0519: "11th Grade"

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0519: "11th Grade"

Postby aion7 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:09 am UTC

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Alt text: And the ten minutes striking up a conversation with that strange kid in homeroom sometimes matters more than every other part of high school combined.


Definitely the most important lessons learned in school are not in the curriculum. Also, I'm surprised the homework bar is so high. Additionally, this comic made me giggle.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby halberdier25 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:11 am UTC

I agree wholly with the entire comic.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby thornahawk » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:12 am UTC

"The learning beyond the four walls is more often than not underrated."

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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby BlueNight » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:12 am UTC

And you know that image editor you use on ...images from the Internet? That may aid you in a job as a reprographer. (Personal experience.)
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Jack21222 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:12 am UTC

I agree wholeheartedly with this comic. That's one reason why I think the Sudbury Valley model of schooling is very beneficial to many children and teens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudbury_school

Basically, it's a system where there are no classes, no homework, no grades, et cetera. Learn what you want to learn when you want to learn it.

The so-called "wasted" time is more than offset by the fact that when somebody learns something on their own accord, it sticks FAR better than having it hammered into their head.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Carnildo » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:12 am UTC

And that graph shows half the reason I quit high school halfway through the second year.

(The other half was discovering that, in English class, "did you like the book?" has a right answer and a wrong answer)
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby dharmamama » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:13 am UTC

Really, really glad to be unschooling with my kids!!

And if I weren't, they'd definitely be in a Sudbury School.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Jack21222 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:13 am UTC

dharmamama wrote:Really, really glad to be unschooling with my kids!!

And if I weren't, they'd definitely be in a Sudbury School.


Woo! Sudbury School thread! :-p
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:14 am UTC

I spent one semester of a math class translating tic-tac-toe from Fortran to Wang Basic with my best friend.

There was some Monty Python involved somehow, too, IIRC.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Jasn » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:16 am UTC

This comic seems to have been created for the purpose of describing my life.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby sje46 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:16 am UTC

When did all you big programmers start to program? I figured my time had passed, but I am a sophomore in college, so maybe I can learn something.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Megums » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:17 am UTC

As I am currently staying up way too late doing pointless English homework.

Does the deeper meaning of Girl, Interrupted really make an impact on anything? Anything at all?
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby GodShapedBullet » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:19 am UTC

The graph changes a bit if you spent those 900 hours drawing comics that you could later scan and turn into a webcomic that gets you invited to speak at Google.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Warll » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:20 am UTC

Hah, and poeple pitty me for being homeschooled! Of course few of them know just now leet my home setup is, don't forget the server I'm repairing behind me.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby aion7 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:20 am UTC

Megums wrote:As I am currently staying up way too late doing pointless English homework.

Hah, me too. However, my staying up late is a direct result of my group members not goddamn emailing me their parts. GRARGH!

Anyway, this Sudbury School idea excites me, and makes me wish that I went to one.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Zak » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:21 am UTC

I'm in my eleventh year...

Well, that just set my priorities straight.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby thornahawk » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:22 am UTC

Beating people to the punch, I recommend reading John Taylor Gatto's books. "We Need Less School, Not More" is one of his nice essays.

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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby suso » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:24 am UTC

Plus all those days and nights playing computer games on Commodores led to success in that I was accepted by and could relate to people who held positions that I wanted to attain, thus giving me some useful connections.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby caje » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:27 am UTC

He forgot the bar for time spent watching the history channel.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby firinne » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:28 am UTC

Some of my teachers/classes were pretty awesome. o.o

I REBEL AGAINST YOUR SCHOOL-REBELLION


Although at this point in time I would just like to get into college and, yes, kick half my required classes. But I mean. I wouldn't have ever met/taken some of the awesomeness if I hadn't been required to. Win some lose some.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:31 am UTC

alt text wrote:Alt text: And the ten minutes striking up a conversation with that strange kid in homeroom sometimes matters more than every other part of high school combined.


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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby RandallGetOutOfMyHead » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:34 am UTC

This is SO weird I was in 11th grade!
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby aion7 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:36 am UTC

firinne wrote:Some of my teachers/classes were pretty awesome. o.o

I REBEL AGAINST YOUR SCHOOL-REBELLION


Although at this point in time I would just like to get into college and, yes, kick half my required classes. But I mean. I wouldn't have ever met/taken some of the awesomeness if I hadn't been required to. Win some lose some.

There are definitely benefits to both methods. However, the losses are more common and drastic than the wins with the typical school style.

Somewhat related: My school is so stupid, they made PE count for our GPA.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Vertana » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:39 am UTC

I don't know about a Sudbury school, half my time in high school was finishing work in 10 minutes and using the next 45 minutes in each class figuring out how to beat the security and all of the "features" that the school employed. Now? Program for a hobby, SysAdmin for a job. Thank you authoritarian style schooling for giving me the motivation to beat you at your own game and giving me the skills to carry on a career I'll enjoy for the rest of my life!
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby joee » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:39 am UTC

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alt text wrote:Alt text: And the ten minutes striking up a conversation with that strange kid in homeroom sometimes matters more than every other part of high school combined.


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I just almost fell off my couch laughing. Thanks a lot.

I'm going to rebel and say i didn't mind homework or classes.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby plin25 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:40 am UTC

Long time lurker, first tome poster :)

See now, THIS is exactly why I have bad grades - I'm always doing stuff that actually has significant impact on my life~! Screw History, I'm not going to be a History teacher or a Historian, my joy is with computers.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby retro22 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:44 am UTC

so, nobody found the alt text disturbing and depressing(however true it may be)?
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby caje » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:46 am UTC

aion7 wrote:
firinne wrote:Somewhat related: My school is so stupid, they made PE count for our GPA.

... I thought they all did.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:48 am UTC

As I was home-schooled through all of high-school, for me it was finishing my bookwork by lunchtime and spending the afternoon programming games... and testing them!
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Freiberg » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:49 am UTC

Wow. I am in 10th grade, and this has just inspired me to go and learn PYTHON! Thank you, Munroe!



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Now where does that seem familiar from? :wink:
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby 6453893 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:51 am UTC

The most useful thing in high school was all the reading I did instead of paying attention in class.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Zaraden » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:52 am UTC

RandallGetOutOfMyHead wrote:This is SO weird I was in 11th grade!


I get the feeling you'll be back...
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby martian1018 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:53 am UTC

i have to quote Calvin (Calvin and Hobbes) : "You know how Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are even worse!" This strip applies to a lot of us programmers...
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby plin25 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:55 am UTC

Freiberg wrote:Wow. I am in 10th grade, and this has just inspired me to go and learn PYTHON! Thank you, Munroe!



Heh, I tried learning Python, I hated how everything was done using indentation and not braces :? well at least it's better than LISP right?

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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby videogamesizzle » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:56 am UTC

so wait, i'm sitting here doing spanish homework, even though i'll probably never take spanish agin, when i could be learning useful stuff? time to re-organizer my priorities...

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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby foodeater184 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:01 am UTC

retro22 wrote:so, nobody found the alt text disturbing and depressing(however true it may be)?


More interesting than disturbing. What kind of story would inspire it?

And I didn't mind high school either. It was a good way to pass the time, anyway. Not like I had anything else to do.

I would have failed out of a sudbury school, had I gone to one. I never would have started anything :(
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:02 am UTC

caje wrote:He forgot the bar for time spent watching the history channel.


Not to mention the time watching the Boom De Yada channel.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:13 am UTC

Freiberg wrote:Wow. I am in 10th grade, and this has just inspired me to go and learn PYTHON! Thank you, Munroe!



plin25 wrote:Long time lurker, first time poster :)


Now where does that seem familiar from? :wink:


Python - good stuff. If you like indentation[1] (and snakes) and you're writing for .Net (or Mono), take a look at Cobra.

[1] There's much more to it than that.
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Re: "11th Grade" Discussion

Postby Carnildo » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:14 am UTC

sje46 wrote:When did all you big programmers start to program? I figured my time had passed, but I am a sophomore in college, so maybe I can learn something.


You probably shouldn't look at me as an example, then: I started programming when I was six. Being bored in class usually involved things like figuring out the memory-mapping system needed for a port of SimCity to the Commodore 64.
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