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1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:10 pm UTC
by squall_line
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Title-text: "It's hard to train deep learning algorithms when most of the positive feedback they get is sarcastic."

"Being too cool to care about stuff" is one of the less redeeming traits of some groups of people. Doing things for the sake of being intentionally ironic is another.

But I won't use the "h" word here. I don't want to give the movement more credit than I think it deserves...

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:23 pm UTC
by Flumble
squall_line wrote:But I won't use the "h" word here. I don't want to give the movement more credit than I think it deserves...

Which "h word" could you possibly mean though? :roll:
Hitler had some less redeeming qualities, but I think none was "being too cool for something" or "being intentionally ironic". (BAM! Godwin! You can close the thread now.)

I'm never too cool for anything, only ever too apathetic. Most computers can beat that easily though.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:26 pm UTC
by ucim
I'm not going to bother to post here - I'm too cool to care about stuff like that.

Jose

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:37 pm UTC
by Weeks
squall_line wrote:Image

Title-text: "It's hard to train deep learning algorithms when most of the positive feedback they get is sarcastic."

"Being too cool to care about stuff" is one of the less redeeming traits of some groups of people. Doing things for the sake of being intentionally ironic is another.

But I won't use the "h" word here. I don't want to give the movement more credit than I think it deserves...
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Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:42 pm UTC
by speising
Meh.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:53 pm UTC
by Zinho
Weeks wrote:
squall_line wrote:Image

Title-text: "It's hard to train deep learning algorithms when most of the positive feedback they get is sarcastic."

"Being too cool to care about stuff" is one of the less redeeming traits of some groups of people. Doing things for the sake of being intentionally ironic is another.

But I won't use the "h" word here. I don't want to give the movement more credit than I think it deserves...
Spoiler:
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Whatever, I've been shunning popular trends since long before hipsters took it mainstream. Eventually the fad will die down and I can go back to being counterculture without worrying about being associated with millennial posers. 8-) I do like wearing their glasses style ironically, though...

:P

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:58 pm UTC
by Pfhorrest
The difference between me and a hipster is like the difference between a bullshitter and a liar. Hipsters care about what's popular, so that they can intentionally do the opposite of it. I don't give a fuck whether what I'm into is popular or not. If it happens to be, then hey, good on everyone else for having good taste for once. If not, that's their loss, not mine.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:03 pm UTC
by Heimhenge
This comic caused me to speculate about what game AI really would solve next. I knew about chess and Go. Decided poker would surely be tough for AI w/o utilizing the "reads" and "bluffs" component of the game. I was wrong. Searched for AI + poker and found this:

http://www.pokerlistings.com/libratus-p ... -end-42839

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:06 pm UTC
by Mutex
Pfhorrest wrote:The difference between me and a hipster is like the difference between a bullshitter and a liar. Hipsters care about what's popular, so that they can intentionally do the opposite of it. I don't give a fuck whether what I'm into is popular or not. If it happens to be, then hey, good on everyone else for having good taste for once. If not, that's their loss, not mine.

It's like when contrarians confuse believing the opposite of received wisdom makes them free thinkers. No, your beliefs are still determined by what everyone else thinks. They're just even less likely to be accurate.

I mean, it's a bit like that anyway.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:07 pm UTC
by Weeks
Alright everyone. Sit down. I didn't want to do this, but I will.

I.
Am.
The.
Coolest.

Yeah you know me. I literally (both metaphorically and not) do not Capital C Care. I am *the* most apathetic motherfucker on Earth. Laugh out loud. I *could not* care less. I care less than anyone in this thread. I care so little I could, like, die. Guys, check this out: I give no fucks. At all. None. I don't "give a shit", as it were. Like, fuck you. Yeah I fucking said it motherfucker, and I hope to God you care cause I just don't. Heh. Maybe you don't care either. Well news flash pal, I care LESS. You got that you fucking bitch? You don't hold a candle to my carelessness. Yeah. Fuck.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:14 pm UTC
by petercooperjr
Heimhenge wrote:This comic caused me to speculate about what game AI really would solve next. I knew about chess and Go. Decided poker would surely be tough for AI w/o utilizing the "reads" and "bluffs" component of the game. I was wrong.


According to the Official XKCD List, remaining difficult games include:
  • Mao
  • Seven Minutes in Heaven
  • Calvinball

I'm sure there's a research team working on each of those somewhere

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:32 pm UTC
by Heimhenge
petercooperjr wrote:
According to the Official XKCD List, remaining difficult games include:
  • Mao
  • Seven Minutes in Heaven
  • Calvinball

I'm sure there's a research team working on each of those somewhere


Hadn't seen that one. Noticed that Randall ranked poker as easier than Go. Wondering if he even plays.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:47 pm UTC
by petercooperjr
Heimhenge wrote:Noticed that Randall ranked poker as easier than Go. Wondering if he even plays.

At the time that comic was made over 5 years ago, I believe the general consensus was that Go was expected to be significantly more challenging, due to the huge number of game states. AlphaGo was absolutely shocking when it come out.

Technological progress moves very quickly, and then changes our mental expectations of "normal technology" very quickly as well.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:56 pm UTC
by Locoluis
There's a reason why WP:AB is a thing.

It's when others (apart from your family and friends) appreciate your qualities as a person.
When random people from overseas follow you on social networks and like/repost/quote your posts.
When you're an artist and they buy your art, and they ask you if you're taking commissions.
When you have a webcomic and people talk about it online and buy your merch.
When you're a gamer or an athlete and they invite you to tournaments and competitions.
When you're a scientist and your papers get cited in academia.
When you have a project on GitHub and you're getting issues and pull requests.
When the Wikipedia editors agree that you're notable enough to deserve your own article (though that's not necessarily a good thing).

When you do something and people say: Thank you.

It's about what you create, what you achieve, what you do towards others.

It's not about your own opinion about yourself. Arrogant pricks are NOT cool; even though they may appear to be, their mask will soon shatter away. Sure, it's good to be self-confident, but don't forget that you're human too, that you can fail at times. Those who achieve success in life have failed many times before, have learned from their mistakes and didn't give up because of them.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:01 pm UTC
by trpmb6
I'm a badass. I don't need Wikipedia to tell me as much.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:05 pm UTC
by Weeks
Locoluis wrote:Those who achieve success in life have failed many times before, have learned from their mistakes and didn't give up because of them.
This doesn't include those who got there due to being born into rich families, surrounded by wealth. Having a huge safety net makes it really easy to get back up after you fail.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:33 pm UTC
by qvxb
Computer: From now on, I will display only G-rated pictures.

Human (aka meat machine): Nooooooooooooooo!

This doesn't include those who got there due to being born into rich families, surrounded by wealth. Having a huge safety net makes it really easy to get back up after you fail.


It may not really be a failure. For example, bankruptcy is the sacrifice fly of capitalism.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:24 pm UTC
by rmsgrey
Weeks wrote:Alright everyone. Sit down. I didn't want to do this, but I will.

I.
Am.
The.
Coolest.

Yeah you know me. I literally (both metaphorically and not) do not Capital C Care. I am *the* most apathetic motherfucker on Earth. Laugh out loud. I *could not* care less. I care less than anyone in this thread. I care so little I could, like, die. Guys, check this out: I give no fucks. At all. None. I don't "give a shit", as it were. Like, fuck you. Yeah I fucking said it motherfucker, and I hope to God you care cause I just don't. Heh. Maybe you don't care either. Well news flash pal, I care LESS. You got that you fucking bitch? You don't hold a candle to my carelessness. Yeah. Fuck.


The lady doth protest too much, methinks

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:30 pm UTC
by Flumble
rmsgrey wrote:
Weeks wrote:...
The lady doth protest too much, methinks

O, but she'll keep her word.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:28 pm UTC
by Weeks
rmsgrey wrote:
Weeks wrote:Alright everyone. Sit down. I didn't want to do this, but I will.

I.
Am.
The.
Coolest.

Yeah you know me. I literally (both metaphorically and not) do not Capital C Care. I am *the* most apathetic motherfucker on Earth. Laugh out loud. I *could not* care less. I care less than anyone in this thread. I care so little I could, like, die. Guys, check this out: I give no fucks. At all. None. I don't "give a shit", as it were. Like, fuck you. Yeah I fucking said it motherfucker, and I hope to God you care cause I just don't. Heh. Maybe you don't care either. Well news flash pal, I care LESS. You got that you fucking bitch? You don't hold a candle to my carelessness. Yeah. Fuck.


The lady doth protest too much, methinks
same

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:00 am UTC
by SuicideJunkie
That did measure a 7.0 on the literal fucks given, which in all honesty is an excessive number.
Most people only give a one at a time, and commonly it is only visible under metaphorical illumination.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:15 pm UTC
by netsplit
I know I'm not a hipster because there's this band I like that used be obscure, then one day I heard them in the radio, and was excited that were becoming popular.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:05 pm UTC
by madaco
OK, but,

Computers not only do not care, they have not, as of yet anyway, been /able/ to care.

I don't see how "not caring" would be something that humans surpass computers at.

To the contrary, humans surpass computers at caring.

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:09 am UTC
by xtifr
madaco wrote:
I don't see how "not caring" would be something that humans surpass computers at.

There's a difference between simply not caring and being too cool to care. Computers, as you rightly point out, are excellent at the former, but have a long way to go to master the latter.

(There may be computers which are cool, but that is not yet the reason they don't care.)

Re: 1875: Computers vs Humans

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:49 pm UTC
by somitomi
madaco wrote:OK, but,

Computers not only do not care, they have not, as of yet anyway, been /able/ to care.

I don't see how "not caring" would be something that humans surpass computers at.

To the contrary, humans surpass computers at caring.

Yup, but that's why computers can't be too cool to care. It's like how pigeons are too lazy to fly. I can't be too lazy to fly because I can't fly in the first place, pigeons on the other hand can but they invariably wait until the last possible moment to do it.