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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Sizik » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:13 am UTC

Actual alt text: Brains aside, I wonder how many poorly-written xkcd.com-parsing scripts will break on this title (or \\;;"\''{\<<[' this mouseover text."
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby zumboorukchee » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:14 am UTC

GOOMHR! Really, I just wrote a XKCD parsing script the other day. It is really weird to see the topic pop up right afterward.

My script is very rough and simple. It just downloads the image and puts the comic number, url, title, and title text in a spreadsheet. The script does not fail to get the correct title and download the image. It does, however, fail to get the correct title text. Not too bad though:

Brains aside, I wonder how many poorly-written xkcd.com-parsing scripts will break on this title (or \\;;&quot;\''{\&lt;&lt;[' this mouseover text.&quot;

I set it up to check and replace any specific ascii characters like &#39; but not the generic &guot and &lt. I should fix that.

BTW, eventually I want to be able to index the comics based on tags like "black-hat-guy" or "computer related" or "raptor." That way I can quickly find comics relevant to a given situation.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Fixblor » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:15 am UTC

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Does anyone else see an optical illusion in a long stream of parentheses?

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

They seem to me to be taller in some areas and shorter in others depending on where you look.
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Re: 0859: "

Postby mdistancerunner » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:31 am UTC

tehol wrote:
I Know Your Name wrote:holy shit I hate it when people do that.

the alt text? or the first time I posted thing?

If it's because I missed the alt text the first time around, I'm really sorry. I honestly just missed it.

If it's my comment on trying to make the comic thread, well... that's what I wanted to do.


He was referring to people leaving an unmatched (..........

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby racoonjwoolsey » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:33 am UTC

*breathes deep*

I can handle this, I can handle this.

This comic's text (which is (An unmatched left parenthesis creates an unresolved tension that will stay with you all day) creates an unresolved tension that will stay with you all day.
this was worse for me, looked more like an actual honest mistake that will break everything...

at any rate, */...JUST IN CASE :wink:

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby darkspork » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:36 am UTC

This brings back painful memories on the TI84. I had a habit of writing incredibly long programs - long enough that I'd have to edit them on the computer and sort of "compress" them for them to fit in the calculator's RAM with enough space left over to actually run the thing. The easiest form of "compression" involved stripping closing characters - quotemarks and parenthesis.

This "compressed" code irritated me just as much as the goto statements peppered throughout for roughly the same reason.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby meh » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:36 am UTC

Five years from now Randall will close this pair of parentheses, and everything inside it will have been a dream.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby StClair » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:42 am UTC

Of an autistic boy with a snowglobe?

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Linux0s » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:46 am UTC

meh wrote:Five years from now Randall will close this pair of parentheses, and everything inside it will have been a dream.

WIN!
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby from canada » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:46 am UTC

considering all the aspies here this is actually pretty mean of him


and yes lazy as hell

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby LynzM » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:51 am UTC

Finally had to sign up so that I could post how evil and fantastic I think this is. :D

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Re: 0859: "

Postby Splattercake » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:08 am UTC

I Know Your Name wrote:holy shit I hate it when people do that.


I hope you mean "pass off a single sentence as a third of a week's work," because it so filled me with indignation that I had to make a forum account simply to make it known. This is an insult to readers. It is suitable as a Facebook status update, not the entire sum of the latest submission of a successful webcomic.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Steeler » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:09 am UTC

Kirby wrote:So in class whenever the teacher is showing us some function on our graphing calculator (like fnInt or somesuch for TI users), she never closes the parentheses, because the closing one is optional, and TIs don't complain. But it annoys the hell out of me.

I'm going to show this to her tomorrow, and she will feel my agony.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby LSN » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:14 am UTC

OH GOD MAKE IT STOP

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Mapar » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:21 am UTC

Kirby wrote:So in class whenever the teacher is showing us some function on our graphing calculator (like fnInt or somesuch for TI users), she never closes the parentheses, because the closing one is optional, and TIs don't complain. But it annoys the hell out of me.

I'm going to show this to her tomorrow, and she will feel my agony.


As a former programmer of these things, I'll tell you why we do that. In large programs, it saves a helluva lot of memory. It used to bother me in the beginning, but I got used to it pretty quick. Nevertheless, unclosed parentheses in written language still annoys me.

darkspork wrote:This brings back painful memories on the TI84. I had a habit of writing incredibly long programs - long enough that I'd have to edit them on the computer and sort of "compress" them for them to fit in the calculator's RAM with enough space left over to actually run the thing. The easiest form of "compression" involved stripping closing characters - quotemarks and parenthesis.

This "compressed" code irritated me just as much as the goto statements peppered throughout for roughly the same reason.


Goto is bad form, even in TI BASIC.

Anyway, I switched to z80 assembly on these calculators after a year, so the parentheses went out of my life.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby GulliNL » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:24 am UTC

Well Randall, if you're so 'worried' about people not writing their xkcd parsing scripts right, you could throw in some sql-injection while you're at it ;)
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Postby HighwoodFool » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:34 am UTC

I64 V8 - 7 FINE|| :P
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:36 am UTC

Lukeonia1 wrote:I'll tell you what's worse though: an asterexasper. Every once in a while* I'll see one, and it'll bother me for hours.

What really bugs me about those is when it's evident that a footnote didn't just get cut out from a longer version of the text (as in your quote above) or the author just forgot to put one in, but that the author (or I suppose "designer" or "marketer" in the cases I'm thinking of) just doesn't seem to know what a trailing asterisk is supposed to be used for. I'll see products that say things like "Made from all natural* ingredients", or advertisements selling "FREE* gizmo with every widget!", with no footnotes. It's as if there is a big segment of the marketing/advertising community who thinks a trailing asterisk just means "not really" or "just kidding" or "covering my ass in case this isn't technically true".

It's easy to see how that semantic shift could happen: trailing asterisks mark footnotes which often qualify the sentences that they are footnotes to, so stupid people who only read ads and product labels might come to see "whatever*" as meaning "whatever (with some qualifications or exceptions)", from which the "not really"/"just kidding"/"C.Y.A." meanings follow pretty readily. But still, it bugs me much less to see people making oversights or omissions than to see U DOIN IT RONG.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby darknut » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:37 am UTC

meh wrote:Five years from now Randall will close this pair of parentheses, and everything inside it will have been a dream.


have you been reading your qwantz
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Pfhorrest » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:49 am UTC

HonoreDB wrote:This comic's text (which is (An unmatched left parenthesis creates an unresolved tension that will stay with you all day) creates an unresolved tension that will stay with you all day.

What bugs me more about this is your lack of quote marks. There is an important difference between use and mention and quotes make it.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby folkhero » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:15 am UTC

Unmatched parentheses aren't so bad, what really bugs me all day are asterisks that have no accompanying footnotes.

Also, isn't the mouse-over text the same joke as the Billy Droptable; comic.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby krabcat » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:16 am UTC

Far from your best comic, I was expecting some witty humor before bed but instead got a strait complaint about minor typos. Oh well i guess not all of them can be great, you must have been busy this week as they have all been short (not necessarily a bad thing). I probably would have switched Wednesday and Friday though, the milking comic seems like a better way to start the weekend.

I am normally a huge fan BTW.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby AL_ » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:43 am UTC

Fixblor wrote:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Does anyone else see an optical illusion in a long stream of parentheses?

))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

They seem to me to be taller in some areas and shorter in others depending on where you look.

A little bit. Gets worse like this?

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby phillipsjk » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:58 am UTC

to above poster: I was going to blame it on sub-pixel rendering and proportional fonts until you pointed that out (I can see it in the large block).

I remember learning in psychology class that our eyes have cells that: (are oddly shaped and randomly arranged in such a way that) edge and motion detection in enhanced, despite limited resolution.


As for the comic, my sentiment was approximately: "Noooooooooooooooo!



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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Tualha » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:04 am UTC

GOOMHR. My bff does that all the time. (Probably explains why she had a hard time in programming classes...) :mrgreen:

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Postby pkuky » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am UTC

Remember when they did it in the princess bride?
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Technical Ben » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:17 am UTC

I have no worries keeping an open mind for the rest of the day. Sounds exciting! :D
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Softfoot » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:22 am UTC

OWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW.
Seriously. My head hurts.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Tualha » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:24 am UTC

meh wrote:Five years from now Randall will close this pair of parentheses, and everything inside it will have been a dream.

I was thinking he'd close it three days from now. OTOH he might never close it (which reminds me of "Little Harmonic Labyrinth", among other things, in GEB).

Meant to leave above parens unclosed but simply could not bear to. :mrgreen:

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby flamewise » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:26 am UTC

Oh my poor brain.

I read the comic, then figured someone would fix it and restore my peace by posting a single ), then figured multiple people would do it creating NEGATIVE bracket SPACE *ouch* that hurt, then I saw what actually happened.... and wondered briefly how to best and dynamically fix that... *OUWIES!* ... I'm off to find a lemon-wrapped gold brick.

I dearly hope we'll get a new Anti-Mind-Virus to fix what this thread did.

PS: Whatever the rest of the postings in this thread, I felt this overwhelming urge for closure and I'm so glad I managed to achieve that while at the same time still going all meta.
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby tjunction » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:31 am UTC

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error: expected ‘)’ before ‘;’ token


My brain can cope with that...

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Noah1989 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:32 am UTC

I am immune to this since I'm familiar with CASIO 9850 Basic where closing parentheses are not needed and therefore omitted to save precious bytes of memory.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Keiji » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:37 am UTC

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while ($paren_depth) {
echo ')';
$paren_depth -= 1;
}


Now we only need to repost this if anyone else posts some unmatched left parentheses :D

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby treblemaker » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:38 am UTC

I felt this overwhelming urge for closure and I'm so glad I managed to achieve that while at the same till still going all meta.


Wasn't it Will Rogers1 who said "I never meta closure I didn't like" (at least, he would have if he

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby VentureFree » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:44 am UTC

Oddly enough this brings the book "Naked Lunch" by William S. Burroughs to mind. At several points in this book there are mid-sentence quick asides that don't appear to have the closing parenthesis. When it finally quits bothering me so much, many pages later, suddenly the closing parenthesis appears and the sentence continues where it left off. (If you ever want to feel like you've taken a bunch of drugs without actually taking a bunch of drugs, read this book.



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Re: 0859: "("

Postby UrielZyx » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:58 am UTC

if you go w/ french lisp you could close all the unmatched parentheses on the page like that ].
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Re: 0859: "("

Postby Isaac20 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:05 am UTC

Why would you do this to me, Randall?

I used to know somebody in IRC that used a script to display what they were currently listening to. It started with a parenthesis, but lacked a closer. They used it for about six months before finally giving in to my daily demands and fixing it.

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby jozwa » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:34 am UTC

This happens when some silly people use emoticons within parentheses, like so: http://xkcd.com/541/

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby RabbitWho » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:35 am UTC

Yay! This is the first really good XKCD in ages. )

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Re: 0859: "("

Postby fizzlnet » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:37 am UTC

Durn...

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      Pattern pe = Pattern.compile(
      "(<div class=\\\"s\\\">\\s*<h1>(.*)</h1><br/>).*(<img src=\\\"(.*)\\\" title=\\\"(.*)\\\" alt.*/>)<br/>");


I wonder if my XKCDArchive android apps scraper will blow up on next update :)


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