rules thread, as you have clearly not already done so. Your three posts in a row attest to that as well -ST

I came here to point out the poop one (as an aircraft mechanic, I can attest that Han's "special modifications" quite certainly are a possibility. I didn't catch the LotR/Hobbit eagles. Good call, guys.

WTH, Randall? No coffee today?

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I initially clicked the "!" button, which turned out to be a "report this post" link, and before I backed out I thought, "there needs to be a dropdown for: 'REPORT THIS POST AS: AWESOME!' "

Lol Aussie birds, another good catch. I think Randall's hung over this morning.


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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby da Doctah » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:47 pm UTC

speising wrote:Please, tell me that supes pooping mid flight is canon.

Only under the influence of brown kryptonite.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby orthogon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:49 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:In the US, they blocked entry from a bunch of countries because "terrorism", despite the fact that no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack.


Ah, this must be the famous "singular they", right? Kind of appropriate for somebody who refers to himself in the third person, I suppose.
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:54 pm UTC

What I want to know about is the birds-sunbathing-to-regain-their-flight-ability thing. Are there some cold-blooded birds I'm not familiar with?
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby speising » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:57 pm UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:What I want to know about is the birds-sunbathing-to-regain-their-flight-ability thing. Are there some cold-blooded birds I'm not familiar with?

I could imagine wet bird need to dry in the sun before they can fly again.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby sonar1313 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:59 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
tobiasly wrote:In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly.
In the US, they blocked entry from a bunch of countries because "terrorism", despite the fact that no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack.

Don't assume that all laws are based on reasonable assumptions.


I'm going to self-flagellate when I'm done with this for helping immediately veer the discussion towards politics, but Libyans killed mostly Americans on Pan Am 103 (bound for New York); of the various people thought to be the mastermind behind the USS Cole attack, all are Yemeni, and the attack is believed to be backed by the Sudanese government; the Benghazi attack happened in, uh, Benghazi, Libya.

Disclaimer is that I make no political judgments either way with this post. But facts are facts.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby HES » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:05 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:Ah, this must be the famous "singular they", right? Kind of appropriate for somebody who refers to himself in the third person, I suppose.

He isn't going to airports to personally detain people.
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby FishDawg » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:19 pm UTC

How do we know superman doesn't use magnetic navigation?

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:56 pm UTC

speising wrote:
Steve the Pocket wrote:What I want to know about is the birds-sunbathing-to-regain-their-flight-ability thing. Are there some cold-blooded birds I'm not familiar with?

I could imagine wet bird need to dry in the sun before they can fly again.

Cormarants adopt a wing-drying pose, often, or so consensus is.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Plasma Mongoose » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:41 pm UTC

Netreker0 wrote:If you think a bird can't take a punch, you clearly haven't spent time in Australia.


If there was a category for "Capable of killing lots of people at a time", only planes and Superman will get tics as even the infamous Australian murder-bird AKA cassowary can only kill one person at a time.
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby sotanaht » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:36 pm UTC

Plasma Mongoose wrote:
Netreker0 wrote:If you think a bird can't take a punch, you clearly haven't spent time in Australia.


If there was a category for "Capable of killing lots of people at a time", only planes and Superman will get tics as even the infamous Australian murder-bird AKA cassowary can only kill one person at a time.


Birds can occasionally kill multiple people at a time by taking down planes.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:45 pm UTC

Also potentially by bridging HxNy to human rural populations...

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Squashua » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:52 pm UTC

Regarding the comic topic (0:05 in the video) and the alt-text (1:01 in the video), it looks like Randall was inspired by the latest trailer for Powerless.

"Powerless" trailer with Starro

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Quizatzhaderac » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:11 pm UTC

So not once in upteen decades has superman been attacked by some kind of alien hyper cat?

We clearly need a Homestuck/Superman cross over wherein the Condence makes gcat attack Sups.
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby somitomi » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:13 pm UTC

sotanaht wrote:
Plasma Mongoose wrote:
Netreker0 wrote:If you think a bird can't take a punch, you clearly haven't spent time in Australia.


If there was a category for "Capable of killing lots of people at a time", only planes and Superman will get tics as even the infamous Australian murder-bird AKA cassowary can only kill one person at a time.


Birds can occasionally kill multiple people at a time by taking down planes.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby wolf99 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:22 pm UTC

Can't believe no-one has mentioned the planes having occasional mid-air sex thing yet!? I mean Is this how 747s make 727s? Do planes get cloud burn in their landing gear joints? Do some cry off due to headaches or fuselage washing needs? Was the golden age of travel the real summer of love? What if a plane can't see another when it's in the mood, does it indulge in a bit of cloud glazing for self-love inspiration? Is... O.M.G., is that what turbulence is?!?!

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby HES » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:31 pm UTC

wolf99 wrote:Can't believe no-one has mentioned the planes having occasional mid-air sex thing yet!?

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby wolf99 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:41 pm UTC

HES wrote:
wolf99 wrote:Can't believe no-one has mentioned the planes having occasional mid-air sex thing yet!?

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:04 pm UTC

Fanart of some extreme plane orgy action...

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby wolf99 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:53 pm UTC

Soupspoon wrote:Fanart of some extreme plane orgy action...


Yay, the Avro Vulcan! Got a look around one at the air museum in Coventry a couple years ago - now it was so tight inside that that was a hot and steamy moment! Those ladies took a big load.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Mikeski » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:51 am UTC

Netreker0 wrote:If you think a bird can't take a punch, you clearly haven't spent time in Australia.

I hit a Canada goose with a line-drive golf ball once. (His fault for sitting on the edge of a water hazard when I was golfing; he really should have known.) Square in the middle of his back. Didn't flinch, didn't stand up, didn't unfurl his wings... just turned his head around a second or two later to see what was going on. Feathers are armor, especially on waterfowl.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Morfos » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:56 am UTC

ManaUser wrote:So I'm wondering about this anti-bird/superman window film. Is it designed to be UV and X-Ray vision or something?


Lead. So he can't see the wall of kryptonite behind it.

Though in all fairness, if Superman wants to fly through a window, he's gonna fly through the window.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Copper Bezel » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 am UTC

wolf99 wrote:Can't believe no-one has mentioned the planes having occasional mid-air sex thing yet!? I mean Is this how 747s make 727s? Do planes get cloud burn in their landing gear joints? Do some cry off due to headaches or fuselage washing needs? Was the golden age of travel the real summer of love? What if a plane can't see another when it's in the mood, does it indulge in a bit of cloud glazing for self-love inspiration? Is... O.M.G., is that what turbulence is?!?!

The pedestrian answer is that the chart only implies each of these things is sometimes involved in midair sex, not necessarily that it's an active participant, and for planes that most probably refers to occupants.
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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby jc » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:28 am UTC

sonar1313 wrote:
gmalivuk wrote:
tobiasly wrote:In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly.
In the US, they blocked entry from a bunch of countries because "terrorism", despite the fact that no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack. ...


I'm going to self-flagellate when I'm done with this for helping immediately veer the discussion towards politics, but Libyans killed mostly Americans on Pan Am 103 (bound for New York); of the various people thought to be the mastermind behind the USS Cole attack, all are Yemeni, and the attack is believed to be backed by the Sudanese government; the Benghazi attack happened in, uh, Benghazi, Libya.

Disclaimer is that I make no political judgments either way with this post. But facts are facts.


Yeah, but the first claim wasn't quite accurate. It's only part of a claim that has been popping up here in the US, that "... no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack inside the US. The incidents mentioned above all occurred outside of US territory.

The fun part of this is the obvious inference: For real safety from terrorists, the US government should invite all (potential) terrorists to come to the US. Maybe even pay for their trip, and give them a big welcoming party. Once here, they'll no longer be capable of committing terrorist acts. At least not against US citizens,that is; they could still possibly engage in hunting down non-citizens and attacking them.

Somehow, I'm sorta doubtful that our new crop of rulers will figure this out, so they'll continue trying to exclude terrorists, making life dangerous for US citizens outside the US for whatever reasons.

Doing this would also not prevent terrorist attacks inside the US from US citizens, which has happened a few times in recent years. And it's not obvious how we deal with terrorists from countries that are officially the US's friends, like Saudi Arabia or Egypt. ;-) It has been pointed out that the middle-eastern countries that are not on the banned list right now are the countries where Donald Trump has business operations. This presents another reasonable inference: The terrorists from those countries are actually the result of Trump's business practices over there. If you look for interviews with people who've done business with Trump, you learn that they all have good reasons for wanting revenge.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby RogueCynic » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:14 am UTC

Maybe this house should have some sort of translucent film on its windows.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Netreker0 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:31 am UTC

tobiasly wrote:
jello34543 wrote:
BrianB wrote:
jello34543 wrote:I was going to take issue with "Capable of intentionally releasing poop mid-flight" being no for planes, but the wikipedia article for blue ice says planes can't do so deliberately, <snip>


There are many news reports that suggest otherwise, for example: http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/07/woman-fin ... d-6366894/ and http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... ging-homes

Wikipedia is never a primary source...


The key is "intentionally". The wikipedia article acknowledges that they sometimes leak, and both your references call them leaks, not intentional discharge.


In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly. In the words of Han Solo, those may be "special modifications" :D

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/get-your-poop-together-airlines-to-pay-fine-if-planes-drop-human-waste-during-flight/story-NzqgJyTNzrNMdkfFDyK24J.html


The linked article doesn't state that the law fined planes which "intentionally" dump their waste--you're the one who keeps adding that word. If you have an additional source of information that justifies your assertion that the law targets "intentional" dumping, please post it.

Many laws don't require intent, which in legal terms means "I will deliberate dump crap from my plane." Some laws are strict liability, meaning that you're responsible as long as the bad thing happens. In reasonable countries, this is usually only done in cases where you're the person primarily responsible for preventing some harm, and the government doesn't want that harm to happen, but it also doesn't want to force you to follow some general set of rules that might not apply to your individual case. For example, pet owners are strictly liable if their pets attack someone. In some cities, there are also leash laws or laws about keeping pets inside fences or indoors, but in a lot of other places, the only law is that your pet can't hurt someone. The government trusts you to use your best judgment to determine what steps are needed for your particular pet, and if your decisions are wrong, then that's on you.

In between, there are a few states of mind that pretty much mean that you didn't have a specific goal to dump crap on people, but you knew that there was a risk of it happening, and you didn't take reasonable steps to prevent it. The article didn't provide any concrete information, but based on the description and the fact that it's a fine, my guess is that the law falls somewhere in that area: India doesn't think anyone is deliberately dumping crap over a crowded city, but it's happening so much that clearly they're cutting corners when it comes to whatever it is you need to do to prevent a poop rain.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Netreker0 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:58 am UTC

sonar1313 wrote:
gmalivuk wrote:
tobiasly wrote:In India, they created a fine for planes which intentionally dump their waste, which I doubt they would have bothered to do if it weren't possible and didn't happen regularly.
In the US, they blocked entry from a bunch of countries because "terrorism", despite the fact that no one from those countries has ever killed any American citizen in any kind of terrorist attack.

Don't assume that all laws are based on reasonable assumptions.


I'm going to self-flagellate when I'm done with this for helping immediately veer the discussion towards politics, but Libyans killed mostly Americans on Pan Am 103 (bound for New York); of the various people thought to be the mastermind behind the USS Cole attack, all are Yemeni, and the attack is believed to be backed by the Sudanese government; the Benghazi attack happened in, uh, Benghazi, Libya.

Disclaimer is that I make no political judgments either way with this post. But facts are facts.


These are attacks that happened outside of American soil, with the exception of the Libyan embassy attack. Stricter immigration policies wouldn't have helped to prevent terrorist attacks outside of American soil. Despite the attack being on American soil, immigration reform also wouldn't have changed anything with respect to Benghazi (I hope you don't need a citation for this one.)

I'm not going to make any arguments as to the reasonableness of the countries on this list or of the specific steps taken against the countries on this list. I will say that in terms of the historical record of attacks within the U.S., if we're constructing a list of countries that need extra vetting, we're leaving some important countries off the list. The big terrorist attack that started all this was done by Saudi nationals, and if I've been counting correctly, they've got more victims than all the other attacks combined. In fact, even if you add in attacks that didn't take place on U.S. soil, the 9-11 bombers are still the Yankees of terrorism against Americans. A close second place is Pakistan. Not only are these countries somehow exempt from scrutiny, IIRC they both have visa exempt status. In terms of terrorism abroad--including the countries that are on the ban list--Saudi nationals and Saudi oil money has been supporting radicalizing Islamic schools and terrorist activities for decades. While I don't believe the Saudi government is complicit, they've absolutely know this is going on and have done next to nothing to stop it.


Also, if you're really concerned about attacks like the U.S.S. Cole bombing, you should lobby for a real replacement or a substantial refit for the Arleigh Burke class destroyer. I don't recall if people in this forum in particular were like this, but I find that a lot of sciencey type people and military nerds were way too enamored with the Zumwalt prototype destroyer.

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Re: 1792: "Bird/Plane/Superman"

Postby Wee Red Bird » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:59 am UTC

Does Superman crap on cars too?
I prefer it when they are freshly washed. Add a little something to the sparkle.


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