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1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby uncleroy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:47 pm UTC

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Hover text: IATA stands for International AirporT Abbreviation.

Notably missing from the comic: FML, WTF, and XXX.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Mutex » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:50 pm UTC

Whenever I fly from London Heathrow (LHR) to Toronto Pearson (YYZ) I always feel Pearson were back of the queue when they were handing out airport abbreviations.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby xaintly » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:51 pm UTC

The actual aiport codes:
(Code in Comic) (Stated location in comic) [Real airport code for that location] > (Real location for the airport code in comic)

AMD Amsterdam [AMS] > Ahmedabad, India
BAE Beijing [PEK or BJS] > Not assigned
ORD Orlando [MCO] > Chicago (O'Hare)
IAD Idaho (Boise) [BOI] > Washington (Dulles)
JFC Jefferson City [No airport] > Not assigned
IUD Washington Dulles [IAD] > Not assigned
FYI Fayettevile [FAY] > Not assigned
LOL Louisville [SDF] > Not assigned
ATL Atalante [Not a real place] > Atlanta
HGM Hogsmeade [Not a real place] > Not assigned
OMW Omaha [OMA] > Not assigned
ANC Ankh-Morpork [Not a real place] > Anchorage
HSV Huntsville > [Correct]
SAN San Diego > [Correct]
SAN San Juan [Puerto Rico- SJU, Argentina- UAQ] > San Diego
SAN San Jose [SJC] > San Diego
SAN San Francisco [SFO] > San Diego
SAN San Antonio [SAT] > San Diego
DWI Delaware International [Not a real airport] > Not assigned
DFW Down for Whatever [Not a real airport] > Dallas (Fort Worth)
DTW Down to Whatever [Not a real airport] > Detroit
TMI Turkmenistan International [Not a real airport] > Not assigned
LAX Las Angalas > Los Angeles
EWR Edwards Air Force Base [EDW] > Newark
PHL Pittsburgh [PIT] > Philadelphia
SWF Sherwood Forest [Not a real airport, London- LHR] > Sacramento Metro
KUL Kingdom of Loathing [Not a real place] > Kuala Lumpur
STL Silent Hill [Not a real place] > St. Louis
BUF Sunnydale [Not a real place] > Buffalo
TBA Tribeca [No airport] > Not assigned
SMH Smithfield [No airport] > Not assigned
BLT Baltimore [BWI] > Blackwater, Australia
YYY Toronto Downtown [Not a real airport] > Mont-Joli, Canada
YYZ Toronto Pearson > [Correct]
MIA Colombo, Sri Lanka [CMB] > Miama
CLT [Censored] > Charlotte
FHQ Fhqwhgads [Not a real place] > Not assigned
FFS Flagstaff Station [Not a real place, Arizona- FLG] > Not assigned
DTF Dartford [No airport] > Not assigned
MDW Midway Atoll [MDY] > Chicago (Midway)
PDX Pordlanx [Not a real place] > Portland
SEA [Indicates Water Landing] > Seattle / Tacoma

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Huindekmi » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:58 pm UTC

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby cct » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:27 pm UTC

Arguably, YTZ could be considered Toronto Downtown. Certainly, that is how the operators want it to be viewed.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby orthogon » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:31 pm UTC

The UK rail network has three-letter codes for all the stations. Looking at the list in the comic, the following codes exist:

ATL: Attleborough
HGM: Higham
ANC: Ancaster
SAN: Sandown
DTW: Droitwich Spa
EWR: East Worthing
STL: Southall
SMH: Stamford Hill
BLT: Blantyre
MIA: Manchester Airport
CLT: Clacton-on-Sea
MDW: Maidstone West
SEA: Seaham

Notice that some airports have their own railway station, but their three-letter codes are not the same as the IATA abbreviation. (MAN is Manchester Piccadilly). Conversely, our corporate air travel provider now offers international rail tickets too, and has invented bogus pseudo-IATA codes for the railway stations. I think London St Pancras International (which is STP in the rail scheme) is QQF or something. The booking site being rather useless, this doesn't actually come up if you search for "flights" from "London". You just have to know.

I do this with currency codes, though I try to pronounce them as words, so that, for example, Swiss Francs are "chuffs".
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:32 pm UTC

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby peewee_RotA » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:52 pm UTC

I don't know why, but I found this one particularly funny and wanted to share it at work... yet it's one of the few with an NSFW joke.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Soupspoon » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:06 pm UTC

"SWF"'s 'real' tag could be DSA ("Doncaster/Sheffield Airport", previously "Robin Hood Airport (Doncaster Sheffield1)", previously "RAF Finningley"…) or NQT ("Nottingham (City) Airport"), or somewhere like Ossington or Gamston airfields (there being half a dozen small landing spots nearly equidistant from Edwinstowe, generally acknowledged to be the centre of the current Sherwood Forest, so much smaller than its historical extents) that may have ICAO ids, but not IATA ones. And that's just the operational ones I can find. There were a multitude of airfields set up in this area (generally to the east, in the flat lands) during WW2 so as to send the air war over to occupied northern Europe and to intercept the air war being sent over here from there. With a bit of digging (I think I once played paintball at a (relatively-)new-growth plantation location very near Edwinstowe that seemed to have concrete aprons in one section reminiscent of an abandoned RAF station) one could probably find something that was practically "RAF Sherwood Forest", if not exactly.

(A quick Google suggests that a Lord Sherwood was a past Honorary Air Commodore to No. 504 Squadron, of the RAF. But they are associated with Rutland and Cambridgeshire/East Northamptonshire (north East Northamptonshire, to be more precise!).)

Just adding to the information above...


1 Or Doncaster Sheffield Rotherham Barnsley or suchlike. There was a Sheffield City Airport (SZD), far nearer to Loxley (as in "Robin of", but still not next door) that effectively shut down fifteen years ago due to operational losses (and, possibly not coincidentally, having been passed to the company that was starting up the Robin Hood airport scheme), and Doncaster/etc airport basically serves the area like SZD never did manage to do. For one thing, it's not on an awkward hilly area, and it's not so far from several major road arteries.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby cellocgw » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:20 pm UTC

xaintly wrote:The actual aiport codes:
(Code in Comic) (Stated location in comic) [Real airport code for that location] > (Real location for the airport code in comic)
Spoiler:
AMD Amsterdam [AMS] > Ahmedabad, India
BAE Beijing [PEK or BJS] > Not assigned
ORD Orlando [MCO] > Chicago (O'Hare)
IAD Idaho (Boise) [BOI] > Washington (Dulles)
JFC Jefferson City [No airport] > Not assigned
IUD Washington Dulles [IAD] > Not assigned
FYI Fayettevile [FAY] > Not assigned
LOL Louisville [SDF] > Not assigned
ATL Atalante [Not a real place] > Atlanta
HGM Hogsmeade [Not a real place] > Not assigned
OMW Omaha [OMA] > Not assigned
ANC Ankh-Morpork [Not a real place] > Anchorage
HSV Huntsville > [Correct]
SAN San Diego > [Correct]
SAN San Juan [Puerto Rico- SJU, Argentina- UAQ] > San Diego
SAN San Jose [SJC] > San Diego
SAN San Francisco [SFO] > San Diego
SAN San Antonio [SAT] > San Diego
DWI Delaware International [Not a real airport] > Not assigned
DFW Down for Whatever [Not a real airport] > Dallas (Fort Worth)
DTW Down to Whatever [Not a real airport] > Detroit
TMI Turkmenistan International [Not a real airport] > Not assigned
LAX Las Angalas > Los Angeles
EWR Edwards Air Force Base [EDW] > Newark
PHL Pittsburgh [PIT] > Philadelphia
SWF Sherwood Forest [Not a real airport, London- LHR] > Sacramento Metro
KUL Kingdom of Loathing [Not a real place] > Kuala Lumpur
STL Silent Hill [Not a real place] > St. Louis
BUF Sunnydale [Not a real place] > Buffalo
TBA Tribeca [No airport] > Not assigned
SMH Smithfield [No airport] > Not assigned
BLT Baltimore [BWI] > Blackwater, Australia
YYY Toronto Downtown [Not a real airport] > Mont-Joli, Canada
YYZ Toronto Pearson > [Correct]
MIA Colombo, Sri Lanka [CMB] > Miama
CLT [Censored] > Charlotte
FHQ Fhqwhgads [Not a real place] > Not assigned
FFS Flagstaff Station [Not a real place, Arizona- FLG] > Not assigned
DTF Dartford [No airport] > Not assigned
MDW Midway Atoll [MDY] > Chicago (Midway)
PDX Pordlanx [Not a real place] > Portland
SEA [Indicates Water Landing] > Seattle / Tacoma



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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Jorpho » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:59 pm UTC

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby MrT2 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:38 pm UTC

xaintly wrote:SWF Sherwood Forest [Not a real airport, London- LHR] > Sacramento Metro

Robin Hood Airport (sadly now renamed to Doncaster Sheffield Airport, Yorkshire) [DSA] is not far from Sherwood Forest.

Having played (or simmed) Flight Sim of various guises through the years though I'm more familiar with the ICAO four letter codes for various airports, which outside of the USA pretty much bear no relation to the IATA codes (many US airports it's just the IATA code with a K prefix, but this is not true for all of them), and also let you identify where the airport is (e.g. first letter K - United States, or first two letters EG - United Kingdom & dependencies).

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Keyman » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:14 pm UTC

ANC Ankh-Morpork [Not a real place] > Anchorage

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:52 pm UTC

Something in viewtopic.php?p=4289998#p4289974 seems to be breaking formatting on this page.
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby HES » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:17 pm UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:Something in viewtopic.php?p=4289998#p4289974 seems to be breaking formatting on this page.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby ObsessoMom » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:23 pm UTC

Once again, Explain xkcd to the rescue!

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby DpEpsilon » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:51 pm UTC

xaintly wrote:SMH Smithfield [No airport] > Not assigned


Just as well. "SMH" abbreviating an airport, "Shake My Head", and "Sydney Morning Herald" is pretty darn confusing, as if the overloading of the latter two wasn't confusing enough.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Muzhik » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:18 am UTC

You missed one of the classic factual airport abbreviations:

SUX = Sioux City (Iowa) :D

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby whomever1 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:03 am UTC

I spend a lot of time in the Kingdom of Loathing--who says it's not a real place? My Disco Bandit is level 19!
Also--just for the meaniehead of it--my home airport is LBG.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Ranbot » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:37 am UTC

Nice comic... I chuckled.

I'll bet some fun could have been had with Frankfurt/FRA... references to hot dogs or FRAnce come to mind.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby RogueCynic » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:20 am UTC

orthogon wrote:The UK rail network has three-letter codes for all the stations. Looking at the list in the comic, the following codes exist:

ATL: Attleborough
HGM: Higham
ANC: Ancaster
SAN: Sandown
DTW: Droitwich Spa
EWR: East Worthing
STL: Southall
SMH: Stamford Hill
BLT: Blantyre
MIA: Manchester Airport
CLT: Clacton-on-Sea
MDW: Maidstone West
SEA: Seaham

Notice that some airports have their own railway station, but their three-letter codes are not the same as the IATA abbreviation. (MAN is Manchester Piccadilly). Conversely, our corporate air travel provider now offers international rail tickets too, and has invented bogus pseudo-IATA codes for the railway stations. I think London St Pancras International (which is STP in the rail scheme) is QQF or something. The booking site being rather useless, this doesn't actually come up if you search for "flights" from "London". You just have to know.

I do this with currency codes, though I try to pronounce them as words, so that, for example, Swiss Francs are "chuffs".


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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby water_moon » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:54 am UTC

whomever1 wrote:I spend a lot of time in the Kingdom of Loathing--who says it's not a real place? My Disco Bandit is level 19!


It must be a place, you can be west of it, furthermore it's had an Elemental International Airport for over 3 years! It does not however have a IATA code. Not too sure what EIA is.... but I was wondering why it wasn't KOL and now I know.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby da Doctah » Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:52 am UTC

That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Mikeski » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:18 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

Is that some sort of weighted average, or minimum population per city, or something?

San Jose, CA (about 1 million people) plus San Jose, Costa Rica (334 thousand), is much smaller than New York, New York (12 million) plus New York, Texas (20 people). I'm sure there are many other pairs like that... Paris, France (2+ million) plus any of the two-dozen-or-so other Parises (Texas, again, for 25 thousand), if you need the cities to be in two countries... Counting "metro area" populations to include suburbs doesn't move the Sans Jose ahead, either.

Or is it land area and not population? I'm guessing some sprawled-out midwestern cities might win over dense Californian ones there, too...

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Soupspoon » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:21 am UTC

da Doctah wrote:That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

Do you know the way?

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Quey » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:37 am UTC

xaintly wrote:SWF Sherwood Forest [Not a real airport, London- LHR] > Sacramento Metro

Sacramento Metro is SMF. SWF is Stewart Int'l in New York.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby rmsgrey » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:53 pm UTC

Mikeski wrote:
da Doctah wrote:That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

Is that some sort of weighted average, or minimum population per city, or something?


I'd assume largest smaller city just from the name of the statistic. Otherwise, you're pretty much just saying "largest city with another city with the same name" and getting caught up in quibbles about definitions of "city".

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby da Doctah » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:47 pm UTC

Mikeski wrote:
da Doctah wrote:That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

Is that some sort of weighted average, or minimum population per city, or something?

San Jose, CA (about 1 million people) plus San Jose, Costa Rica (334 thousand), is much smaller than New York, New York (12 million) plus New York, Texas (20 people). I'm sure there are many other pairs like that... Paris, France (2+ million) plus any of the two-dozen-or-so other Parises (Texas, again, for 25 thousand), if you need the cities to be in two countries... Counting "metro area" populations to include suburbs doesn't move the Sans Jose ahead, either.

Or is it land area and not population? I'm guessing some sprawled-out midwestern cities might win over dense Californian ones there, too...


Population of the smaller city of the pair. That keeps you from counting things like "Canton, Ohio and Canton, China", or "Moscow, Russia and Moscow, Idaho" where some piddling wide spot in the road has the same name as an important world city. The unstated component is that I wanted one US and one non-US city, which immediately disqualified London (England and Ontario).

I got started looking for the answer to that when I guy I worked with said he had a job prospect in Alexandria and I had to ask him "Virginia or Egypt?"

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Mikeski » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:40 am UTC

So the "biggest city whose name makes you think of someplace else", heh. Makes sense that way.

When I visit relatives in Illinois, I can't say I'm from the "Twin Cities", since that means Bloomington-Normal to them.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:57 am UTC

I've similarly noted, having lived near both sides of a county line my whole life, that "The Tri-County Area" means different things depending on which side of that line you are. In Ventura County, that means Santa Barbara, Ventura, and Los Angeles counties. In Santa Barbara County, that apparently means the San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventura counties.

Basically "The Tri-County Area" is whichever county you're in and its two neighbors (not counting the inland neighbor because nobody lives there anyway, that's all just barren wasteland as far as the eye can see).
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Jarrel » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:59 am UTC

Surely 'YYY' is Delilah.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby alexriehl » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:38 pm UTC

Quey wrote:
xaintly wrote:SWF Sherwood Forest [Not a real airport, London- LHR] > Sacramento Metro

Sacramento Metro is SMF. SWF is Stewart Int'l in New York.


Tacking on to this, while LHR (London Heathrow) is the airport //most// people would fly into to get to London, there are two other airports serving the area as well: LGW (London Gatwick) and LCA (London City Airport). That said, based on the location of Sherwood Forest you'd be better off flying into Doncaster-Sheffield (DSA) [Formerly named "Robin Hood Airport"!, or maybe Manchester International (MAN) or Birmingham (BHX).
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby sfmans » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:46 pm UTC

alexriehl wrote:Tacking on to this, while LHR (London Heathrow) is the airport //most// people would fly into to get to London, there are two other airports serving the area as well: LGW (London Gatwick) and LCA (London City Airport).


It’s even worse than that - there’s also London Stansted (STN, more truthfully called Bishops Stortford Airport) and London Southend (SEN, a dog-and-pony show one hour by car or train from anywhere you’d remotely call London).

Many people seem to think that everywhere in England is in London, and the airports aren’t helping ...

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby HES » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:40 pm UTC

London Luton (LTN), too.
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Soupspoon » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:38 pm UTC

sfmans wrote:Many people seem to think that everywhere in England is in London, and the airports aren’t helping ...

London Scotland Airport…

(And that's at least three of us who've mentioned DSA, now. ;))

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby orthogon » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:05 pm UTC

HES wrote:London Luton (LTN), too.

Although for me they are last-resort options (mainly because I live in South London), Luton and Stansted don't really have much less of a claim to be "London" airports than Gatwick, based on distance, as shown in the map below. Gatwick has always been considered a London airport, well before budget airlines started pulling the "<Name of important world city> (not really)" trick: it even has an "L" in its IATA code to prove it.

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As the map shows, the real issue is the travel time, which is only weakly correlated with the distance. The 15 minute figure for Heathrow assumes that you're prepared to pay one of the world's most eyewatering train fares for the Heathrow Express, and that only gets you to Paddington, which isn't really in the centre. But it all depends on where you're ultimately travelling to/from. Heathrow is annoyingly disconnected - the Piccadilly line takes forever, and whilst there used to be an express bus to/from Feltham railway station, handy for SW London, that was discontinued, presumably in order to hand a juicy monopoly to the operators of Heathrow Express. However! When Crossrail (a.k.a. the Elizabeth Line) opens, travel to Heathrow ought to get a lot better. Luton doesn't have its own railway station: you have to take a shuttle bus from Luton Airport Parkway, so I'm suspicious of the 24 minute figure.
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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby sonar1313 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:25 pm UTC

Mikeski wrote:
da Doctah wrote:That San Jose one. Is that California or Costa Rica?

(World's largest pair of same-named cities.)

Is that some sort of weighted average, or minimum population per city, or something?

San Jose, CA (about 1 million people) plus San Jose, Costa Rica (334 thousand), is much smaller than New York, New York (12 million) plus New York, Texas (20 people). I'm sure there are many other pairs like that... Paris, France (2+ million) plus any of the two-dozen-or-so other Parises (Texas, again, for 25 thousand), if you need the cities to be in two countries... Counting "metro area" populations to include suburbs doesn't move the Sans Jose ahead, either.

Or is it land area and not population? I'm guessing some sprawled-out midwestern cities might win over dense Californian ones there, too...


The peculiar arrangements in Alaska mean that the winner - probably the worldwide winner - is Sitka, AK plus whichever of the various other Sitkas in the country is biggest.

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Re: 1937: "IATA Airport Abbreviations"

Postby Canard » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:55 pm UTC

RogueCynic wrote:What is the abbreviation for Hogsmeade?


The real station that stands in for Hogsmeade is Goathland, but this does not have a station code as it's not a mainline station and hasn't been since the 1960's - it's currently part of the North Yorkshire Moors Heritage Railway that runs steam trains as a tourist attraction. If it was still a mainline station it would logically have GOA as its code, as that has not been taken by any other British stations at the moment.
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