0417: "The Man Who Fell Sideways"

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:16 am UTC

Linux0s wrote:And apparently alternate gravity is a dominant gene.


You totally don't have enough of a pedigree to make that conclusion.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby suso » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:46 am UTC

Don't you know, you only have to kiss a woman to get her pregnant. At least that's what they think. And since perception is reality, this comic works.

I think this is the largest XKCD comic ever. Is it? 28 panels and 640x1237 pixels.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby cyberia » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:26 pm UTC

Absolutely love this comic. It reminds me of the earlier ones like the "barrel" arc and the general sense of whimsy I get from the early strips.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby elminster » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:54 pm UTC

NO FREAKING WAY! (I never normally say that; in fact, I think it sounds stupid)

I had a dream about 3 or 4 days ago, and literally typed it out, but didn't get around to posting it into the dreams thread (As with a lot of my posts).
In the dream, gravity was pulling me at exactly 30 degrees from the perpendicular of what gravity normally pulls. So I went on top of a sky scraper building and "fell" over the tops of other buildings which gave a simulated flying experience. One building in particular was the Arc de Triomphe (The archway in Paris) with 2 cathedral spires on top of it. The reason why I didn't post it, was due to time spent trying to find exactly what cathedral had that kind of spire and eventually I gave up then closed the tab with the post on it.

I went to check the dreams thread just before coming here in the vain hope that I did post it before deleting. I need to actually post more things I type, so more things like this can happen. :?

That dream was most likely formed from information found that day while researching cathedrals on Wikipedia. Damn Wikipedia with all its abundance of easily consumable information, linked in a way that just makes you want to read everything and it just won't stop. Once you take the first hit, you just can't leave it alone... it's like crack :(
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Arancaytar » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:04 pm UTC

ig0r wrote:How come no one has mentioned this Don Rosa comic yet? It has the same concept (well the sideways gravity part at least) and it's always been one of my favorites.

Or is it just that Don Rosa isn't such a big deal in the US as he is here in Finland?


You... You have linked to a place where I can find comics by Don Rosa. Marry me.

I'm not sure if Don Rosa is a big deal in the US, or even in Germany, but he is bloody awesome. Speaking of Finland, I'm sure you're familiar with his epic masterwork, a rendition of Kalevala? :D

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Fie on you madam! It takes more than a disruption of the basic laws of physics to thwart Scrooge McDuck!


:lol:

Edit2: Also, I am intensely dizzy right now.

Edit3: It's interesting to compare the English original with the German translation. We never get Harry Potter style Latin spells when Gundel Gaukeley --I mean Magica de Spell - does magic.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Kni7es » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:05 pm UTC

And all I could think was,

"They see me rollin'... they hatin'...."

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby phlip » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:08 pm UTC

suso wrote:I think this is the largest XKCD comic ever. Is it? 28 panels and 640x1237 pixels.

Nope... that honour goes to Godel, Escher, Kurt Halsey, by a very large margin.

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In terms of height alone, the biggest comics so far are:
  1. Godel, Escher, Kurt Halsey (4610px)
  2. To Be Wanted (1519px)
  3. Parody Week: Achewood (1453px)
  4. Ferret (1307px)
  5. The Glass Necklace (1262px)
  6. The Man Who Fell Sideways (1237px)
  7. 1337: Part 4 (1179px)
  8. 1337: Part 5 (1156px)
  9. Abusive Astronomy (1128px)

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby SteveMB » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:39 pm UTC

I wonder what his version of the Kama Sutra looks like....

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Not_a_Spambot » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:59 pm UTC

I, like others have mentioned, used to think about this all the time as a youngster. I wonder how common this is?

elminster wrote:NO FREAKING WAY! (I never normally say that; in fact, I think it sounds stupid)

I had a dream about 3 or 4 days ago, and literally typed it out, but didn't get around to posting it into the dreams thread (As with a lot of my posts).


Last night I had a dream where I discovered a child's corpse concealed within a snowman. I miss having (relatively) normal nightmares.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby SciBoy » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:38 pm UTC

MalumOpus wrote:There's a sf book with this very premise - except that gravity has gone completely sideways for the entire world, so everyone thinks they're living on ledges protruding from an endless cliff face, and everyone has forgotten the time when gravity was towards the centre of the Earth. It's 'On' by Adam Roberts. Interesting book, though Roberts generally tends to play it a bit loose with the laws of physics in his novels.

I think sideways gravity would violate conservation of energy, though in the book


I was going to say this. :( But as per usual the internet rule #34 is in effect. "Anything you can think of, someone else will have posted before you." :-)

I enjoyed the book somewhat, although it was kind of hard to get vested in the characters and he didn't really have anywhere to go with the whole thing. The only interesting part is the explanation as to what the "Wall" is an why it came into being.

Similar writers with great ideas would be Greg Egan (one of my favourites) and of course the genius himself: Philip K. Dick (both of these authors are better than Roberts).

The most interesting thing about this novel is how incredibly hard it is to find it. Try searching for "on" if you don't know the name of the author. :-D Luckily there's an "Advanced Search" on Amazon where you can specify Science Fiction & Fantasy.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Vanguard » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:47 pm UTC

No illusion for me because I was reading/paying attention to the panels, not the boxes.

Good comic, one of the best so far.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby phlip » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:53 pm UTC

SciBoy wrote:But as per usual the internet rule #34 is in effect. "Anything you can think of, someone else will have posted before you."

I think you'll find that Rule 34 is something... different to that.

Messed-up-gravity rule 34 could be interesting, though.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Random832 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:04 pm UTC

Linux0s wrote:And apparently alternate gravity is a dominant gene.


Or it's recessive and the mother is a carrier.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Unforgiven » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:12 pm UTC

Arancaytar wrote:
ig0r wrote:How come no one has mentioned this Don Rosa comic yet? It has the same concept (well the sideways gravity part at least) and it's always been one of my favorites.

Or is it just that Don Rosa isn't such a big deal in the US as he is here in Finland?


You... You have linked to a place where I can find comics by Don Rosa. Marry me.

You have my thanks too. I had every Rosa comic except the second half of one of my favourites (which I lost :( ), "Crown of the Crusader Kings", and now I have that too. :D
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Plasma Man » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:39 pm UTC

Someone needs a zorb ball
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby aleflamedyud » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:45 pm UTC

And this is what happens when you set the gravity vector wrong.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby GiantSnowman » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:48 pm UTC

If you start falling sideways, wouldn't gravity have to pick a direction (as on a compas) for you to fall in? Would that direction be genetically determined? Would one part of the sideways falling people fall west and the other part east?

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby MikeBabaguh » Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:50 pm UTC

Definitely reminded me of the Justin Timberlake Pepsi ad. Surprising that there hasn't been more than a 2-post mention of it on the first page.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby dekonstruct » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:07 pm UTC

It must have been a really hard pregnancy with the baby falling in the womb the wrong way. At least it wasn't enough force to propel the mother by her uterus. I can't imagine that's comfortable.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby mattender » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:11 pm UTC

> Soon to be a major motion picture.

Working title: "The Man Who Fell to Earth. And Sea. Obliquely. Again and Again"

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby shadow_spork » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:45 pm UTC

Nice! This one is awesome! :lol:

It's like this guy is orbiting the Earth in the extreme proximity from the surface.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby justAnotherProphet » Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:54 pm UTC

I wonder how fast you'd have to be moving to actually maintain an orbit inches above the Earth's surface... any physics students know the formula for that one? I just took computer science..

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Mikeski » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:00 pm UTC

Clearly, the baby thinks it's fun because she's falling entirely sideways. The father falls 30 degrees towards the earth, so he's got a multi-decade rug burn going. (Note the "thud"s and "wham"s in his thread, the baby's "wheee" is uninterrupted.)

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Mikeski » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:16 pm UTC

justAnotherProphet wrote:I wonder how fast you'd have to be moving to actually maintain an orbit inches above the Earth's surface... any physics students know the formula for that one? I just took computer science..

Kind of a moot question, since orbit implies no wind resistance. With all this air down here, it's more a matter of lift than pure velocity.

And orbit implies gravity pulling you the right way, these people are falling, not orbitting.

Pedantry aside, Vo = sqrt (GM/r) = sqrt ((6.67x10-11)(5.98x1024)/(6.38x106)) = 7900 m/s = 28400 km/h = 17700 mph. Zoom.

For comparison, "terminal velocity" for something roughly humanlike falling from a suitable height is in the 100-150mph range.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby dianagram » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:21 pm UTC

mattender wrote:> Soon to be a major motion picture.

Working title: "The Man Who Fell to Earth. And Sea. Obliquely. Again and Again"


Nice .... beat me to the David Bowie reference! :lol:
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby almitydave » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:27 pm UTC

"Congratulations, ma'am, you have a healthy bouncing baby girl."
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby justAnotherProphet » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:46 pm UTC

Mikeski wrote:...orbit implies gravity pulling you the right way, these people are falling, not orbitting.

Yeah, I just this thought pop into my head.. if gravity were affecting them normally, how fast would they have to be moving in order to achieve the same effect?

Mikeski wrote:Pedantry aside, Vo = sqrt (GM/r) = sqrt ((6.67x10-11)(5.98x1024)/(6.38x106)) = 7900 m/s = 28400 km/h = 17700 mph. Zoom.

..Wow. You'd... you'd actually self-ignite in the atmosphere, wouldn't you?

Mikeski wrote:For comparison, "terminal velocity" for something roughly humanlike falling from a suitable height is in the 100-150mph range.

Well, maybe your bones would be turned to jelly first and you wouldn't have to live through burning to death. Wow.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby TwilightWonder » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:02 pm UTC

Wow, I really like this one.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby phaiakia » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:06 pm UTC

dekonstruct wrote:It must have been a really hard pregnancy with the baby falling in the womb the wrong way.


See, that's exactly what I was thinking when I first read this last night... because of the whole "when he was restrained, it grew erratic" thing. Poor girl.

Edit: Also, I hate the Hermann grid thing most when you see it in the tiny floor tiles in a public restroom. Bugs the crap out of me.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Mo0man » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:31 pm UTC

Mikeski wrote:Clearly, the baby thinks it's fun because she's falling entirely sideways. The father falls 30 degrees towards the earth, so he's got a multi-decade rug burn going. (Note the "thud"s and "wham"s in his thread, the baby's "wheee" is uninterrupted.)

Wouldn't that suck even more? She'd just keep accelerating until she hit terminal velocity. And then hit something
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby TheAbstractor » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:37 pm UTC

vodka.cobra wrote:I'm predicting a sequel in which the father and daughter meet.


If they met and held each other, couldn't they equal each other out and stay still, especially if the (smaller) baby is falling at a steeper angle.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Linux0s » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:49 pm UTC

Random832 wrote:
Linux0s wrote:And apparently alternate gravity is a dominant gene.


Or it's recessive and the mother is a carrier.

But the dominant allele masks the recessive one. And it's the father who is falling about.
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Some_Random_Guy » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:54 pm UTC

GodShapedBullet wrote:
Robin S wrote:This is awesome, although I completely miss the reference in the alt text.


Jeph Jacques is a cartoonist. He makes Questionable Content. I had just spent my Sunday reading the entire archive. It's a nice comic.

I kind of wonder how the conversation went down.


I think you mean sideways ;-)
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby folkman » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:14 pm UTC

Forgive me, for the horror I'm about to unleash upon the internet, but when I saw the comic I got a spark of corny creativity and this was the result (I apologize in advance for the singing, the recording and the lyrics):

G C
When I was just a young boy you know,
D C
I got bumped around from high to low,
From home to home, all around,
My parents never did just settle down,
D
Then one day I just rolled free,

Now you couldn’t keep me locked inside,
Cause then my bounce would not subside,
And it’s not as if I broke every rule,
But I never did too well at school,
And so I just tumbled- constantly,

CHORUS
C Em
I don’t know what it is about gravity,
D G
But it’s just not the same for me,
From land to land, sea to sea,
I’m always falling endlessly,

Now I seem to be getting by all right,
Even if I kept falling without a height,
Getting knocked about here and there,
But moving too fast to really despair,
It’s not like I had somewhere to be,

Now I kept falling like a wave,
And I kept feeling like I was a slave,
To some force I did not understand,
With no one to anchor me with their hand,
Yeah the tumbling got pretty lonely,

CHORUS

Well I met this girl, I did more then brush right past,
But still I left pretty damn fast,
I thought I knocked her down, but I knocked her up,
How was I supposed to know what went on top!
I think that I left her faithfully,

So now I got a child, I hope they’re not like me,
Always falling endlessly,
Hope they float above the ground,
Never to be caught or bound,
Living life, happily,

CHORUS
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

Kalos wrote:I'm going to feel sorry for this poor girl's developmental years as she flies naked around the earth, awkwardly searching for her father.
I imagine she'd grab some clothes along the way. I hate to think how one goes to the bathroom in this situation though. o_O
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby taarnling » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:47 pm UTC

Ahh, there we go. 90 posts later Google reader notices the comic.

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby StClair » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:49 pm UTC

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Kalos wrote:I'm going to feel sorry for this poor girl's developmental years as she flies naked around the earth, awkwardly searching for her father.
I imagine she'd grab some clothes along the way. I hate to think how one goes to the bathroom in this situation though. o_O

And this sort of thing is why I said, "no logic."

Because actually? The infant will be dead within days, from thirst, starvation, or having its soft skull and fragile bones dashed against something. A little dessicated corpse, orbiting endlessly.

I prefer the happy, absurd ending. Don't you?

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Calibwam » Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:51 pm UTC

Can't wait for life to imitate this comic!
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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby Splooge169 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:01 pm UTC

Kni7es wrote:And all I could think was,

"They see me rollin'... they hatin'...."

And then you realized that nobody would remember that song if it weren't for Weird Al's "White & Nerdy."

Edit: Is that really what an ampersand looks like here?

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Re: "The Man Who Fell Sideways" Discussion

Postby ig0r » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:22 pm UTC

Arancaytar wrote:You... You have linked to a place where I can find comics by Don Rosa. Marry me.

Oh me yarm, my first post and a proposal already :shock: (I found the link from google, obviously)

I'm not sure if Don Rosa is a big deal in the US, or even in Germany, but he is bloody awesome. Speaking of Finland, I'm sure you're familiar with his epic masterwork, a rendition of Kalevala? :D

Yes, and what a tale 'twas! :D The Finnish version works even better than the original, at least for a native Finnish-speaker to whom the Kalevala jargon is quite familiar as is the Gallen-Kallela's artwork Rosa got some of his inspiration from.

Edit3: It's interesting to compare the English original with the German translation. We never get Harry Potter style Latin spells when Gundel Gaukeley --I mean Magica de Spell - does magic.


In the Finnish version the spells were (IIRC) actually quite the same-sounding. Sadly, some of Rosa's language-related jokes (puns?) get lost in translation even though the translations in Aku Ankka (Donald Duck) magazine are mostly superb.

Unforgiven wrote:You have my thanks too. I had every Rosa comic except the second half of one of my favourites (which I lost :( ), "Crown of the Crusader Kings", and now I have that too. :D

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