Clarification for everyone (I eventually worked out what golemB was saying): 0110=6, 0010=2, 0110=6, 0001=1, etc. The spaces made me think it was a code it didn't know. Converting the ASCII codes in their eight digit form gives 98 97 115 101 32 50 (not sure why I did that).Luthen wrote:MygolemB wrote:for the base10 representation as a single string ("6261 7365 2032"),Iluvatar wrote:The binary reads, appropriately, "base 2"
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givemecheese wrote:Hmmm... The diagram is severely confused by the fact that the starting position (i.e. no sex/pre eyecontact) is the same point on the diagram as sex. Perhaps we could come up with some sort of clearer coordinate system here.
Polar Coordinates? Home can be (Pi)/2 and sex is (3Pi)/2 unless it was rotated to make sense in polar, then it would just be 0 and 2Pi.
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Actaeus wrote:ThemePark wrote:Luthen wrote:My Googlefu is weak, what did that mean?golemB wrote:for the base10 representation as a single string ("6261 7365 2032"),Iluvatar wrote:The binary reads, appropriately, "base 2"
It's the hexadecimal representation of the ASCII characters of the string "base 2".
No it isn't, it's decimal.
Nope, sorry, it's hexadecimal.
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hex dec char
62 98 b
61 97 a
73 115 s
65 101 e
20 32 [space]
32 50 2
What's the difference between base10 and decimal, anyway?
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Luthen wrote:Clarification for everyone (I eventually worked out what golemB was saying): 0110=6, 0010=2, 0110=6, 0001=1, etc. The spaces made me think it was a code it didn't know. Converting the ASCII codes in their eight digit form gives 98 97 115 101 32 50 (not sure why I did that).
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ASCII: B A S E <space> 2
Binary: 0110 0010 0110 0001 0111 0011 0110 0101 0010 0000 0011 0010
Decimal(by quartets): 6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2
Hexadecimal(by quartets): 6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2
Hexadecimal(by octects): 62 61 73 65 20 32
Decimal(by octets): 98 97 115 101 32 50
Oh me yarm! Because 16=2^{4} the decimal (or hexadecimal because each is less than 10) expression of each group of four binary digits gives either the "sixteens" or "ones" column of the hexadecimal expansion of each eight digit ASCII character. </sarcasm>
The decimal representation given should have been spaced "6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2". It's not the real decimal representation as it uses the 4bit groups rather than the whole byte ASCII designations but it is a decimal representation. And it just so happens that if you pair the decimals you get the hexadecimal representation of the full bytes.
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Luthen wrote:Luthen wrote:Clarification for everyone (I eventually worked out what golemB was saying): 0110=6, 0010=2, 0110=6, 0001=1, etc. The spaces made me think it was a code it didn't know. Converting the ASCII codes in their eight digit form gives 98 97 115 101 32 50 (not sure why I did that).dennisw & Actaeus wrote:Shouting match without listening to each otherfix'd (partially)Code: Select all
ASCII: b a s e <space> 2
Binary: 0110 0010 0110 0001 0111 0011 0110 0101 0010 0000 0011 0010
Decimal(by quartets): 6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2
Hexadecimal(by quartets): 6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2
Hexadecimal(by octects): 62 61 73 65 20 32
Decimal(by octets): 98 97 115 101 32 50
Oh me yarm! Because 16=2^{4} the decimal (or hexadecimal because each is less than 10) expression of each group of four binary digits gives either the "sixteens" or "ones" column of the hexadecimal expansion of each eight digit ASCII character. </sarcasm>
The decimal representation given should have been spaced "6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2". It's not the real decimal representation as it uses the 4bit groups rather than the whole byte ASCII designations but it is a decimal representation. And it just so happens that if you pair the decimals you get the hexadecimal representation of the full bytes.
The decimal representation should have been given as:
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Binary Decimal (by onetets): 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0
</sarcasm>
Just because you're not using all the numerals of a number system and number systems have numerals in common, you don't change bases (base system, as in the title of the comic, get it?). It's not at all "it just so happens".
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Binary: 0110 1101 0110 1111 0110 1110 0110 1011
Hexadecimal: 6 D 6 F 6 E 6 B
Decimal: 109 111 110 107
ASCII: m o n k
The D, F, E and B are not decimal digits. Neither are all of the 6's (unless you'd like to shift back and forth, digit by digit, between hex and decimal). Neither is any digit in "6 2 6 1 7 3 6 5 2 0 3 2" (in the context from which it came). By the way, my example spells "monk"  as in someone who never takes the field, so to speak.
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dennisw wrote:What's the difference between base10 and decimal, anyway?
Well, obviously in base10 you only have 10 symbols to choose from, namely 0 and 1 whereas in decimal you have 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
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sakeniwefu wrote:dennisw wrote:What's the difference between base10 and decimal, anyway?
Well, obviously in base10 you only have 10 symbols to choose from, namely 0 and 1 whereas in decimal you have 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
See, it's funny, because he is implying that the "10" in "base10" is binary, so it equates to what most people understand to be "2".
In a basen number system, n is always written as "10"
"2" in base2 : "10"
"3" in base3 : "10"
"4" in base4 : "10"
"5" in base5 : "10"
"6" in base6 : "10"
"7" in base7 : "10"
"8" in base8 : "10"
So, when you say "base10", depending on what base the reader uses, it can be interpreted as anything.
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10nitro wrote:sakeniwefu wrote:dennisw wrote:What's the difference between base10 and decimal, anyway?
Well, obviously in base10 you only have 10 symbols to choose from, namely 0 and 1 whereas in decimal you have 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
See, it's funny, because he is implying that the "10" in "base10" is binary, so it equates to what most people understand to be "2".
In a basen number system, n is always written as "10"
"2" in base2 : "10"
"3" in base3 : "10"
"4" in base4 : "10"
"5" in base5 : "10"
"6" in base6 : "10"
"7" in base7 : "10"
"8" in base8 : "10"
So, when you say "base10", depending on what base the reader uses, it can be interpreted as anything.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "default" base for most people is A.
I've decided that saying 1337_{10} is stupid, and unfair to the other bases, however, so I suggest 1337_{A} to avoid confusion.
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As far as starting where you end: Remember, home base has no value until the other three bases have been tagged  in order  the batter can jump up and down on home plate all s/he wants but s/he doesn't score until the other three bases have been tagged...so I don't see the contradiction there. On the other hand, I've coached softball and I'm a baseball fan...

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I'm a little concerned by the use of the "Maginot Line". As I recall it was never breached. The Germans simply went round it. I dread to think how that translates to this situation.
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I think you can do this using cricket, and you don't even need to edit the map. Just read the position names and let your imagination soar into the gutter, if I may mix the vectors of my metaphors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crick ... tions2.svg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crick ... tions2.svg
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p314rat wrote:I think you can do this using cricket, and you don't even need to edit the map. Just read the position names and let your imagination soar into the gutter, if I may mix the vectors of my metaphors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crick ... tions2.svg
This is hilarious.
"Short Leg (Bat Pad)"
"Third Man"
"Leg Slip"
"Mid On"
"Silly MidOn"
Silly midon is my new favorite euphemism for sex.
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Actaeus wrote:p314rat wrote:I think you can do this using cricket, and you don't even need to edit the map. Just read the position names and let your imagination soar into the gutter, if I may mix the vectors of my metaphors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crick ... tions2.svg
This is hilarious.
"Short Leg (Bat Pad)"
"Third Man"
"Leg Slip"
"Mid On"
"Silly MidOn"
Silly midon is my new favorite euphemism for sex.
dude, you just crossed the silly point.
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Actaeus wrote:p314rat wrote:I think you can do this using cricket, and you don't even need to edit the map. Just read the position names and let your imagination soar into the gutter, if I may mix the vectors of my metaphors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crick ... tions2.svg
This is hilarious.
"Short Leg (Bat Pad)"
"Third Man"
"Leg Slip"
"Mid On"
"Silly MidOn"
Silly midon is my new favorite euphemism for sex.
Watch out for the sticky wicket, though.
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honestly, I think the base 2 bit is the best part of the comic. Thank you for clarifying what the bases mean! I've always wanted to know.
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Gotta love the base system.
"Base 2"
Oh great, more bad puns.
"Base 2"
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I laughed really hard at "downloading Star Trek fanfiction and replacing Riker's name with your crush's." That was funny!
Quite a handy chart, though. I never knew exactly what second and third base were (heck I wasn't even 100% sure what first base was either!)
Also, I didn't get "base 2" till coming to this thread. Definitely groaned and almost facepalmed when I realized it.
Quite a handy chart, though. I never knew exactly what second and third base were (heck I wasn't even 100% sure what first base was either!)
Also, I didn't get "base 2" till coming to this thread. Definitely groaned and almost facepalmed when I realized it.
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voxrationis wrote:Magino
You're right, the German's never breached it, they just went around it by way of Belgium. In the diagram, the "Teens" by pass it.
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Where can I get the Spanish version of this? I wanna find out how they translated "tricky" but for some reason the Spanish one names all the comics instead of numbering them.
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So an "x" on the pitcher's mound would imply a threesome with you, your date, and the setup man/woman?
I guess, but more specifically, a threesome with 2 guys and a chick is a double header, right?
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Some of the guys at work today were discussing what third base meant in this system, so I had to print this up and share it. It went over quite well with this 50something crowd who are not very internetsavvy.
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