1823: "Hottest Editors"

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1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby suso » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:35 pm UTC

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Alt text: "Elon Musk finally blocked me from the internal Tesla repository because I wouldn't stop sending pull requests for my code supporting steering via vim keybindings."

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Shelgeyr » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:52 pm UTC

Aww, man.
Appears I'm stuck in 2010 :(

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Mutex » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:55 pm UTC

I'm simultaneously stuck in 2005 and 2015.

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Postby cellocgw » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:56 pm UTC

But which ones support touch-screen? :twisted:
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby SuicideJunkie » Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:58 pm UTC

Shelgeyr wrote:Aww, man.
Appears I'm stuck in 2010 :(

Don't worry, it is cyclical.

Around 2040, thanks to the refinement of genetic libraries, you will be able to use NewtPad++

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby azule » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:00 pm UTC

I used to use EditPlus. Maybe it wasn't the best (regular expressions were lacking) but it was so easy and useful.

Sublime is good/ok. I couldn't get started with Atom.

I've only dabbled in vim. Really I just don't know about it.
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby codebracker » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:09 pm UTC

I feel obliged to point out that CRISPR isn't an editor, CAS9 is.
CRISPR is basically a description of a location it attaches to, so it's kinda like a .txt rather than notepad

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Bratmon » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:15 pm UTC

I am offended by 2005.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Plutarch » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:34 pm UTC

One swift visit to explainxkcd.com later, I'd say this is a good comic.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby pogrmman » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:04 pm UTC

I'm stuck in 2010 with a smattering of 1995-2000.

Emacs is better than vim by the way, though I like Notepad ++ too.

I've never tried sublime, but you have to pay for it?! Screw that. I'm not serious enough to buy a text editor.

It'll be interesting to see how CAS9 works out in reality. I'm excited to see it.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby BlitzGirl » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:07 pm UTC

As someone interested in publication (books/newspapers/magazines), my mind went in an entirely different direction upon seeing this one's title.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby flicky1991 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:12 pm UTC

BlitzGirl wrote:As someone interested in publication (books/newspapers/magazines), my mind went in an entirely different direction upon seeing this one's title.
Similarly, my mind went to:
xkcdb wrote:

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<thefiddler> Holy sonofabitch.
<thefiddler> I think my editor is flirting with me.
* thefiddler frowns
<Uhmerwell> ...Notepad?
<thefiddler> Errr.
<Uhmerwell> oh, you mean a human
<Uhmerwell> don't you :<
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Steve the Pocket » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:52 pm UTC

Back in college, most of my programming classes were in Ubuntu because it had all the compilers and interpreters built-in, as well as the ability to run fake websites via localhost, so I got accustomed to coding in gedit. My understanding is that Notepad++ is just a cross-platform version of that, pretty much? And that people who still use Vim or Emacs have no patience for anything GUI-based or that requires holding down Ctrl and insist on switching between typing and one-key shortcuts. So I'm not sure how exactly Notepad++ managed to overtake them. Is it just a generational shift where people old enough to prefer the text-mode editors just got outnumbered?
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Flumble » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:43 pm UTC

Isn't 2015 a bit late for sublime text being 'the hottest'?


flicky1991 wrote:
xkcdb wrote:

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<thefiddler> Holy sonofabitch.
<thefiddler> I think my editor is flirting with me.
* thefiddler frowns
<Uhmerwell> ...Notepad?
<thefiddler> Errr.
<Uhmerwell> oh, you mean a human
<Uhmerwell> don't you :<

Haha, nice one. :D

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby hetas » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:56 pm UTC

For me the main thing for using Vim is that I don't have to move my arm to cursor keys all the time while coding. It's not about speed, I just think it's easier for my arms because I don't have to hover them over the keyboard all the time.

While coding I tend to move the cursor around a lot going back and worth and up and down doing little edits.

I like the shortcuts, quick way to create little temporary macros and the search bar too. These you can do in other editors too but I'm used to the Vim way. If it's not available I'll use some other editor.

I use Vim on Linux and on Windows and I have VsVim installed on Visual Studio.

CRISPR I don't think I'll ever try even if it had Vim bindings. Then again you'll never know...

Edit: And I do think Visual Studio is the best IDE there is so I don't mind gui-editors.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby gasstationwithoutpumps » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:28 pm UTC

The emacs/vi wars started in 1976, when the two editors were first introduced (I used both in those days, and emacs was clearly superior). I still use emacs, though it has gotten incredibly bloated in the past 40 years.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Laeraren » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:38 pm UTC

sublime > notepad++


yeah i'm out

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby teelo » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:47 pm UTC

I was expecting to see the name of a hot chick whose job is editor of a news outlet.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Eternal Density » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:52 pm UTC

I never even noticed the pun!
Used to use n++ all the time in my Windows days. Never got into Sublime though. Don't like the feel.
I've tried vim a bit but haven't got the hang of it yet.
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Keyman » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:13 pm UTC

teelo wrote:I was expecting to see the name of a hot chick whose job is editor of a news outlet.
I was going to make a joke along those lines...since I'm totally out of my depth in actual editing discussions.
I googled "Hottest editor" (xkcd is first, btw).
Found a link to "hottest editor-approved dresses".
There was this one that looked yellow and gold....

so I ran away screaming.
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby peterdavidcarter » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:48 pm UTC

a: this is the worst, most obnoxious troll I've ever seen
b: Sublime Text lmfao
c: people actually genuinely don't understand Vim, even now

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby peterdavidcarter » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:58 pm UTC

p.s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR with Vim keybindings... think about it...

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Soupspoon » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:01 pm UTC

Vim:
Spoiler:
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Emacs:
Spoiler:
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby peterdavidcarter » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:06 pm UTC

p.p.s I love how mental Explain XKCD got with this post

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby peterdavidcarter » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:06 pm UTC

@Soupspoon what's your keybinding on that meme series?

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby OP Tipping » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:05 am UTC

So is it just me that uses gedit?

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Copper Bezel » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:19 am UTC

I use it because I'm not a developer. = P I'm sure there's lots of good stuff in there, but without smart line wrapping....
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby azule » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:52 am UTC

OP Tipping wrote:So is it just me that uses gedit?

That's more like notepad than Notepad++. I have used it but replacements are desired.
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Postby Pfhorrest » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:04 am UTC

BBEdit (Lite) -> TextWrangler
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Postby Old Bruce » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:08 am UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:BBEdit (Lite) -> TextWrangler

BBEdit has the best Search and Destroy... er Find and Replace feature.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby sfmans » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:41 am UTC

Been meaning to try Sublime Text for a while & was reminded by this.

Ew.

Uninstall.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Flumble » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:05 pm UTC

OP Tipping wrote:So is it just me that uses gedit?

If I happen to be on a (random) debianesk system and have to edit a couple of files, I'll probably use gedit. Well, unless there's already a terminal pointing at the right folder, then I'll use nano.

But I'm mostly on windows, so my options are Atom, Sublime, VSCode and Brackets, which are pretty much equally superior to notepad++. My 4-sided coin landed on Code, so that's my new favourite.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby orthogon » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:29 pm UTC

Personally I never got what was so good about Notepad++. I mean, it's ok, but for a long time it didn't support multiple windows (perhaps it still doesn't) and the default behaviour to open every file you've ever touched on startup is a bit annoying. Basically there's a clue in the name: it set itself up as an improvement on Notepad, which is pretty much an open goal. I use it mainly because it has the fantastically advanced functionality of being able to interpret Unix line endings. </troll>
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby flicky1991 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:32 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:the default behaviour to open every file you've ever touched on startup is a bit annoying

Only until you close the file.
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby speising » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:36 pm UTC

What made me really mad about N++ is that by default, it doesn't warn you if you close it with a changed document open that is still unsaved. Of course, it will open it on its next start again, with your edits.
But that doesn't help you a lot if you expect those scripts you just wrote to work.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Copper Bezel » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:06 pm UTC

Flumble wrote:If I happen to be on a (random) debianesk system and have to edit a couple of files, I'll probably use gedit. Well, unless there's already a terminal pointing at the right folder, then I'll use nano.

But I'm mostly on windows, so my options are Atom, Sublime, VSCode and Brackets, which are pretty much equally superior to notepad++.

To be clear, since there always seems to be a lucky-10,000-aire on this, gedit is also available on Windows, but I can see why it wouldn't place in this ranking!
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Liri » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:33 pm UTC

The CRISPR/Cas9 system is still hugely error-prone. All of the papers I've read that have used it have just used it to develop gene knockouts. It's still really cool, but its current application in research is often better achieved, especially in certain cell types, by using various RNAi methods (shRNA and siRNA [short hairpin and small interfering]).

Using it to insert gfp into your eyes is still a ways off.
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Copper Bezel » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:41 pm UTC

What about inserting grep into your eyes?
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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby pogrmman » Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:49 pm UTC

hetas wrote:For me the main thing for using Vim is that I don't have to move my arm to cursor keys all the time while coding. It's not about speed, I just think it's easier for my arms because I don't have to hover them over the keyboard all the time.

While coding I tend to move the cursor around a lot going back and worth and up and down doing little edits.

I like the shortcuts, quick way to create little temporary macros and the search bar too. These you can do in other editors too but I'm used to the Vim way. If it's not available I'll use some other editor.

I use Vim on Linux and on Windows and I have VsVim installed on Visual Studio.

CRISPR I don't think I'll ever try even if it had Vim bindings. Then again you'll never know...

Edit: And I do think Visual Studio is the best IDE there is so I don't mind gui-editors.



It's the same with me and emacs. It takes so much time to go to the mouse or the arrow keys. Granted, the default emacs key bindings are absolute shit, but I very much like it once it's customized.

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Re: 1823: "Hottest Editors"

Postby Soupspoon » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:13 pm UTC

Copper Bezel wrote:What about inserting grep into your eyes?

Force grep, then let it stand... you get WINE...


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