0505: "A Bunch of Rocks"

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0505: "A Bunch of Rocks"

Postby Scornic » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:00 am UTC

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Alt Text:I call Rule 34 on Wolfram's Rule 34.


Well, I guess I CAN'T complain.

What happened to my water?
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby alchemistique » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:03 am UTC

It's true, Randall knows us college kids all too well...

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby TheHand » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:03 am UTC

Very satisfying comic! Above and beyond.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby eleniy86 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:04 am UTC

guess we should be happy that the black hat guy wasn't in this infinite universe lol

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby of.hippo » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:05 am UTC

Genius.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:06 am UTC

how can such an amazing comic exist?
at least I now know where my last piece of chocolate vanished to the other week.
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 am UTC

I guess this recontextualizes the phrase "god of the desert".

(Though probably not much because Judaism, Christianity and Islam still have a much bigger readership than xkcd does.)

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby gflive » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 am UTC

You won't believe me, but I was playing with this exact idea yesterday, while on a 5 hour bus ride. Although I didn't think of using rocks as a computer.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby person132 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:07 am UTC

This is the kind of xkcd I've been waiting for, after a few too many political ones. Great comic, although the "turing-complete" note seems like it would be better in the actual text. But that's just part of xkcd reaching a broader audience.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Joby » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:09 am UTC

I, For one, Welcome our new stone moving overloads.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:09 am UTC

GodShapedBullet wrote:I guess this recontextualizes the phrase "god of the desert".

(Though probably not much because Judaism, Christianity and Islam still have a much bigger readership than xkcd does.)

We're working on it. ;)
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Frappe051 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:10 am UTC

This is truly an amazing comic. Bravo!

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Aquila » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:11 am UTC

I love how Randall can create evocative, Watterson-esque landscapes without the use of color or even lines of different weights.

Well done, sir!
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby videogamesizzle » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:12 am UTC

this is really amazing.

good job, Randall! :D
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:13 am UTC

I don't know what there is to say besides "Win!".

Perhaps "Epic!", but then it's hard to use that so soon after Secretary...

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby includemaliciousintent » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:14 am UTC

that was...mind blowing...
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby glasnt » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:14 am UTC

So a glitch in the matrix is a misplaced stone?

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby AltoidAddict » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:17 am UTC

So it's that guy's fault that I've been accumulating so much stuff!

Not my fault at all, nope.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby sargeras0000 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:18 am UTC

:shock:

Mind is blown

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby madhollywood » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:21 am UTC

glasnt wrote:So a glitch in the matrix is a misplaced stone?


In this instance, I would say the answer is yes.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby thebeaky » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:21 am UTC

Meteorswarm wrote:But did he write the universe in Lisp?


Ostensibly yes, but honestly he just hacked most of it together with perl.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby radia » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:22 am UTC

Man, I had some stuff I needed to do, but now I'm going to be stuck thinking about how to prove the alt text's assertion of Rule 34 on Wolfram's Rule 34.

Mod[(1 + q) r, 2] isn't a whole lot to go on.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Eugo » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:22 am UTC

OK, I see that everyone else has already tried to look up "Wolfram's Rule 34" on Wikipedia, which comes up as "Wolfram Rule 34", which is still just a search and not an article. Now he couldn't possibly mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudotensor, or under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holism as a passing reference on cellular automata.

So... where are the rules? Or is this a wild goose chase. Maybe it's the geese season now.
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby radia » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:25 am UTC

Eugo wrote:OK, I see that everyone else has already tried to look up "Wolfram's Rule 34" on Wikipedia, which comes up as "Wolfram Rule 34", which is still just a search and not an article. Now he couldn't possibly mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudotensor, or under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holism as a passing reference on cellular automata.

So... where are the rules? Or is this a wild goose chase. Maybe it's the geese season now.


I was under the impression that he was referring to the cellular automata.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby marco » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:26 am UTC

I truly hope, if there is a 'superior' being, this is his/her story
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Blair » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:26 am UTC

The infinite space reminded me of Neuromancer

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby thornahawk » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:27 am UTC

Fresh from S. Wolfram...

Frankly, it's boring compared to most of the other CellularAutomaton[] rules...

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby freyyr890 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:28 am UTC

So who wants to be the first to try and calculate how much time he's spent on his universe, and how much space it takes up in the desert? I tried, but with my lack of significant mathematical skill failed.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Ditocoaf » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:29 am UTC

This was so epic... now I have my new topic to think about for the next week or two.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Iluvatar » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:36 am UTC

I'll bet Rock Man has a special place in his heart for the section of stones simulating the XKCD server.

Edit, this rock-toting diety needs a name. I propose Stone Chomsky.
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby anonymousislegion » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:38 am UTC

I have a truly marvelous rule 34 of this proposition which this post is too narrow to contain.

(also, it's nsfw.)
Spoiler:
The image below fully represents Wolfram's rule 34:
Image

Redraw it, in the following manner:
  • The three input cells of each item is drawn as three individuals. Each one is wearing clothes of a color corresponding to their location (say, for example, that the left cell wears green)
  • "Input cell" individuals are drawn as guys if the cell is black (a "1"), and girls if the cell is white (a "0").
  • If the result cell is black (a "1"), the result is an orgy with all three members.
  • If the result cell is white (a "0"), the result is the three standing uncomfortably in close proximity.

(Interestingly, Wolfram's rule 34 guarantees that the result will always have the possibility of remaining heterosexual.)

I lack the sufficient artistic ability to actually implement this. Ergo, I call upon rule 35 and you, dear reader. Go forth and create.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Catdrake » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:41 am UTC

So, is this a simulation of the universe minute by minute or is it just meant to run a simulation if the stones were read?

And can he ever, really, be done?
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Flesh_Of_The_Fallen_Angel » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:44 am UTC

anonymousislegion wrote:the result is an orgy with all three members
That's what she said! :mrgreen:

I was listening to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" by "Green Day" while it was loading . . . it goes so well with this comic . . . Randall, get out of my FoxyTunes! :twisted:

EDIT: I have dial up, that's why it took so long for it to load (I live just under a kilometre out or range of being able to use dial up because of how crappy the phone lines are :( )
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Minchandre » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:45 am UTC

Catdrake wrote:So, is this a simulation of the universe minute by minute or is it just meant to run a simulation if the stones were read?

And can he ever, really, be done?



Can there truly be said to be a difference? I mean, the simulation exists, and it's arguable that it runs merely by "god" creating and/or reading through it.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Akhilys » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:46 am UTC

Haha, this applies to me all too well!
Great comic Randall!

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby _MC_ » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:46 am UTC

He gave me the power of self-modifying code. I am The One.

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby doogly » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:47 am UTC

Catdrake wrote:So, is this a simulation of the universe minute by minute or is it just meant to run a simulation if the stones were read?

And can he ever, really, be done?


To simulate the universe in real time you'd need a quantum computer. Then again, desert guy seems a lot smarter than I.
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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby jlintern » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:49 am UTC

For those who don't remember Rule 34 of the Internet:

http://xkcd.com/305/

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby HilbertThm90 » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:50 am UTC

I too was recently thinking about something similar to this. Except it was that the most persuasive argument I've heard for the universe being deterministic has to do with John Conway's Game of Life (in which it is possible to build a Turing machine from extremely simple rules).

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Re: "A Bunch of Rocks" Discussion

Postby Emperor_Z » Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:54 am UTC

Ah, the things I would do if I were godly. Imitating this world sure as hell wouldn't be one of them.


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