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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Faranya » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:25 am UTC

posiduck wrote:
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Let's take comic 716 for instance. The man in the comic is not an actor on set of a time-travel based movie, he is a real person in a reality where time travel is possible.


The man in comic 716 is actually fictional.

Point taken, but within the context of the comic,he is the man being portrayed, not simply portraying the man portrayed...damn it, your literal focus is ruining my ability to explain my position :D
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Platypodes » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:34 am UTC

DragonHawk wrote:P.S.: Hmmm. In a live act, you could have the bom chicka wow wow porn music play when pizza-guy first enters, then do the needle-pulled-off-the-record thing when pizza-guy and maid see each other. Then repeat the music gag when plumber enters.

Hahaha! That would be great. This idea really would play better as a skit than as a comic.

I'm picturing something like this:
Porn music is playing. First you see a sexy shot of the pizza boy starting up the walk toward the Joneses' house. Cut to sexy shot of the maid at work. Cut to sexy plumber in his truck. Then back to pizza boy coming to the open front door, starting the "hot sausage" line, and he encounters the maid and the needle-pulled-off bit happens... bit of awkwardness between them, then cut to plumber parking his truck with porn music playing again, he gets out, approaches the house suggestively stroking a large wrench, and *vrrrrrrrrt* he meets the confused maid and pizza boy.

The pizza boy could say, "well, since we're here, want some pizza?" They sit down and open the pizza box.

Then the porn music starts up again as we see Mr. Jones deciding to leave the office early... Cut to Mrs. Jones leaving *her* workplace to go home and let the plumber in... Cut to Miss Jones and her three blonde 18-year-old friends heading back to her place because her parents are out... *vrrrrrrt* as they all arrive on the front porch at the same instant.... A few exclamations of "I thought you weren't going to be home today," and they shrug and head into the house... and stop in astonishment as they behold the maid, plumber, and pizza boy in their living room eating pizza, drinking milk, and playing Scrabble.

DragonHawk wrote:BTW, props for the phrase "porn gods". It amused me.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby uncivlengr » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:51 am UTC

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uncivlengr wrote:None of that addresses the salient point: if they were all porn actors arriving for the first time to a set, they wouldn't be already acting their roles.

If they were strippers, though, they would be. Nothing about this strip conveys that they're porn actors, and even if it did, it still wouldn't make any sense.

God damn people, they are not actors, they are people in a reality which behaves as though porn movies were realistic, meaning he is a pizza delivery guy, she is a maid, and he is a plumber, and in the reality of the comic all of those professions result in sex with their clients for some reason.
That does make more sense than them being actors: that they're 'real' embodiments of the cliche. I was addressing the claim of someone else who brought up the idea that they were specifically porn actors, though, so you might save your exasperation for them.

Still doesn't make playing a board game any more amusing, though.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby neoliminal » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:16 pm UTC

If they were real people and not actors, then why would the pizza guy treat the pizza like a prop?
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Problem212 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:31 pm UTC

I actually understood the comic the first time around, pretty good. Can't say that I would've been able to come up with it :D. XKCD wasn't ever very funny, its comics are usually more clever, witty, and interesting than they are funny.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Karilyn » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:34 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Alternately, they're not strippers, they're porn-movie-characters (not actors, characters).

THE ONE PERSON WHO GETS IT

Platypodes wrote:I think it might have played better if, instead of Agricola, they'd picked up something really ordinary like Scrabble or Monopoly. Having it be a geek game with geek references starts a whole train of thought that distracts from the basic funny image of a bunch of porn characters sitting around playing a board game instead of getting it on.

Agree. And lord knows you could make a double-innuendo off of both of those.

Or just an outright awkward moment. Such as when I was playing Scrabble with my, apparently somewhat sexually ignorant mother (BAD IMAGES BAD IMAGES GET THEM OUT OF MY HEAD), who played the world "Dildo" fully oblivious to what it actually meant. She was uh, rather embarrassed when she found out.

neoliminal wrote:If they were real people and not actors, then why would the pizza guy treat the pizza like a prop?

He's a really sucky pizza guy? Wouldn't be the first. All the stores seem to have a mix of super-pro kick-ass pizza-professionals, and random high school drop outs who get in a wreck every other week while constantly getting lost and delivering the wrong pizzas.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby neoliminal » Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:29 pm UTC

Karilyn wrote:
neoliminal wrote:If they were real people and not actors, then why would the pizza guy treat the pizza like a prop?

He's a really sucky pizza guy? Wouldn't be the first. All the stores seem to have a mix of super-pro kick-ass pizza-professionals, and random high school drop outs who get in a wreck every other week while constantly getting lost and delivering the wrong pizzas.


Who plays Agricola? I think not, sir. I think not.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:36 pm UTC

neoliminal wrote:If they were real people and not actors, then why would the pizza guy treat the pizza like a prop?

So that you can see that it's a pizza. Or because he discovered that his hot sausage pizza is not wanted here anyway.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:34 pm UTC

Karilyn wrote:All the stores seem to have a mix of super-pro kick-ass pizza-professionals, and random high school drop outs who get in a wreck every other week while constantly getting lost and delivering the wrong pizzas.

"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby melladh » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:56 pm UTC

I find it curious that I immediately recognized this as a porn setting, but I have never encountered porn with any such porn setting.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby BioTube » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:19 pm UTC

melladh wrote:I find it curious that I immediately recognized this as a porn setting, but I have never encountered porn with any such porn setting.
It's just that cliched.


And since somebody has to say it, I might as well:
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:20 pm UTC

melladh wrote:I find it curious that I immediately recognized this as a porn setting, but I have never encountered porn with any such porn setting.

These "porn settings" are a standard-issue joke at this point. They're a Dead Horse Trope -- making fun of them has become a pattern in itself.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby ritvax » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:49 pm UTC

And then all this sex happened.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DCB » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:06 pm UTC

echoechoecho wrote:I signed up to this forum to make this very important observation.

Is that pizza guy holding the pizza SIDEWAYS?!



One time I bought a few pizzas with a couple friends of mine. One of them had the idea that he was going to run back to his house with the pizza and eat it all before anyone else could get there, but I and the rest of the guys in the group chased him. He started sprinting and held the pizza sideways. When we opened the box the cheese was all in one corner and the pizza had somehow completely folded in half on itself while inside the box. DO NOT HOLD PIZZAS SIDEWAYS.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby djberg96 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:36 am UTC

Agricola? Ick. Power Grid! No, Axis & Allies! No, no, no, World in Flames!

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby aurumelectrum13 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:39 am UTC

neoliminal wrote:If they were real people and not actors, then why would the pizza guy treat the pizza like a prop?


They aren't real people, they're embodiments of porn cliches. Pizza Boy, Sexy Maid, and Plumber. They inhabit Pornland, where the likely hood of getting out of a speeding ticket with sex is high, and a good idea. No one ever eats the pizza in Pornland; the pizza does not exist. The only thing special about the pizza box is, occasionally, a hole, to complete a visual pun with hot sausage. Randall just asked himself What if three porn cliches met up at the same house? What if they enjoyed nerdy board games no one has ever heard of? Would that be funny? And, to a certain extent, it was. Notice that each cliches targets a specific person in the household; a cable guy would clash with the plumber as seeking hot sex with the wife, unless he was younger and interested in the unmentioned son...

Okay, I either watch too much porn, or the English degree is kicking in.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:03 am UTC

DragonHawk wrote:"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."

Music, possibly. Movies, yes. High-speed pizza delivery, probably. Software? What Software?
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:52 am UTC

Monika wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."

Music, possibly. Movies, yes. High-speed pizza delivery, probably. Software? What Software?

It's a quote from Snow Crash.

And the pizza delivery is only done well because the mafia is in charge of it.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby PM 2Ring » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:40 pm UTC

DragonHawk wrote:
Monika wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."

Music, possibly. Movies, yes. High-speed pizza delivery, probably. Software? What Software?

It's a quote from Snow Crash.

And the pizza delivery is only done well because the mafia is in charge of it.

For those who aren't familiar with the Deliverator, here's an excerpt from Snow Crash that gives some background.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby brian0918 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:58 pm UTC

I dreamt last night that I read the most god awful confusing xkcd comic ever created. Then I woke up today and realized I wasn't dreaming, but recalling a memory.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:18 pm UTC

DragonHawk wrote:
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DragonHawk wrote:"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."

Music, possibly. Movies, yes. High-speed pizza delivery, probably. Software? What Software?

It's a quote from Snow Crash.

And the pizza delivery is only done well because the mafia is in charge of it.

I remember. Maybe one of you can check their copy for the italicization of cool.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:09 pm UTC

Monika wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:
Monika wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:"There's only four things [America does] better than anyone else: Music, movies, software, and high-speed pizza delivery."

Music, possibly. Movies, yes. High-speed pizza delivery, probably. Software? What Software?

It's a quote from Snow Crash.

I remember.

When you replied the way you did, I thought you didn't recognize the quote.
Monika wrote:Maybe one of you can check their copy for the italicization of cool.

Replied to the "cool" issue in that thread.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby SirMustapha » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:24 pm UTC

aurumelectrum13 wrote:They aren't real people, they're embodiments of porn cliches. Pizza Boy, Sexy Maid, and Plumber. They inhabit Pornland, where the likely hood of getting out of a speeding ticket with sex is high, and a good idea. No one ever eats the pizza in Pornland; the pizza does not exist. The only thing special about the pizza box is, occasionally, a hole, to complete a visual pun with hot sausage.


The problem is: that interpretation doesn't make any sense. It's inconsistent. Think about it: if they were actual porn characters instead of real people, would they suddenly halt their acting, apologising for a "mix up" and start playing a board game? NO! THEY WOULD JUST START HAVING SEX ANYWAY!! If that was Randall's actual intent, the twist towards "NERDY BOARD GAME!" is not only idiotic fanservice, but it kills the whole joke -- if there WAS a joke there at all.

It makes a whole lot of sense to think that the three characters are hired strippers, who ended up at the house at the same time either by an error of scheduling (look at the TITLE!), or because the whole family accidentally scheduled strippers at the same time (again, the TITLE!).

The thing is -- that joke has potential, but Randall messed up. The board game thing is plain fanservice and doesn't aid the joke, AND the execution is messed up, confusing and bland. The dialogue scheme in the first panel is hopeless; and, I'm sorry, but the stick figures completely kill the joke. The lack of character expressions, visual mood and details show that minimalism isn't always good, especially if it's done badly. And the strip is too small and rushed, there's no pacing. In short, it's a trainwreck of a comic, but the starting idea is actually good. It's just bad art and bad writing.

Remember, kids: doing comedy is hard. If the joke seems to fail, maybe it's not because you're dumb or missing an obscure point or misinterpreting it: maybe it was lack of competence on the artist's part. It happens.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:43 pm UTC

DragonHawk wrote:When you replied the way you did, I thought you didn't recognize the quote.

I vaguely remembered it at the time but could not place it. I should have written "I remember now" in response to your reminder.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:52 pm UTC

SirMustapha wrote:The problem is: that interpretation doesn't make any sense. It's inconsistent. Think about it: if they were actual porn characters instead of real people, would they suddenly halt their acting, apologising for a "mix up" and start playing a board game? NO! THEY WOULD JUST START HAVING SEX ANYWAY!!

I don't think you or I can speak authoritatively on what the people living in porn-world would do. Maybe the porn-people living in porn-world instinctively know their scripts, but the porn-gods messed up, and the porn-people can see it as a mistake.

SirMustapha wrote:If that was Randall's actual intent, the twist towards "NERDY BOARD GAME!" is not only idiotic fanservice, but it kills the whole joke ...

xkcd is full of such nerdy twists. I don't find it surprising to see another one. Personally, I don't think this one worked, but I think that's more because I found the set-up confusing, plus I didn't recognize the game. My not recognizing the game is not a failing in a series known for obscure references. People who weren't familiar with Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood didn't get "Temper"; I don't blame Randall for that, either. If xkcd didn't have a history of obscure references it would be another matter, but it does.

However, since it's apparent a number of people found the set-up confusing, I think it's likely the set-up was poorly conceived and/or executed. That, as you say, sometimes happens.

Of course, a problematic set-up combined with an obscure reference just makes the problematic set-up that much harder to figure out. That's going to be a danger in anything that likes obscure references. I don't think it's avoidable.

SirMustapha wrote:It makes a whole lot of sense to think that the three characters are hired strippers, who ended up at the house at the same time either by an error of scheduling (look at the TITLE!), or because the whole family accidentally scheduled strippers at the same time (again, the TITLE!).

That seems like a valid, workable interpretation as well.

SirMustapha wrote:The board game thing is plain fanservice and doesn't aid the joke ...

That depends. xkcd is full of unexpected segues into geekdom. I think it's generally intended and accepted as surrealist humor when that happens. Perhaps that could be made to work with the porn/stripper/whatever schedule mix-up; perhaps not. However, regardless of whether it *could* be made to work, I don't feel that this comic actually *did* make it work (at least for me). I'm not going to get upset over it, though.

SirMustapha wrote:The lack of character expressions, visual mood and details show that minimalism isn't always good ...

I tend to agree here. Further up-thread Platypodes and I got into a short discussion on this. It does seem like it would work better as a live-action skit.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby nasch » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:03 pm UTC

DragonHawk wrote:Maybe the porn-people living in porn-world instinctively know their scripts, but the porn-gods messed up, and the porn-people can see it as a mistake.


I think if you have to go that far afield to make the joke work, then it's just broken.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:59 pm UTC

nasch wrote:
DragonHawk wrote:Maybe the porn-people living in porn-world instinctively know their scripts, but the porn-gods messed up, and the porn-people can see it as a mistake.

I think if you have to go that far afield to make the joke work, then it's just broken.

I think that, given all the confusion evidenced in this discussion, that's a given conclusion in any event. :)
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby aurumelectrum13 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:40 pm UTC

SirMustapha wrote:
aurumelectrum13 wrote:They aren't real people, they're embodiments of porn cliches. Pizza Boy, Sexy Maid, and Plumber. They inhabit Pornland, where the likely hood of getting out of a speeding ticket with sex is high, and a good idea. No one ever eats the pizza in Pornland; the pizza does not exist. The only thing special about the pizza box is, occasionally, a hole, to complete a visual pun with hot sausage.


The problem is: that interpretation doesn't make any sense. It's inconsistent. Think about it: if they were actual porn characters instead of real people, would they suddenly halt their acting, apologising for a "mix up" and start playing a board game? NO! THEY WOULD JUST START HAVING SEX ANYWAY!! If that was Randall's actual intent, the twist towards "NERDY BOARD GAME!" is not only idiotic fanservice, but it kills the whole joke -- if there WAS a joke there at all.


Responding to the bold, why do you think so? The point of this kind of porn, where random (and improbable!) encounters lead to sex, is to invite the viewer into a fantasy, i.e., the porn cliches have sex with the ordinary people (JUST LIKE YOU!). Without the ordinary person to be seduced, who's to say what the characters would do? Apparently, these three characters have a penchant for obscure, geeky boardgames.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby edbdqt » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:05 pm UTC

One thing hampering this conversation is the lack of proper terminology. Perhaps we should just call them all "sex workers". The pizza guy is the classic "stripper", but the maid and plumber are more likely higher end "prostitutes".

I get the alternative premise this is a bizarro pornworld, but the suspension of disbelief required is just too much for me to buy, especially considering the author's general tone in other comics.

My question is: why are the Joneses arriving home together? (Possibly with/without daughter) I have a preliminary theory -->

Theory 1: Scheduling Errors
My take is that Mr. Jones paid for a sexual encounter with a maid (I assume he was a regular based on the fact the maid had access to the house) that would occur early before the wife got home, not knowing that Mrs. Jones had simultaneously scheduled the same with the plumber. The pizza guy was an actual separate schedule mix-up.

But, there's a problem with that scenario. If you arrived home expecting extramarital sex and found your spouse entering the house at the same time, I would imagine you would stall, stall, stall, and try to get the prostitute out of the house. Given that didn't happen, I'd expect was mutual knowledge of the sex workers being at the house. If that is the case, what is "Mr. Jones" saying "What in the name of..." about?

Theory 2: Failed attempt at scheduling an orgy.
Mr. and Mrs. Jones (there may or may not be a daughter at all) scheduled 3 sex workers, the maid first and the guys afterwards, in the attempt to create an orgy that they would walk in on when they got home. It may be assumed the Joneses thought that the workers would have sex with each other as their services were paid for and these people just love to have sex all the time. Instead of their vision coming true, they found something much more perverse, the workers had raided their closet and started playing a game. The alt text is the workers making an ironic sex joke.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Faranya » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:34 pm UTC

brian0918 wrote:I dreamt last night that I read the most god awful confusing xkcd comic ever created. Then I woke up today and realized I wasn't dreaming, but recalling a memory.

Really? I dreamt that I sang "The one that you want" from Grease in a high school production, despite not being in high school any longer, and then getting trapped out in the rain, evoking Poseidon to stop said rain, and then having a jolly Poseidon come to my house in the form of a half-man half dog centaur.

And you thought this strip was confusing.
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby dummy account » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:33 pm UTC

The problem isn't that nobody gets the joke, it's that everybody gets the joke but it isn't funny. Then they assume that a fairly elaborate set-up such as this wouldn't be wasted on something that isn't funny, so there must be a "real" joke somewhere that is funny. Only... there isn't.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:11 pm UTC

dummy account wrote:... everybody gets the joke but it isn't funny...

If everybody gets the joke, why are so many people in this thread expressing confusion and/or disagreement as to what the joke is?
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby eatcaramels » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:51 pm UTC

I think the aurumelectrum13's explanation is accurate, but incomplete. edbdqt nearly filled in the missing piece, but hadn't played enough Agricola.

Building from aurumelectrum13's comment:

Three porn cliches are scheduled. Pizza Dude for the daughter, French Maid for the husband, and Plumber for the wife. Accidentally, they're all trying to happen at the same time.

Now, for some ARBITRARY reason, none of them can play out their scenario. Hey - let's do something else to kill the time, like play Agricola! It's not at all what we had in mind, but we've got to do something.

And that's the missing piece - the arbitrary reason the scenarios don't play out, is that in Agricola, if your moves are blocked, you have to do something else for the rest of the round.

Perhaps two jokes at once. First, even in adult situations, nerds will find a way to get wound up in logic games and curiosities. Second, Agricola's scheduling rules are the reason that Agricola is being played.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:45 am UTC

eatcaramels wrote:... in Agricola, if your moves are blocked, you have to do something else for the rest of the round...

Wow. This xkcd takes things to new levels of obscure reference. I'm impressed. :)

I think the the set-up is confused, but that explains why Randall went to such lengths to set it up. Thanks for the clue-injection!
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby aurumelectrum13 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:33 pm UTC

Thank you eatcaramels, for explaining Agricola. The most difficult/obscure game I've ever played is Monopoly. :D

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby SirMustapha » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:13 pm UTC

aurumelectrum13 wrote:The point of this kind of porn, where random (and improbable!) encounters lead to sex, is to invite the viewer into a fantasy, i.e., the porn cliches have sex with the ordinary people (JUST LIKE YOU!). Without the ordinary person to be seduced, who's to say what the characters would do?


Let me remind you that we're talking about one-dimensional characters in a pornographic film, who have to basic functions: primary "make-believe" and sex. Anything other than that is already extrapolating the very idea of pornography. Besides, since when a male "pizza delivery person" or a male "plumber" were supposed to satisfy the fantasy of a male viewer? It's the (sad) truth that about 99% of all porn produced is aimed at men. I could accept that the "maid" were supposed to represent a fantasy to the viewer, but if there's no "ordinary person" around, why would she care?

We're breaking down the vert concepts of pornography simply to justify a warped misinterpretation of a comic by Randall. Next thing I know, people are going to say that maybe Randall doesn't attack the heads to the necks of his stick figures because maybe the characters suffer from a rare condition in which their heads pop out of their necks whenever they speak, and that my brother also has that RANDALL GET OUT OF MY HEAD

aurumelectrum13 wrote:Apparently, these three characters have a penchant for obscure, geeky boardgames.


That's exactly what's so stupid about it: it's nothing but cheap and undiluted fan-service, or in other words, geek porn.

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby DragonHawk » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:23 pm UTC

SirMustapha wrote:That's exactly what's so stupid about it: it's nothing but cheap and undiluted fan-service, or in other words, geek porn.

Um... you do realize this is xkcd, right? Are you new here or something?

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby SirMustapha » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:20 pm UTC

DragonHawk wrote:Um... you do realize this is xkcd, right? Are you new here or something?

;-)


Unfortunately I'm not new here. The greatest conflict that bugs me here is: if xkcd is nothing but pure geek porn, why is it hailed so passionately as the most intelligent and genius thing to ever appear in the world since Confucius? Why the desperate need for self-validation that causes such convoluted discussions and people quoting xkcd up and down the Internet to show themselves off as "smart"?

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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby Monika » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:30 pm UTC

You are just envious that you don't have a cool job like this making money by drawing geeky cartoons :P .
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Re: "Scheduling" discussion (#778)

Postby cntrational » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:09 pm UTC

Judging from this thread and the "Savannah Ancestry" thread, you guys are uncapable of understanding simple things.


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