0416: "Zealous Autoconfig"

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0416: "Zealous Autoconfig"

Postby Ratclaw » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:25 am UTC

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Alt text: I hear this is an option in the latest Ubuntu release.

http://xkcd.com/416/

I wish I had something as aggressive as this. Might help sometimes, especially if you don't have any qualms about what it can do.

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"Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby Socal Swimmer » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:25 am UTC

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alt text: "I hear this is an option in the latest Ubuntu release."

haha. This would be very handy.

But it would be quite expensive to maintain field agents, wouldn't it?
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Socal Swimmer » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:27 am UTC

damn you! by less than a minute!

oh well, you did slightly better..

anyways.

this would be very handy. But wouldn't it be expensive to maintain field agents? or would they work for free (open source field agents)?
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby crp » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:28 am UTC

if my laptop could do this i wouldn't have migraines with the dial-up sound pounding in my head :p

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:29 am UTC

The field agents would be expensive, but consider the price of not having field agents.

No internet.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby thebestsophist » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:31 am UTC

If he's hitting ctrl-c during negotiations, do the field agents just hold onto the children indefinitely, or would the autoconfig send abort orders?

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby fatduck » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:31 am UTC

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby NOT Steve » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:31 am UTC

There's no link. I think that means you lose.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Ratclaw » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:32 am UTC

Haha, I'm sorry.

Socal Swimmer wrote:(open source field agents)?


Best thing I've heard all day.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby marco » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:32 am UTC

GodShapedBullet wrote:The field agents would be expensive, but consider the price of not having field agents.

No internet.


I'm guessing the agents come with the application :) ...since the guy is trying to kill it. He probably didn't know the power of this new network app
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby benjhuey » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:33 am UTC

Thorough. A man needs his internet.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby mountaingoat » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:33 am UTC

sean22190 wrote:I was hoping this would be an Ubuntu joke. :?


Excellent.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby biomatter » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:35 am UTC

Ha! That's awesome. *runs off to check Ubuntu*

Oh, and what are you talking about, fatduck? Not the Game, perhaps? I'm not too sure how that's relevant....
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Not_a_Spambot » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:35 am UTC

GodShapedBullet wrote:The field agents would be expensive, but consider the price of not having field agents.

No internet.


Maybe the field agents are just reconfigured Eee PC Hamsterbots. Just lure the kids into the back of the van and drive off. I knew they would be useful.

Then again, remember we're talking Python.

Import field agents.
Or something like that.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby syckls » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:38 am UTC

This seems kinda interesting, but I'm not really into Pokemon.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby OfficiallyHaphazard » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:38 am UTC

This one cracked me up.

Also reminds me of the recent "no internet" southpark
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Omega6 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:45 am UTC

Did anyone else notice a similarity between this comic and the substitute comic?

http://xkcd.com/135/

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby jimic79 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:51 am UTC

sudo apt-get install iwconfig-aircrack-wep-autoconfig

C'mon linux developers... you know you want to...

Edit: *checks multiverse...
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby caadoptees » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:53 am UTC

Been RSS'ing your comics for a while now. However, I don't always understand them all, but I try. The reason that this caught my eye is that Lenhart is my mother's maiden name. Did you have a reason (that you can share) for this name?

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby jimic79 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:54 am UTC

caadoptees wrote:Been RSS'ing your comics for a while now. However, I don't always understand them all, but I try. The reason that this caught my eye is that Lenhart is my mother's maiden name. Did you have a reason (that you can share) for this name?


Do you happen to be in school? Or hear field agents nearby? I'd run if i were you....
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" discussion

Postby The_Duck » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:56 am UTC

Excellent. I love "Ctrl-C, Ctrl-C".
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Durinthal » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:58 am UTC

How traceable is it?

I'd consider using it, particularly if the field agents dress up as clowns. Maybe their outfits are somewhere in the config file?

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby pgn674 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:59 am UTC

Well, by pressing CTRL-C and sending SIGINT, he's interrupting the WIFI Autoconfig process. I expect it will kill the AI field agents it had forked earlier. Since these agents had previously inherited the children, they're now the children's parents. Since the parents are being quickly killed, the children now become zombies.

That's what happens to the children.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby aleflamedyud » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:12 am UTC

Oh me yarm, I WANTS!!!! KAWAII, SABABA!!!

I've always wanted to take hostages!
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby AltoidAddict » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:15 am UTC

biomatter wrote:Ha! That's awesome. *runs off to check Ubuntu*

Oh, and what are you talking about, fatduck? Not the Game, perhaps? I'm not too sure how that's relevant....


The movie Wargames, I think.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby rwald » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:23 am UTC

pgn674 wrote:Well, by pressing CTRL-C and sending SIGINT, he's interrupting the WIFI Autoconfig process. I expect it will kill the AI field agents it had forked earlier. Since these agents had previously inherited the children, they're now the children's parents. Since the parents are being quickly killed, the children now become zombies.

That's what happens to the children.

Actually, my thoughts went something like this: "If he just hit ctrl+c once, it would send SIGINT; that would give the autoconfig process time to exit cleanly, which would probably notify field agents to release the children. However, by sending it twice, he might have interrupted that cleanup process and prevented the 'release children' command from being sent."
Incidentally, I'm not sure how this relates to possibly sending SIGKILL; I know that, for example, rsync will clean up nicely if sent SIGTERM but will leave temporary files when sent SIGKILL. I don't know if sending it SIGINT quickly in rapid succession does anything interesting, though.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Robin S » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:28 am UTC

Omega6 wrote:Did anyone else notice a similarity between this comic and the substitute comic?
So he knows someone with the surname Lenhart.

I liked this one.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby coldsteelrail » Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:51 am UTC

awesome! I dont think he likes ubuntu anymore though.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Jjarro » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:00 am UTC

I cracked up repeatedly at this one. I like the guy's reactions the most, though. "um..." and then the semi-frantic attempts to cancel.
Thinking about it makes me laugh all over again - I wonder why some things are so goddamn funny to me? This is one of those things that will have me laughing to myself for days. Awesome.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby photosinensis » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:01 am UTC

Field agents? Who needs them? All you need to do is a series of generic form conversations. As for the kids, you don't have to kidnap them, but simply threaten them. Extortion goes a long way.

Besides, remember, this is Python. "import turingtest" should make totally awesome threats.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby atrain » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:15 am UTC

Surprised nobody has made something similar to the first part.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby 1337geek » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:19 am UTC

People always say that Randall is in their head, but now I fully understand! This very situation happened to me on Friday when I upgraded to Hardy Heron. My neighbor is a teacher. I wondered why her kids were at school but she wasn't. Turns out she couldn't be there that day, so she asked for a substitute. It's fortunate that she was home that day so she could ward off the field agents before I got arrested.

Get out of my head, Randall! You think this is funny?!

P.S. I heard the substitute was pretty crazy. Don't think he'll get invited to teach again. Apparently he spent the whole period drawing stick figures and dinosaurs. Too bad there's not a market for that.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Not_a_Spambot » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:23 am UTC

Robin S wrote:
Omega6 wrote:Did anyone else notice a similarity between this comic and the substitute comic?
So he knows someone with the surname Lenhart.

I liked this one.


Or perhaps the Autoconfig made an error. It searched the school for children named Lenhart, and found Mrs. Lenhart, the teacher from the 135 comic, instead. Since the command sent was, "Capture Lenhart Children", the field agents probably took the entire class hostage. And since the next command was "Call parents, negotiate for WiFi password", The field agents started calling all the parents. Man, that guy was *that* close to having free Internet for anywhere in town.

Of course, let us not forget the memories of the unfortunate children who didn't have WiFi in their homes.... :cry:
Or something like that.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby R.K. » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:25 am UTC

I'm reminded of Endgame: Singularity. :)
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby NightStar » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:27 am UTC

1337geek wrote:Apparently he spent the whole period drawing stick figures and dinosaurs. Too bad there's not a market for that.
I see what you did there.
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Anarchy965 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:53 am UTC

I'm posting from my new Hardy Heron installation. I have yet to find this option. :D

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby Linux0s » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:23 am UTC

This is what people get for zealously complaining their Linux install didn't autodetect their wifi network and therefore the distro is completely useless.
Oh, Linux will connect wifi now!

This has shades of: http://xkcd.com/251/ Skynet here we come!
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:29 am UTC

One of my coworkers is working on all the fun linux stuff... working through a dist-upgrade, kernel rebuild, and raid setup... and he's getting ready to do it on a production server too, so he has to be careful...

I'm sure he'd appreciate it if there were more autoconfig scripts this zealous floating around. Error checking and fallback procedures like this would make everything so much easier, and if that meant holding all our clients hostage so they don't try to use the half-upgraded system, then so be it.

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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby VelociraptorEvader » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:43 am UTC

Very nice, probably what is on alot of peoples minds. Yes thats right, we must resort to field agents to get our cheap (stolen) internet access. Imagine the terrible world in which people actually pay for stuff... frightening
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Re: "Zealous Autoconfig" Discussion

Postby luketheduke » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:51 am UTC

phlip wrote:One of my coworkers is working on all the fun linux stuff... working through a dist-upgrade, kernel rebuild, and raid setup...


Yeah, you need a damn good raid setup to get a whole school with 5 field agents.

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