Once again, from the antipirate's point of view, not mine (except for analogical inconsistencies, but whatever):
Angelbaka wrote:My analogy works with a non-essential resource, such as a rock outside your house or seawater. Who is going to charge you for something you can simply walk outside to get? Who is going to buy it? [note that by rock, I mean a common material, not diamonds. Although, if you have diamonds in your backyard, the analogy still stands...]
The problem with this analogy is that you cannot simply "walk outside your backyard" to get music. Your internet connection has to go a few hundred kilometres to get where it is.
Here's another analogy people use when debating against piracy:
Let's say people are selling lemonade in front of your front yard. Just because it's your yard, does that mean you're entitled to a free glass of lemonade?
Actually, the internet has shown that if you take one away, many will replace him. Something like Heracles' many headed hydra... so, even if you remove the seeders (and good luck), more will ALWAYS replace them. Besides, as far as I know, the development and public distribution of programs like Hymn isn't actually illegal, removing the know-how factor.
I meant, "take away the seeders and lock 'em up for life". As in, make BitTorrent and P2P, etc. completely illegal, and forcibly removing them and any descendants/offshoots/etc. from the net, using military force if necessary. Even with your Hydra analogy, you can still light a candle on the stub of the head to keep it off. Although many will replace them, we can just repeat the process.
(Note that "using military force if necessary" is pretty radical. I doubt anyone so much against it that they'll pit hacker against hacker, but the analogy is still there.)
Non-'mainstream' [for lack of a better word] artists rarely make anywhere near enough money off of actual CD sales for any to be displeased by the loss if it means much better advertising. Also, many of them make said money of sales AT CONCERTS, which would then shift the money to my "Merch" category, because chances are that those CDs would sell anyway. If those people buy it now, they'll probably buy it later.
But most piracy doesn't happen with non-mainstream artists. Usually, only the most popular ones will get hit with any reasonable degree of hardness.
most already really do rely on just one. (see above)
Like I said, the ones that do don't get "pirated" as much. So it's a non sequitur.
: No matter how much you may argue, they will always try to shoot you down.
By the way, when I said military force, I meant 1984-style military force. If the servers are run anonymously, I would have said, "they should get people from the CIA to hack in and completely fizzle out the servers". That would certainly be effective... but unpolitical. It's not my opinion, just one I created.
EDIT: Damn, but that's a long post. Also, thank you for posing this side of the debate for me Tricky77puzzle, I do like having a counterpoint to argue. (must be something about my personality.) No insult is intended in my replies, and I apologies if any is taken.