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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby CraigularB » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:36 am UTC

My eyes may have bled a little when I first saw that redesigned homepage. I honestly thought it was hacked and messed with as a prank. Didn't even see the bit about GeoCities.

And unfortunately this also broke the iPhone/iPod touch app I wrote. I know it's my fault it's incompatible (I basically brute-force check for the specific strings I need in the HTML). Still, I hope it doesn't last too long. :wink:

Once I actually got around to reading the comic I had a good laugh though. I don't think I've ever personally had any microwave-induced wifi problems but I see the warnings on the internet enough about how it can cause problems.

Funny stuff :)

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Drooling Iguana » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:50 am UTC

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:53 am UTC

CraigularB wrote:And unfortunately this also broke the iPhone/iPod touch app I wrote. I know it's my fault it's incompatible (I basically brute-force check for the specific strings I need in the HTML). Still, I hope it doesn't last too long. :wink:

The JSON files are still intact, if you were using those, it'd be fine.

Man, the redesign brings back memories... horrible, repressed memories...

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Comic JK » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:54 am UTC

Whyareall wrote:Little-known fact: Wi-Fi stands for Wireless Fireless.


Is that a reference to http://comicjk.com/comic.php/6?

If so...that is very awesome.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby ManaUser » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:02 am UTC

Is it my imagination or is it even rigged to load abnormally slow somehow? Maybe someone is just running a microwave nearby. Anyway, that site design is a masterpiece! Right down the messed up character encoding (you have to view the source to see that one)... ESPA☃ISH
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Qaanol » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:03 am UTC

Awesome website!

But…who makes nachos in a microwave?
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby 6453893 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:04 am UTC

So fitting. Rest in peace, Geocities. You were like the weird kid we didn't like but liked to make fun of behind his back, and then we all feel really guilty when he falls down some stairs.

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Steve the Pocket » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:05 am UTC

I have a feeling this thread is going to mostly be about the site redesign.

I wish I had gotten here at the stroke of midnight; then I could have set up a dedicated thread for that. Alas, I am too late and the damage is done.

That said, dang that was a lot of work for a design that will probably be gone forever tomorrow.

ManaUser wrote:Is it my imagination or is it even rigged to load abnormally slow somehow? Maybe someone is just running a microwave nearby. Anyway, that was awesome! Right down the messed up character encoding (you have to view the source to see that one)... ESPA☃ISH

That's not quite authentic, though; in reality it would be two common ANSI characters. But I like the snowman. I've never seen that one before. Someone needs to just compile a list of all the coolest Unicode symbols in existence.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby CraigularB » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:06 am UTC

phlip wrote:
CraigularB wrote:And unfortunately this also broke the iPhone/iPod touch app I wrote. I know it's my fault it's incompatible (I basically brute-force check for the specific strings I need in the HTML). Still, I hope it doesn't last too long. :wink:

The JSON files are still intact, if you were using those, it'd be fine.

Man, the redesign brings back memories... horrible, repressed memories...

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Thanks for the links to the JSON files! That will make life significantly easier, I hope. Once I actually have time to work on it (I had other tweaks in mind anyway) I'll look at implementing that.

Thanks!
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Mcecny » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:06 am UTC

I quite enjoyed the counter picture...would have been nice to see a real counter thou.

Comic was also quite excellent. Got to love rf interference!

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby XKCD_MechEng » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:07 am UTC

I actually downloaded and viewed this comic in Netscape 4.79
It worked well.

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:10 am UTC

I didn't put it together until the second reading. I'm having a slow day.

Incidentally, I had nachos for lunch yesterday. The cheese didn't burn me. But I did have a chuckle at the Geocities reskin :P
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Steax » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:13 am UTC

Due to my crappy DSL connection, someone attempting this to me would be better off coaxing someone in my house to call a delivery service. Would disconnect me instantly for 15 minutes.

I got a serious shock when I first saw it. I thought I had wandered off to some XKCD fansite that's either really bad or really brilliant...
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby TV4Fun » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:19 am UTC

Good god that web design takes me back to the 90s. I think it's a little too professionally done though. Also, for random nostalgia, http://web.archive.org/web/19980703153458/http://www13.geocities.com/.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby ysth » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:20 am UTC

This comic sucks for two reasons:

    Microwaved nachos are an abomination.
    I'm out of chips. And jalapeños.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby aeris92 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:23 am UTC

wow, the site looks terrific - i love the new style. as for today's comic, do microwaves really affect wifi signals like that?

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:26 am UTC

I think the comic and the redesign are distinct enough that they should probably be discussed separately... I've made a thread for the redesign here.

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby DieJay » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:30 am UTC

Oh. boy... I hate to admit but I found the new layout a lot more entertaining than the comic itself. :oops:

At first I thought it was an Halloween layout, y'know, to make it scary and geeky. Well, it works either ways! As for Geocities shutting down, that's news to me, I didn't know about it at all, but I guess that's for the best. Anyway you can get better free hosting on awardspace.com... the show must go on!

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby phillipsjk » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:40 am UTC

abstractpotato wrote:So she called him to manipulate him into disrupting her friend's wireless signal with the toaster oven so she could kill her in a game. Brilliant!


No, it is not a toaster oven, it is a microwave.

The reason microwave ovens disrupt WiFi is that they both use the same unlicensed 2.4GHz spectrum. The reason that spectrum is unlicensed is that it is absorbed by water, so does not travel far. Edit: Water absorption statement corrected below: Benson
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Max2009 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:28 am UTC

Whyareall wrote:Little-known fact: Wi-Fi stands for Wireless Fireless.

Actually, it's a play on words of hi-fi, High Fidelity and means nothing. There's no such thing as wireless fidelity.

Also, my phone does this sometimes.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Whyareall » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:39 am UTC

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Whyareall wrote:Little-known fact: Wi-Fi stands for Wireless Fireless.


Is that a reference to http://comicjk.com/comic.php/6?

If so...that is very awesome.


Yes, yes it is. Keep up the comics made of awesome... *realises where he is* Randall!
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Stucky101 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:48 am UTC

Man, I wish I could stop using Wifi but my only alternative is running a 100 foot long cable down my hallway.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Kanonfutter » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:29 am UTC

Incidentially, I use wire while wife uses wifi for gaming. Possibilities arise here :twisted:

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby NorthLondon » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:34 am UTC

Loved the late 90's nostalgia of the geocities-style webpage - a bit nonplussed by the comic.

Late 90's internet: Using the old dial-up Compuserve connection to get to on to Netscape Navigator, using AltaVista to search, it taking minutes for a webpage to load... those were the days. Simpler times.

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby soren121 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:00 am UTC

Took me a second to remember that microwaves disrupt Wi-Fi signals. That girl's a terrible gamer; real gamers use gigabit Ethernet.

Also reminds me how chaotic web design was. I would have been ashamed to have a design like that. Shame, Geocities, shame.

At least Geocities has a successor: Myspace. My retinas are still sizzling a little after seeing some page designs on there.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Whyareall » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:14 am UTC

NorthLondon wrote:Loved the late 90's nostalgia of the geocities-style webpage - a bit nonplussed by the comic.

Late 90's internet: Using the old dial-up Compuserve connection to get to on to Netscape Navigator, using AltaVista to search, it taking minutes for a webpage to load... those were the days. Simpler times.


Those were, indeed, the days.

And to those of you who think Geocities was a bad thing and so should be deleted, the creators of the Leaning Tower of Pisa probably thought that their creation was bad (and were probably hell embarrassed by it too,) but it is a piece of history. Geocities should remain as a piece of internet history.
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Postby Shpow » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 am UTC

At the bottom of the site!

"Best viewed in Netscape Navigator 4.7 or better at 800x480"

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Postby Phoenix '97 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:30 am UTC

But how many clicks away was I from the top 69 warez sitez? And where are the CyberThrill Casino ads?
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Klvino » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:33 pm UTC

My microwave takes out my satellite radio. Hadn't checked the effect on my wi-fi, usually standing in front of the microwave when it's on. :lol:
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby ThemePark » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:33 pm UTC

Drooling Iguana wrote:I can't decide whether I should start a Duke3D deathmatch or re-install OS/2. All I know is that I want to party like its 1998!

Makes me wanna play Quake II.

6453893 wrote:So fitting. Rest in peace, Geocities. You were like the weird kid we didn't like but liked to make fun of behind his back, and then we all feel really guilty when he falls down some stairs.

QFT. Much better comparison than the one I made in the other thread.

NorthLondon wrote:Late 90's internet: Using the old dial-up Compuserve connection to get to on to Netscape Navigator, using AltaVista to search, it taking minutes for a webpage to load... those were the days. Simpler times.

Ah, AltaVista. Amazing that it has outlasted GeoCities. I will always remember it for its Babelfish.

Whyareall wrote:And to those of you who think Geocities was a bad thing and so should be deleted, the creators of the Leaning Tower of Pisa probably thought that their creation was bad (and were probably hell embarrassed by it too,) but it is a piece of history. Geocities should remain as a piece of internet history.

I couldn't agree more. GeoCities is, despite/because of its crappiness, a milestone in internet history.
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Postby Cloud Walker » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:41 pm UTC

The "Under Construction" worker looks like he's eating whatever he's digging.
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby tetsujin » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:03 pm UTC

Qaanol wrote:Awesome website!

But…who makes nachos in a microwave?


That was my thought...

Actually, though, I used to make nachos in the microwave all the time. I'd use pringles corn chips, taco sauce, and cheese... worked pretty well. These days I'd make nachos in the oven, though... no question.
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Postby DeadCatX2 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:38 pm UTC

How badly shielded was the comic's microwave? I have no problems with mine and my laptop and router are only six feet away from it.

Why didn't they try changing the channel? Might get less interference. Or move to 5 GHz 802.11n and avoid all that interference? They *did* finalize the spec last month...

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Korbl » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:04 pm UTC

Omegaton wrote:Why the website looks like it is:

Scrolling marquee wrote:GeoCities is shutting down today. To commemorate this, xkcd.com has been redesigned.


I find the web design hilarious and nostalgic.

PS. ARGH, ninja'd! But I agree with the above.

I find it eye-bleedingly horrible... I learned very early on to avoid Geocities sites... both for bad design and shitty content.

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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby neoliminal » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:10 pm UTC

How do you aim a Microwave to best disrupt a wireless signal.... Not that I have an extra microwave or anything...
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby Yakk » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:35 pm UTC

Jokes in the source:
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<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="QBASIC">IF $BROWSER = "IE" THEN GOTO 50</SCRIPT>
INT MAIN(VOID)
{
COUT << "\
<FONT COLOR="#88FF88" FACE="COMIC SANS MS">
<HTML WEB="2.0">
<A HREF="/"><IMG SRC="http://imgs.xkcd.com/XKCDLO~1.JPG" alt="THE INTERNET COMIC WEBRING&NBSP;&NBSP;" />&QUOT; &GT;</A>&nbsp;
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<img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/static/USELES~1.PNG">
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Postby Cynical Idealist » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:05 pm UTC

brianez21 wrote:
Compintuit wrote:Ouch! Check out the validation results:
...But not looking bad for html5;
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fxkcd.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML5&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654 Guess he's actually before his time!
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Not really, the HTML5 parser suicides when it hits the <BODY> tag :roll:

HTML bad enough to make a robotic validator want to kill itself? Now THAT's authentic Geocities coding!
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Re: "Nachos" Discussion

Postby SpringLoaded12 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:49 pm UTC

Ponytail girl is a total noob, can't even score a headshot against Megan without resorting to d/c'ing her? She probably camps, too ("It's a legitimate strategy!"). This comic reminds me of "A Delicious Cycle," from a while back, which I can't link to because I can't find the search box on the page anymore!

The site's hopefully temporary redesign was painful to see, yet made me recall a page I made myself years ago. I guess most GeoCities users don't even go to see what their page looks like?

Now I prefer pure HTML, with maybe some JavaScript and whatnot, but I never bothered to buy a domain. Perhaps I shall, eventually.
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