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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby zenten » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:00 pm UTC

joeframbach wrote:Spoiler'd for size 'n 'at.

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That last one is the most creepy strip here so far.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Loupis » Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:12 pm UTC

I thought I'd read every Garfield strip, but I don't remember those at all. It's almost like they were done by someone else, like maybe Jim Davis' meth-addicted uncle. They're actually pretty depressing, which I didn't think Garfield was capable of achieving intentionally.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby supermelon928 » Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:36 am UTC

those were my favourite garfield strips of all time when i was a kid. i still have two of the books they appear in.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Kartoffelkopf » Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:15 am UTC

e946 wrote:
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Garfield Minus Garfield


IMO it's a lot better if garfield stays in the strip but his dialog is removed. Otherwise it looks like he's talking to someone just outside the view.

I already knew about this - that's what I thought when I read 'Garfield without Garfield'. It makes Jon look delightfully insane. :P

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby rrwoods » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:06 pm UTC

zenten wrote:
joeframbach wrote:Spoiler'd for size 'n 'at.

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That last one is the most creepy strip here so far.

Wait, those are actual Garfield strips? They look like bad 'shops.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby lowbart » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:31 pm UTC

They're so bad that they're good. Especially the last one.

It reminds me of that Dr Who episode where the 9th Doctor finds all those people that are mysteriously growing gas masks on their faces.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby zenten » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:20 pm UTC

rrwoods wrote:
zenten wrote:
joeframbach wrote:Spoiler'd for size 'n 'at.

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That last one is the most creepy strip here so far.

Wait, those are actual Garfield strips? They look like bad 'shops.


They are bad shops. Where did I say otherwise?

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby rrwoods » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:24 pm UTC

Gah, sorry -- fixing my own post:
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supermelon928 wrote:those were my favourite garfield strips of all time when i was a kid. i still have two of the books they appear in.
Wait, those are actual Garfield strips? They look like bad 'shops.

Though I did quote the strips I thought melon was referring to.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby apeman5291 » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:13 am UTC

lowbart wrote:They're so bad that they're good. Especially the last one.

It reminds me of that Dr Who episode where the 9th Doctor finds all those people that are mysteriously growing gas masks on their faces.


Wow, I saw that one during the short period I watched that show (I actually think it was the first or second one I saw). I noticed the resemblance once you mentioned it.


Anyway, I really like the Halloween strips. For all that they're depressing, they do a really good job of making the reader think, which more strips should do. Now we just need to get XKCD in the sunday paper...
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Re: Screw the Cat

Postby Wazmo Nariz » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:54 am UTC

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Here's a completely unaltered Garfiled strip from March 3rd on the same theme:

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Which can be paraphrased,
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby xabram » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:39 am UTC

I may be totally running this thread off topic, but on a similar note as the Garfields with no Garfield dialog, this is a website that randomly generates a cartoon of The Family Circus and pairs it with a random Nietzsche quote as its caption. It's quite amusing.

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Azraelle » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:02 pm UTC

God, I remember LOVING Garfield when I was growing up. I collected every book up to #21 religiously. I even had the Garfield trivia book, and managed to get most of them right. I watched Garfield and Friends every Saturday. Then I just sort of ... fell out of it; that's about the time I discovered that I could find porn on the internet, so you know, my priorities changed. I saw a strip in the Sunday comics section recently where Jon and Liz were an actual couple now? When did that happen? The Liz rejection jokes and failed dates were really old sure, but that's because she didn't like him. Now suddenly she finds him oddly alluring? WUT?

I'll still read the strips whenever I happen to see one. Just something nostalgic about the cat.
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Jorpho » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:20 am UTC

xabram wrote:I may be totally running this thread off topic, but on a similar note as the Garfields with no Garfield dialog, this is a website that randomly generates a cartoon of The Family Circus and pairs it with a random Nietzsche quote as its caption. It's quite amusing.


Amazing! Some of the connections that come up are just so perfectly apt that it seems hard to believe it's random.

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Well, it wasn't necessarily just you; there seems to be some agreement that it was right about then that Mr. Davis's creative genius began to wane.

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Silent Garfield

Postby Actaeus » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:30 pm UTC

I don't remember where this is from, but it's fun.
You simply remove all of Garfield's thought bubbles from the comic strip and you get a depressed, pathetic man talking to his randomly violent cat.
Also, there's a good deal of randomness.
And yet, it's amusing!
The last week: (Sunday's didn't have any bubbles to begin with)
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Re: Silent Garfield

Postby SoapyHobo » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:40 pm UTC

It's also just as good without Garfield in it at all:
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Re: Silent Garfield

Postby dangerskew » Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:56 pm UTC

Random thought: I used to read garfield a lot then stopped (As in, over 5 years ago at least). Liz looks much different.
And yeah, I prefer Garfield Minus Garfield. Jon talking to thin air is very amusing.
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Re: Silent Garfield

Postby joeframbach » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:07 pm UTC

This topic already has a thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=166

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby MoonBuggy » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:56 pm UTC

The Nietzsche Family Circus is really rather wonderful. Some of the combinations are far too appropriate (others are just very surreal)
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Actaeus » Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:28 am UTC

The Eagle_Fire Randomizer's back!
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In Which Garfield Turns Jon Into a Dog:
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In Which Garfield Steals That Which Does Not Exist:
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In Which Garfield Finally Loses His Mind:
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EDIT: In Which the World Awakens:
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Insanity's Partner » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:34 am UTC

Hm. I guess when he wrote the comic, he hadn't read "Garfield: His Nine Lives".

It's the best Garfield book ever written. It wasn't really intended for children to read it. It involves partial nudity. And profanity. (Well, it uses the word "ass" a few times. ^^)

There are nine different stories, and each one pertains to a different life belonging to Garfield. Some of them are even faintly disturbing, like the one where one of Garfield's past lives possesses him, causing him to attack his elderly owner. >=]

Very few of them look anything like the Garfield comics. Some of them are drawn to look realistic, and then there's one that looks like...well, it's hard to describe. I think they drew it up when they were high, though. ^^

And then, there's the comic strip plot that ran the week before Halloween in the early eighties. I can't remember if it was 1982 or 1984. But the plot line basically was that Garfield wakes up in the future in his abandoned house, and hallucinates wildly as he slowly starves to death, trying to fill the loneliness with his imagination. The comic basically implies that every strip written after it was just one of Garfield's hallucinations. ^^
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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Insanity's Partner » Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:36 am UTC

Ah, here's the comic:

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby Jorpho » Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:18 am UTC

Insanity's Partner wrote:There are nine different stories, and each one pertains to a different life belonging to Garfield. Some of them are even faintly disturbing, like the one where one of Garfield's past lives possesses him, causing him to attack his elderly owner. >=]


I remember the TV special (I think there are segments on Youtube), and I vaguely remember the book (which differed in some ways), but I don't remember that particular segment. I do remember that the "film noir" story was later recycled as its own primetime special, "Garfield's Babes and Bullets", though it was drawn in the typical cartoon style.

(Those primetime specials were good stuff. Remember "Garfield's Feline Fantasies" ? Having to fill a whole 22 minutes with a single plotline led to better writing than in Garfield & Friends, I think.)

And then, there's the comic strip plot that ran the week before Halloween in the early eighties. I can't remember if it was 1982 or 1984. But the plot line basically was that Garfield wakes up in the future in his abandoned house, and hallucinates wildly as he slowly starves to death, trying to fill the loneliness with his imagination. The comic basically implies that every strip written after it was just one of Garfield's hallucinations. ^^


Turns out Wikipedia actually has a whole blurb on that. (That's right, a whole blurb!)

One storyline, which ran the week before Halloween in 1989 (Oct 23 to Oct 28), is unique among Garfield strips in that it is not meant to be humorous. It depicts Garfield awakening in a future in which the house is abandoned and he no longer exists. In tone and imagery the storyline for this series of strips is very similar to the animation segment for Valse Triste from Allegro non troppo, which depicts a ghostly cat roaming around the ruins of the home it once inhabited.

There was some speculation about what these strips meant[citation needed], including the possibility that Garfield was either dead or starving to death in an abandoned house, imagining future strips in a state of denial. Jim Davis is reported to have actually “laughed loudly” when informed of these rumors circulating on the internet.[46] In Garfield’s Twentieth Anniversary Collection, in which the strips are reprinted, Jim Davis discusses the genesis for this series of strips. His caption, in its entirety states:
“During a writing session that week, I got the idea for this decidedly different series of strips. I wanted to scare people. And what do people fear? Why, being alone of course. We carried out the concept to its logical conclusion and got a lot of responses from readers. Reaction ranged from 'Right on!' to 'This isn't a trend is it?'”"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garfield

I'm pretty sure it's also in the 20th book, "Garfield Takes Up Space".

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Re: "Garfield" discussion

Postby scalziand » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:30 pm UTC

FYI, Jim Davis approves of the 'Garfield minus Garfield' concept, and has sold a Garfield minus Garfield book.


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