0601: "Game Theory"

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0601: "Game Theory"

Postby intertubes » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:01 am UTC

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Link: http://xkcd.com/601/
Alt-Text: Wait, no, that one also loses. How about a nice game of chess?

Hooray, the ACTUAL 600th comic! There was no 404, so this is actually 600.

Also, I'll be honest: I don't get it. Again. |:
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby sunami » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:02 am UTC

intertubes wrote:Also, I'll be honest: I don't get it. Again. |:

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:02 am UTC

It's funny 'cuz it's true.


...actually that's not that funny :( The joke is, though.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby ComputerAnalysis » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:02 am UTC

It's so true.

The AI is analyzing the game of love. And the only winning move is not to play at all because there is no way you can win. But if you don't play you also lose.

EDIT: Also I would totally count the 404 error as a comic.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby pimanrules » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:03 am UTC

Great reference and great comic. Maybe even a classic.... perhaps....

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby sunami » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:03 am UTC

'; DROP DATABASE;-- wrote:...actually that's not that funny :(

Sadness can be funny! This comic, I believe, raises the question, "what is love?"
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby omgembee » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:03 am UTC

When you play the game of love, you lose, but if you don't play...you still lose?

Yeah, let's play a game of chess :)

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby explodingviolin » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:04 am UTC

Oh me yarm.
RANDALL, THANK YOU FOR ENCAPSULATING MY PHILOSOPHY SO NEATLY AND EFFICIENTLY. (Hehe, pun on "encapsulating."No pun intended.)
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http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1465
The first panel states something of a similar nature. XD
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby dasada122 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:05 am UTC

I only got to see that movie once it had cycled through to the Movies for a Dreary Weekend. I spent two hours shouting, "It doesn't WORK like that!".
Good comic.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby nomulous » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:05 am UTC

I fail to see how this is related to actual "Game Theory".

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Tath » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:05 am UTC

YES!

A WarGames reference.

(Global Thermonuclear War)

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Megaryuu » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:05 am UTC

Cool comic! It's great because it's true.

Also gonna have to check out that movie now.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby dasada122 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:06 am UTC

sunami wrote:
'; DROP DATABASE;-- wrote:...actually that's not that funny :(

Sadness can be funny! This comic, I believe, raises the question, "what is love?"

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Whyareall » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:06 am UTC

I actually lol'd.

But this raises the question: If said computer played chess against itself, would it also end in a stalemate every time?
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby wizzfizz » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:07 am UTC

sunami wrote:"what is love?"


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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby fenrir_darkwolf » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:08 am UTC

Last comic the andriod girlfriend ditches him, now this... Anyone else think Randall went through some sort of a heartbreak recently?
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby linguistic » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:09 am UTC

sunami wrote:Sadness can be funny! This comic, I believe, raises the question, "what is love?"


Well great, now that's going to be in my head all afternoon.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby intertubes » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:09 am UTC

sunami wrote:
intertubes wrote:Also, I'll be honest: I don't get it. Again. |:

We're revoking your geek card. Please turn it in by Friday's comic.


But I need that! ):

I feel so...un-geeky lately. The last few comics have been ones I haven't gotten immediately. SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH ME. OHGOD. <jumps out window>
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Whynaut » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:15 am UTC

I bet these guys http://xkcd.com/592/ wished they had a computer to analyze love.

As for the movie Wargames, I treat it as a historical record of life before the Macintosh made GUIs became the norm.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Dlaten » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:17 am UTC

Great reference. After explaining this to a few people already I came here to explain it and was glad to to see the fans know 80's geek classics.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby nomulous » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:18 am UTC

fenrir_darkwolf wrote:Last comic the andriod girlfriend ditches him, now this... Anyone else think Randall went through some sort of a heartbreak recently?


Are you crazy? He's the Randall Munroe. God of the internet. You'd be lucky to even know him, what kind of girl (or guy, for that matter) would do anything like what you're suggesting?

It's just another attempt (and I would say, a success) to describe humanity's most mysterious aspect.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Dr._Orion » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:19 am UTC

So, I think we can all conclude from this that:

Love = Global Thermonuclear War

Which means that all the hippies in the world asking for everybody to love each other...

Edit: Whoah, That forum feature that lets you review your post if someone else posts while you were writing it is nifty.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Ocker3 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:22 am UTC

It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby 10nitro » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:26 am UTC

I posted my topic. I then noticed that drop tables also created the topic exactly 5 seconds prior. (the seconds counter was 32, mine was 37). I go delete mine in defeat. Then I come back, and see drop tables' is gone too, an we haver this one created after both ours.

Ah well, the joke wasn't very good.

ComputerAnalysis wrote:The AI is analyzing the game of love. And the only winning move is not to play at all because there is no way you can win. But if you don't play you also lose.


This isn't the entirety of the joke. In the geek classic movie "WarGames" There is an AI (Joshua) who does nuclear war for the US Govt. So all this crazy stuff happens and finally Joshua thinks they are running a simulation, but is online and will really fire nukes a Russia. The movie ends when the make Joshua end the simulation because 'he' realizes you cannot win a nuclear war (there are no acceptable casualties), after being shown that you cannot win Tic-Tac-Toe, says the text, then challenges professor Falken to a nice game of chess.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:29 am UTC

Global Thermonuclear War probably hurts less in the end, but it's also less fun, unless you're into that sort of thing.

Hmm, is Love a halting or nonhalting program?
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby MotorToad » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:34 am UTC

Heh, I saw this was on TV yesterday. I guess Mr. Munroe was watching, too. :)
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby NecklaceOfShadow » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:37 am UTC

My goodness, what kind of freakish alien computer does he have?

Any regular computer would implode after days and days of fruitless analysis.

<3 is too complicated to be done that quickly.

Also, if you lose when you try and you lose when you don't, I might as well go down in a blaze of happiness and hormones. //_^
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby StClair » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:42 am UTC

Ah, the classics of my youth.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Samv6271__ » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:44 am UTC

I don't know why so few people have mentioned it yet ...
but I've DEFINITELY lost thegame.

At least 3 different times while reading this comic.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:47 am UTC

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sunami wrote:Sadness can be funny! This comic, I believe, raises the question, "what is love?"


Well great, now that's going to be in my head all afternoon.

This is the one I was thinking of.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Tillian » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:47 am UTC

pjvandehaar wrote:http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1493
Someone made the same joke a week before Randall. Who knew.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Kain » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:50 am UTC

Tillian wrote:
pjvandehaar wrote:http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1493
Someone made the same joke a week before Randall. Who knew.


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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby reegee » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:55 am UTC

I had to read it throught twice before i went.. hey! that's War Games. doh!
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby sje46 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:57 am UTC

Ahhh, love. I remember the first time I fell in love. I first saw her at the mall, the wind blowing through her perfect short golden silken hair, her long legs bronzed by the warm comforting rays of the sun. I was on a bench between reading Nietzsche and Finnegans Wake simultaneously between a third trimester pregnant woman breastfeeding her newborn and Ray Cormeau, the dashing, handsome movie star who wears sunglasses indoors and has a supermodel pop-singer girlfriend named Candi Love, you know the one, with the blonde hair and huge hooters? Yeah, she was out in the field looking for some field mice to feed them, but that's besides the point, because when I saw Jessica there was nothing else in the world, not even me, except her and my throbbing erection as she slowly floated up out of the water with a choir of naked angels playing harp playing in my mind, the soothing waves lapping at her ankles, cutting away her bikini strings until she stood there, an innocent child in this harsh unforgiving cruel world, naked as the day God made her. It was friggen love at first fright. As she stood at my humble abode she shook the soft fluffy snow from her luxurious purple hair tumbling softly down to her vintage 1972 red Converse shoes.
"Good taste," I said, nodding my head approvingly.
"Thanks, cowboy. Now are you going to be a gentleman and take my coat for me?" Faux fur. She was a vegan as well.
I was quite embarrassed to let her into my little hobbit-hovel of an abode. I didn't want her to see the cat hairs all over the place, to see my pathetic excuse of a house. My fridge is next to my toilet, for God's fakes.
I led her into my palatial living room and offered her some of the finest wine I had. I was quite nervous, you understand. In all my years as an Alaskan Oil tanker drunken driver I haven't seen a woman like her since that bukkake session in high school. You know, the one where she was singing Come Together by that Rolling Stones band and
"Hey!" she whispered into my ear. "Are you looking for an adventure?"
Shaken out of my revery, I took her upstairs to my gold-plated helicopter and drove her five miles to downtown where we hovered softly over The Great Pyramid. Looking at the City of Brotherly Love spread out before us, the sun setting over her delicious eyes. I told her that in all my ears as a drummer for the Greatest Rock And Or Roll Band Of All Time,, I have never seen a woman as breathtakingly indignant as her, save that girl that gave awesome head in high school, you know, during that bukkake session. She nodded approvingly as she took the controls of the helicopter and did a 360 tailspin tail grab, right then and there! How spontaneous! I was falling even in more love by the second! Oh let this quicksand of erotic sexitude wash over my lovelorn husk of a body, swallowing, consuming! Penis! My penis is pining for you, for your passionate platonic embrace!
As we slid down that volcano with the time-traveling Nazis behind us I knew that she was the one. The one the prophet spoke of with his dying breath when Chico stabbed him. I was just about to tell her this when she spun around on one foot and shot flaming grizzly bears out of her bazooka arms and shot them prehistoric Nazis sky high. The expolsion filled the night sky like a barrage of fireworks which we watched safely miles away upon gold-saddled reindeer. I placed my faux-fur coat on the ground so that rudolph wouldn't have to step in the mud. She looks at me and smiled. "This is the most romantic moment of my life", I told her. "Who would have figured that a robot, such as I, would experience this emotion known as love? For I am only a logical machine, and do not understand such illogical human things."
She told me she was pregant with my baby. Brad Pitt Jr, she was planning on calling him.
I was flabbergasted. "They'll hang you! They'll hang the both of us! You know a Jew Montague can not marry an African PRincess such as yourself! The society will disown us! You have a dowry to think of!"
"I don't care if my father is the gosh-darned God of the Sea! I don't care at all!" She threw her crown to the ground, stomping it with her silver heels. "All that matters is love! LOVE! Why can't anybody understand that?"
"Indeed. It is a harsh and unforgiving world, mistress."
I felt the tears roll down my shoulder. I understand what it is like to be so misunderstood. She had no control over the face God gave her. It didn't mean that God hates her that she survived the longest with Harlequin Infant syndrome. I felt the bruises all over her face, the scars running from her eyes to her armpits, pus dripping from her ears. "I don't have long to live", she said. "Teh cancer is eating away at me
I wrapped my faux-fur coat around her wasted shivering shoulders.
"I will revenge your death. I swear on my God, I will revenge you."
"Don't you mean avenge?"
"Shut up you slut." I spanked her with my cock, and she smiled thankfully as he turned me over and thrust his throbbing leather-clad peepee into my tight asian woowoo.
"You've got mail," he whispered into my ear.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Kain » Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:59 am UTC

oddly enough, I have never seen War Games, but I immediately recognized the quote from the trailors for it playing on scifi.

On an off topic note, doesnt it suck when the pre commercial trailer gives away the full plot of the after the commercial show?


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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby TheAbstractor » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:02 am UTC

So "play" and "game" are meant as puns, being used as they are in popular culture?

Might've worked better if the 1st block said "analyze relationships" or "analyze long-term relationships" or "analyze monogamy". But then it would've had a "wah wah wahhhh . . ." obviousness to the punchline.

So stuck between oblique and obvious, Randall chose the option you'd expect him to choose. All in all, Probably the best way to handle the problematic punchline.

/looking forward to more robot-sex themed comics

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby thret » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:03 am UTC

Hardly the same joke, just because they both refer to the climax in Wargames. Epic movie though, that and Sneakers are probably what got me into computers in the first place. Followed rapidly by Neuromancer and Hackers, of course.

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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby Briareos » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:11 am UTC

I find this comic to be extremely hilarious.
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Re: "Game Theory" Discussion

Postby 10nitro » Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:17 am UTC

wizzfizz wrote:
sunami wrote:"what is love?"


Baby don't me... Don't hurt me... No more. :¡This cheese is burning me!:


Gonna grab mah baby gonna hold her tight,
gonna grab some afternoon delight.
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Why wait 'til the middle of the cold dark night.


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