umpatte0 wrote:Does this make sense to anyone else?
No. Malamanteau is the way of the future. Stop trying to make malaprogism happen.
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umpatte0 wrote:Does this make sense to anyone else?
cream wobbly wrote:I love that someone made reference to "real world consequences", as if Wikipedia is the real world...
cream wobbly wrote:... there are longer articles about [some recent works of fiction] than there are about some ... countries
Lathe wrote:... wikipedia sometimes gets massively over-technical or over-precise to the point that the average person has little hope of comprehending ...
Lathe wrote:A related failing with Wikipedia is that it wants to also be where people go learn how to pronounce words, but for Pete's sake are people really expected to understand stuff like /ˌsuːpərˌkælɪˌfrædʒəlˌɪstɪkˌɛkspiːˌælɪˈdoʊʃəs/?
Lathe wrote:A related failing with Wikipedia is that it wants to also be where people go learn how to pronounce words, but for Pete's sake are people really expected to understand stuff like /ˌsuːpərˌkælɪˌfrædʒəlˌɪstɪkˌɛkspiːˌælɪˈdoʊʃəs/? I'm sure that there are valid reasons for using jibberish but the average person is just left scratching their head. Most smart people just go to a real dictionary site since they will get their answer faster rather than expending effort learning Wiki-jibberish. Most programmers look at this jibberish and figure that they've accidently read data past the end of the string.
cream wobbly wrote:I love that someone made reference to "real world consequences", as if Wikipedia is the real world...
Tei wrote:I don't know if the concept is interesting or not, because the deletionism puritans censors have killed the page on wikipedia.
So sad Wikipedia is run by censors now
Erm, that "ad-hoc nonsense" tends to be superior to the IPA in that it's simpler and, at least in the case of Webster, relative and therefore accent-neutral. The IPA is a solution in want of a problem.Asleep or Wrong wrote:that jibberish is the global standard method of phonetic transcription. it is not intended that everyone already know it, but that anyone can look it up and learn the accurate pronunciation.
the dictionaries that you cite use essentially similar systems, except theirs are proprietary ad-hoc nonsense which only cover the spectrum of the language the dictionary uses. nobody's born knowing SAMPA.
Frédéric Bastiat wrote:Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
BioTube wrote:Erm, that "ad-hoc nonsense" tends to be superior to the IPA in that it's simpler and, at least in the case of Webster, relative and therefore accent-neutral.
The IPA is a solution in want of a problem.
Mr. Burke wrote:Tei wrote:I don't know if the concept is interesting or not, because the deletionism puritans censors have killed the page on wikipedia.
So sad Wikipedia is run by censors now
In my days, we called them “editors.”
ludwig_van2 wrote:Let's focus on the real scandal here, please: Randall is trying to take credit for malamanteau, a word that I invented three years ago. My lawyers are drafting some strongly-worded letters as we speak!
DragonHawk wrote:IPA is certainly not pointless.
citation needed
GunJack wrote:Mr. Burke wrote:Tei wrote:I don't know if the concept is interesting or not, because the deletionism puritans censors have killed the page on wikipedia.
So sad Wikipedia is run by censors now
In my days, we called them “editors.”
C'mon Mr. Burke, we all know the difference between censors and editors, and wikipedia is plagued by both.
Mr. Burke wrote:GunJack wrote:Mr. Burke wrote:Tei wrote:I don't know if the concept is interesting or not, because the deletionism puritans censors have killed the page on wikipedia.
So sad Wikipedia is run by censors now
In my days, we called them “editors.”
C'mon Mr. Burke, we all know the difference between censors and editors, and wikipedia is plagued by both.
Censors come from the government (or similar institutions, most notably the Church) and meddle with works published by other people, while editors meddle with work published by themselves. I don't quite see why the latter would be a plague.
bruhinb wrote:"...and the blogosphere will implode."
DragonHawk wrote:I agree with the simpler part. The people at Wikipedia seem to disagree with the "accent neutral" part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respelling I don't know enough about languages and dialects to form my own opinion on the later.
tetsujin wrote:I once wrote up an article in Uncyclopedia about "Port Manteau", a town in Louisiana with a suspicious similarity to New Orleans, a few accidents of history that kept it forever out of the center of attention, and its one widely recognized contribution to the rest of the world (I think you can guess where that bit is going...)
It got deleted because, apparently, it wasn't funny. Maybe just sour grapes here but I thought it was good.
etherknight wrote:Like the term 'nee' for a woman's last name before she married. I have yet to read that term anywhere else, or hear it spoken even once.
Mr. Burke wrote:etherknight wrote:Like the term 'nee' for a woman's last name before she married. I have yet to read that term anywhere else, or hear it spoken even once.
You should visit France (or Québec, whichever is nearer) more often.
Mr. Burke wrote:You're lumping author and editor together. Authors don't publish (neither do editors). The Wikimedia Foundation does. It's their right to decide what will be published; to enforce that right they put people in charge of the editing process (i.e. the admins).
solacelost wrote:Somehow this comic led me to Wikipedia, which lead to me looking at a lot of useless shit, which led to me downloading a PDF copy of the Principia Discordia.
What the fuck?
Lathe wrote:/ˌsuːpərˌkælɪˌfrædʒəlˌɪstɪkˌɛkspiːˌælɪˈdoʊʃəs/?
Kalos wrote:And stop vandalizing, Wikipedia cunts.
dummy account wrote:Uncyclopedia's preference for repetitive inside jokes and administrative fascism over actual humor is well-documented.
neoliminal wrote:Comma in the wrong place.Kalos wrote:And stop vandalizing, Wikipedia cunts.
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