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0466: "Moving"

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:02 am UTC
by Scornic
Image
http://xkcd.com/466/

Alt-Text: We need a special holiday to honor the countless kind souls with unsecured networks named 'linksys'.

I know my parent's router is under the name 'linksys.'

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:03 am UTC
by aerojad
This is so 'me' it's frightening

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:03 am UTC
by GodShapedBullet
Is Pringles Cantenna a term people really use?

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:04 am UTC
by Taedirk
I keep meaning to build a cantenna, despite getting ready to move back to my apartment where router range isn't an issue. Who's got a working one and wants to share some experiences with it?

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:06 am UTC
by kilik
Nice, my network is called linsksys... my username for setup is admin... any guesses as to what the password is?
Genius... I haven't moved and had this issue yet, though my internet provider is really bad so I'm constantly doing the little dance around the room with my 5 usb extension cords and a wifi receiver at the end trying to get a unsecured network.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:06 am UTC
by joee
I did this when I moved into my prev place (the network there was set up by someone else, and my housemate didn't have the password). Didn't need a cantenna though.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:06 am UTC
by krynd
Taedirk wrote:I keep meaning to build a cantenna, despite getting ready to move back to my apartment where router range isn't an issue. Who's got a working one and wants to share some experiences with it?

Is it even possible to build one? There isn't much actual metal in there (isn't it paper lined with a thin wrap of aluminum foil?)...

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:07 am UTC
by 1337geek
While 'linksys' is common, I am also indebted to 'belkin54g'. There's one of 'em in my grandparents' small-town neighborhood. (I won't say where, because accessing an unsecured wireless network may or may not be a felony in that state....)

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:07 am UTC
by KingLoser
hahaha. YES.

We had a crappy old wireless adapter wired and selotaped to a crappy old Sky Digital satelite, and brought it to 3 different apartments for this alone.

At it's peak we got nearly a kilometer.....




I'll sell it to yas.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:07 am UTC
by niko7865
No one in my complex has unsecured routers :(


...but a few of them do use WEP :twisted:

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:08 am UTC
by DustinErnst
There are no wires on that router. At all.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:09 am UTC
by suso
Speaking of networks named linksys. I have an extra AP and I've considered plugging it in and naming it something funny like "screw off" or "Woman in 3B is hot". :twisted: Wireless AP messages for your neighbors. Anybody done this before? Had reactions to it?

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:10 am UTC
by 4=5
so true, I can ride a bus across the city without ever getting off the internet

edit: our network is named "yo mama" so we can say things like "I was on yo mama last night and I saw the craziest thing" before that it was named " ".

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 am UTC
by GodShapedBullet
suso wrote:Speaking of networks named linksys. I have an extra AP and I've considered plugging it in and naming it something funny like "screw off" or "Woman in 3B is hot". :twisted: Wireless AP messages for your neighbors. Anybody done this before? Had reactions to it?


There's apparently some joke messages on my city block but I didn't really think too much about it. Everyone does it with their iTunes playlist names so I was used to it by now.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 am UTC
by krynd
DustinErnst wrote:There are no wires on that router. At all.

I don't think they're stealing the wifi yet, just scanning for it. No sense somehow accidentally frying a router (I don't know, the classhole uses a targeted microwave beam to fry their cantenna and all connected equipment?) when they don't have to.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:11 am UTC
by madhollywood
Sadly, I have been confronted with this precise predicament.

Incidentally, I recall a Popular Science video in which they made a wifi antenna out of a metal vegetable steamer. A "cantenna" is way cooler though.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:12 am UTC
by sje46
Cantenna?

I now know a new word! Thanks, Randall!

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:12 am UTC
by bobmarksdale
kilik wrote:Nice, my network is called linsksys... my username for setup is admin... any guesses as to what the password is?


is it "root"?

When I go to my grandparents I have to hang out in their bathroom if I need internet because the range on the neighbor's network only extends to that section of the house.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:13 am UTC
by ConMan
There are no unsecured wireless networks near my place (although it would be interesting to see if a cantenna would pick up anything). However, there's a network called "wireless" somewhere near my parents' place, which is quite handy given that they're still on dial-up.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:14 am UTC
by tiny_sparks
I feel like this comic was made for me. I'm moving into an apartment this upcoming week, but my roommate's already there. We don't have our own internet yet, so whenever I visit, we have to use the one unsecured network in the area ... named "linksys."

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:16 am UTC
by cherryfizwiz
Pringles cans, from what i recall (haven't had any in quite a while!), are cardboard? or am I wrong on this.

Also, one of my neighbors used to have an unsecured network. I used to use that when my own crappy internet failed. But sadly... they've gotten smart.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:17 am UTC
by pyroman
awww i picked the wrong thread owell i'll just transfer it here

WIN

When i got my laptop i developed the habit of carrying it along with my nerd bag (filled with all sorts of nerdy goodies) almost everywhere i go I have even been known to stop on the side of the road to if i need to google something. My friends always make fun of me for my excessive efforts in trying to get wifi wherever i go. needless to say many of em will receive a link to this comic.

edit: the generic linksys admin/admin is one of my best friends on the road

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:24 am UTC
by thebandit
Randall Munroe, get out of my head. </obvious>

I am passionately in love with my neighbor. He has unsecured wireless.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:25 am UTC
by footzilla
Linksys MACs start 00-06-25. Might I suggest June 25th as an acceptable day to celebrate open linksys wireless networks? Oh, and thanks, but I already know that it would be more proper to celebrate on June 37th. No.

This would collide with National Catfish Day here in the US. I'm so okay with that. It would also coincide with Mozambique's Independence Day. Open wireless seems like a fitting way to celebvrate independence, so I think we're good there too.

Who will join me in setting up an open wireless network with SSID "linksys" (I'll be doing it on Netgear hardware) on the 25th of June? Or should the SSID be "xkcd"?

Maybe I'm going about this all wrong. How about August 22nd? That seems like a fitting day too. It collides with a Roman Catholic feast, but what day doesn't? I don't think Mary would mind us setting up free wifi networks as we celebrate her Immaculate Heart.

Thoughts?

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:33 am UTC
by stormoftara
My wireless network is named Linksys. :O But it does have a password...


My neighbors internet is unsecured though. Sometimes I connect to it by accident when I go out back and sit on the porch. My computer likes their internet connection better than the one it's supposed to connect to for some reason.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:34 am UTC
by tradiuz
I just moved, as in, moved the last of my stuff tonight, and am actually sleeping here.

First thing I did, bust out the laptop and see if I could get wifi while they finish construction around me. Best of all, I have access to my work wireless from here (only downside is no porn, since I set up the filters pretty well).

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:37 am UTC
by newhouseb
Wow, having moved into two new apartments in the last two months this is perfect.

I think Randall should make another comic about finding wifi without the pringles can. How many of you have stood on your bed, arms fully extended with your laptop dangerously hovering near the ceiling (the only place you can get a signal) while you try to hit refresh in FF to read your email? Or how about squished up behind the door to your apartment curled up like a cat, and scaring the living hell out of your roommate when he comes in and asks "What the $*&% are you doing?" "Oh, nothing, I just found wifi here"

...I know I have.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:40 am UTC
by Eugo
1337geek wrote:While 'linksys' is common, I am also indebted to 'belkin54g'. There's one of 'em in my grandparents' small-town neighborhood. (I won't say where, because accessing an unsecured wireless network may or may not be a felony in that state....)


You mean in that state of total despair?

...I was (un)lucky to have moved before I had anything wireless, but yeh, the state of "we're alone in this universe" and "the world is gone" used to last for a week or two (I hope the guys at Verizon believe in hell so they can get there once). Even nowadays... straight from the airport, maybe have a beer near the hotel until the rest of the team arrives, and then hit the hotel's network. Other things may or may not work, the beer may not be properly cold, but we must be connected.

Then... maybe we get some time to see in which town are we.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:41 am UTC
by kellsbells
I... have real names and passwords for my wifi. My parents definitely had an unsecured network for a long time, though (until I fixed it :roll: ). Granted, they live in the middle of nowhere, so I don't really think they get too many wifi sneaks.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:42 am UTC
by Hairchrm
stormoftara wrote:My wireless network is named Linksys. :O But it does have a password...


I was stumped when I first ran into one of these with a password! And with WPA, too. I thought that my wifi was malfunctioning or something...

You are probably the only person in the world with a password on a linksys network, and I probably ran into you!

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:43 am UTC
by Philwelch
1. The point with Pringles cans is that their size approximates the wavelength of WiFi signals, not that they're exceptionally good antennas.
2. The most productive days of my life have always been prior to getting the internet hooked up at a new place.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:45 am UTC
by Luthien
I get my wireless from a cantenna.... it is made of awesome, and still smells delicious =D

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:46 am UTC
by Scornic
newhouseb wrote:Wow, having moved into two new apartments in the last two months this is perfect.

I think Randall should make another comic about finding wifi without the pringles can. How many of you have stood on your bed, arms fully extended with your laptop dangerously hovering near the ceiling (the only place you can get a signal) while you try to hit refresh in FF to read your email? Or how about squished up behind the door to your apartment curled up like a cat, and scaring the living hell out of your roommate when he comes in and asks "What the $*&% are you doing?" "Oh, nothing, I just found wifi here"

...I know I have.


"Why are you in the garage?"
"Because I can get a signal here."

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:51 am UTC
by Shotglass
krynd wrote:Is it even possible to build one? There isn't much actual metal in there (isn't it paper lined with a thin wrap of aluminum foil?)...


im too lazy to calculate it but according to wiki the skindepth in copper at 1ghz is ~2µ... at 2.4 in alu it should be less than that
which simply put means that as long as the metal is thicker than 2µ (very likely) it wont make a difference

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:53 am UTC
by Cooley
haha, I got a laptop for graduation, so I've been there. And today's my birthday, just a little offtopic... I wish I knew my neighbors' password so bad.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:59 am UTC
by lizzie14
Oh, how I relate to this.

However, I went on a two-week beach excursion with my family this past summer, and they did not understand the intense urgency of finding an internet connection.


"Jesus, Elizabeth, do you need to dig out all of those wires before you even unpack your bathing suit?"

Yes, Mom. Yes I do.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:59 am UTC
by Kni7es
Linksys networks are so fun to mess with. You can change the name and router SSID if their network is unsecured by connecting via their wifi, going to http://192.168.1.1/ and changing the settings. Holding their router hostage isn't necessarily a good idea, since they can just hit the router reset button and change everything back to factory settings, but if the admin (ie: Soccer Mom) has an unsecured linksys router, then they probably don't know about that.

And there's your little home hacking hint for the day. Enjoy folks~!

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:59 am UTC
by TheMagicalTurtle
The Alt Text speaks to me on an emotional level.

For the first year that I had my new computer in my room, I could not get a wireless connection worth a damn because it was on the opposite side of what is apparently house of lead walls. But the neighbors across the street, they brought to me salvation in the form of linksys. Oh joyous was that day.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:10 am UTC
by NimbleRabit
I can relate to this, and to the alt text, but there is something even nicer than the "linksys" in the list. Ever have the situation where there is a network named Open Wireless or Net Hub etc. etc. because some nice soul who actually knows what they are doing decided to leave their router open to the public? Sure it's great to have an open network available because somebody is a moron, but when somebody is inviting you in I feel perfectly fine using it and become interested enough to try to find out who they are and meet them.

My hat is off to those people much more than the numerous "linksys" routers out there.

Re: Moving

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:12 am UTC
by lgamefrk
This comic, almost verbatim/literally/whatever, just happened to me and my wife. We recently moved to Seattle from the LA area. We didn't manage to order internet until we were actually moved in to our new apartment, SO for the first day or two we mooched off of an unknown neighbor who had an unsecured 'linksys' network up. During this time we managed to order our internet, which unfortunately was going to take about a week to set up. During this interim period, we became unable to benefit further from our mysterious benefactor for some unknown reason. All this to say, We moved into a new apartment without internet initially, praised God that there was a neighbor to help us in our time of need, and now have internet again.