0665: "Prudence"

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0665: "Prudence"

Postby randall_out_of_my_head » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:00 am UTC

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Title-Text: Moments later, the White Witch rolls up and, confused, tries to tempt the probe with a firmware upgrade.

Love the new direction and the title text! :-)

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Postby J the Ninja » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:02 am UTC

Comic 666 is on Monday...

Also, I really should the Narnia books at some point.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby mania » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:02 am UTC

Taking a couple of seconds to get this one only made me enjoy it more :)

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Belgarion » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:03 am UTC

This is positively brilliant! Brings back excellent memories of the books!
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby hbsmiley7 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:03 am UTC

I should get an emergency rover like that too, in case something happens.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Nasaniaru » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:04 am UTC

I don't know if this is a bad thing or not but by the third panel, I knew there was some sort of joke involving Narnia.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby FlyingCow371 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:04 am UTC

Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Baza210 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:07 am UTC

Absolutely love it. Took me a few moments to realize what the buggy was ... but hey, it's 5AM.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby parity » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:07 am UTC

I registered simply to note that that is a pretty impressive stick-faun.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby rwald » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:07 am UTC

FlyingCow371 wrote:Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?

Exactly, my first thought was "Carter's MALPs were wireless."

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Brooklynxman » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:08 am UTC

Thank you Randall for reminding me to request narnia from my library.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Plamo » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:08 am UTC

Oooh, and thus Stargate was born!
Edit: I just saw how many people thought the exact same thing as me.
I'm also pretty sure they're not just carter's. They were in the original stargate too.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby herm43506 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:09 am UTC

FlyingCow371 wrote:Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?


That or something like the Mars rovers... not the ones that were cross-programmed in metric and standard, the ones that made it.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby gmrple » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:09 am UTC

Narnia rocks! xD

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Omegaton » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:11 am UTC

Love the comic, Narnia for the win!

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby quadmaster » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:13 am UTC

Alright, it s now our duty to design a time machine based on this.

What effect would time dilation have on signals through the wires?

Does the presensce of the robot observer lock that portal in the same reference frame on both sides?

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby McHell » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:14 am UTC

This approach would have mercifully spared us from most of "the house of leaves."

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Gnatty » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:17 am UTC

Love the stick-faun!!

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby rwald » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:19 am UTC

Plamo wrote:I'm also pretty sure they're not just carter's. They were in the original stargate too.

You're right, but since going back and editing my original post would make your post look weird, I won't bother.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby CorruptUser » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:20 am UTC

At first I thought the Satyr was turning around to look at the probe, then realized that he was facing forwards.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Math_Mage » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:20 am UTC

Erm, because of the decoupled time streams, I don't know if the data would travel properly through the wire. Safer just to take a handheld.

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Postby screech » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:20 am UTC

Is it uplifting or depressing that my first thought was "That doesn't work, you can't go through it if you're looking for it"?
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby gmalivuk » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:21 am UTC

McHell wrote:This approach would have mercifully spared us from most of "the house of leaves."

I'm pretty sure you misspelled house...
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:26 am UTC

J the Ninja wrote:Comic 666 is on Monday...

Also, I really should the Narnia books at some point.
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FlyingCow371 wrote:Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby sje46 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:27 am UTC

I think I get the joke, but I got a little tripped up because of the hide and seek. I couldn't figure out what the probe had to do with her hiding. I mean, she's just standing there. Did she just ignore the game, or what? Maybe I just don't get it.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby PhantomPhanatic » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:28 am UTC

FlyingCow371 wrote:Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?


That was my first thought.

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Postby rwald » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:29 am UTC

sje46 wrote:I think I get the joke, but I got a little tripped up because of the hide and seek. I couldn't figure out what the probe had to do with her hiding. I mean, she's just standing there. Did she just ignore the game, or what? Maybe I just don't get it.

That's how the titular wardrobe was discovered in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe: as part of a game of hide and seek.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Emperor_Z » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:32 am UTC

This comic was lost on me. I've never read or watched chronicles of Narnia, so I thought the faun was Satan

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby glasnt » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:37 am UTC

I wonder how the response rate goes since time is slower in the wardrobe...

She'd get the rover to keep going forward, and as soon as she does that, it returns back to her with the entire story replaying back? Given sufficient time within the world before the rover itself decided to retreat (as it can't be controlled outside the wardrobe) then it better have a decent video buffer.


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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby aldld » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:44 am UTC

Emperor_Z wrote:This comic was lost on me. I've never read or watched chronicles of Narnia, so I thought the faun was Satan


I have read some of it, and I also thought the same thing at first, until I noticed the beard. (The devil isn't supposed to have a beard, is he?)

Anyway, the background in the last panel is pretty cool.

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby musashi1600 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:46 am UTC

Am I the only one who heard John Lennon's voice upon reading the title and the first frame?
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby FCN » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:46 am UTC

glasnt wrote:I wonder how the response rate goes since time is slower in the wardrobe...

She'd get the rover to keep going forward, and as soon as she does that, it returns back to her with the entire story replaying back? Given sufficient time within the world before the rover itself decided to retreat (as it can't be controlled outside the wardrobe) then it better have a decent video buffer.


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I suspect that the probe would return with 18 hours of static.
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Postby sje46 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:52 am UTC

musashi1600 wrote:Am I the only one who heard John Lennon's voice upon reading the title and the first frame?

The name and word is forever linked to that most excellent song. The song that has been stuck in my head for probably half the days in the past year.

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Emperor_Z wrote:This comic was lost on me. I've never read or watched chronicles of Narnia, so I thought the faun was Satan


I have read some of it, and I also thought the same thing at first, until I noticed the beard. (The devil isn't supposed to have a beard, is he?)

Anyway, the background in the last panel is pretty cool.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby rpgamer » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:58 am UTC

Emperor_Z wrote:This comic was lost on me. I've never read or watched chronicles of Narnia, so I thought the faun was Satan

I thought this as well. And I've read the book.

The scene just wouldn't click for me. Maybe it's because the wardrobe is in profile, and the door just didn't look quite right at that angle.

The subject is a good one, but the comic didn't do much for me.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby Werewolf » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:01 am UTC

Now it's time to show I have an unusual grasp of references nobody else I know does.
Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?

Yep.

I suspect that the probe would return with 18 hours of static.

And then Lucy would see her father in the video.

Yep! Though the latest and greatest stargate probe is the Kino :D

Not so, the Kinos were in use even before Atlantis. Not latest at all. Incredibly ancient

Anyway, I got this instantly. I read these books many times when I was younger. Is it okay that I thought "Where are Mr Tumnus' packages?" when I saw this?

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Postby Master Gunner » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:03 am UTC

Yet another one here who thought of Stargate. I wonder what would happen if the probe were coded in python and had "import Aslan" in there. Would it come out of the wardrobe on the other side (as it does have transformative properties, hence them regressing in age when they returned) as Aslan?

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby meat.paste » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:18 am UTC

musashi1600 wrote:Am I the only one who heard John Lennon's voice upon reading the title and the first frame?


After singing through "the Beatles" version of Rockband last weekend, I saw the title and I started singing. Then I saw the comic and I was very happy indeed. So, to answer your question, no.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby BlueNight » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:25 am UTC

Master Gunner wrote:Yet another one here who thought of Stargate. I wonder what would happen if the probe were coded in python and had "import Aslan" in there. Would it come out of the wardrobe on the other side (as it does have transformative properties, hence them regressing in age when they returned) as Aslan?


Stargate has an interesting mix of hard, soft, and "sufficiently advanced" sci-fi. I would expect time in Narnia to slow down to our time rate as long as the doorway is open. The wire should ensure this.

However, here you're dealing with an implicitly Christian fantasy by an explicitly Christian author. The prequel, The Magician's Nephew, revealed reality to be a multiverse, over which one God reigns, one Logos incarnates in each universe, and one Spirit moves the hearts of all sentient beings to love each other.

In other words, a probe with "import Aslan" just asked Jesus into its heart.
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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby LSN » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:33 am UTC

FlyingCow371 wrote:Beyond the Narnia reference, anybody else instantly think of the probes sent through a Stargate?

*handraise*

oh, i guess you can't really see my hand among everyone else's...

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Re: "Prudence" Discussion

Postby pgn674 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:53 am UTC

aldld wrote:Anyway, the background in the last panel is pretty cool.
Yeah, it reminded me of some of Randal's finer art.
BlueNight wrote:Stargate has an interesting mix of hard, soft, and "sufficiently advanced" sci-fi. I would expect time in Narnia to slow down to our time rate as long as the doorway is open. The wire should ensure this.
I dunno, did you see the Atlantis episode where Sheppard gets stuck in a training area with a very slow time speed? McKay was able to put a video camera on a stick and hold it through the time barrier. I would think that would put on the same limitation.
BlueNight wrote:However, here you're dealing with an implicitly Christian fantasy by an explicitly Christian author. The prequel, The Magician's Nephew, revealed reality to be a multiverse, over which one God reigns, one Logos incarnates in each universe, and one Spirit moves the hearts of all sentient beings to love each other. In other words, a probe with "import Aslan" just asked Jesus into its heart.
Hah, that was really good. I did not see that conclusion coming, but it does follow.


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