0885: "Recycling"

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0885: "Recycling"

Postby LucasBrown » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:01 am UTC

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Troger64 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:03 am UTC

Yeah I never have to worry about this. All the recycling and waste management on my campus is comprised of one big mesh of everyone's garbage. I suppose that wouldn't stop them from judging the college that I live at.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby glasnt » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:05 am UTC

I tear the labels off my bottles, but that's usually the beer bottles, and because I'm drunk.

Maybe he's the same?

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Linux0s » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:09 am UTC

Recycling is a form of social profiling.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Comic JK » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:41 am UTC

The more I've learned about chemical engineering separation techniques, the more blasé I've become about recycling, because I know that to remove (X) they can just do (Y). It's gotten to the point where I don't clean the peanut butter off the inside of the jars.

tl;dr: Chemical engineering education makes you a bad person.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby CorruptUser » Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:44 am UTC

I always thought they melted down the glass and plastic...

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Ego » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:08 am UTC

Prepare your trash as if the person who sorts it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby dragondave » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:14 am UTC

There's a couple of things that irritate me about recycling.

1) Items labelled:
"Body: Plastic - widely recycled
Cap: Plastic - check local recycling
Liner: Plastic - not currently recycled"

So, how am I supposed to tell whether the cap is recyclable or not? Just saying "plastic" isn't useful.

2) Acceptance criteria
Often the terms they use to describe recyclable objects are terribly vague. "Plastic", for example.
So does that include plastic wrap, thermosetting plastics, etc?

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby phlip » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:19 am UTC

Note to self: stop recycling envelopes, and other packaging material with my address on it. Or at least put it in a different bin from the rest of the recycling.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby ijuin » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:29 am UTC

Go buy a cheap shredder and shred anything with your name and address, and then toss the shreds into the paper recycling bin--that's what I do.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby A_of_s_t » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:42 am UTC

Ego wrote:Prepare your trash as if the person who sorts it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live

And here I thought that only applied to programming.

How wrong I was.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Noah1989 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:43 am UTC

I've been in such a recycling center (wanted to proof that anyone can get a job in one day if he wants to). They have a sorting machine anyway. The stuff that needs to be hand-sorted is already mixed and completely unrelated. But it's a really hard job for a thinking person. Because you don't have the time to think about the garbage even though it's so interesting. People throw away things that you didn't even know they existed. You just have to do material and size based pattern matching. And not to forget that it stinks horribly, which makes it even harder. Turned out that sorting garbage is not as easy as it sounds.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby phillipsjk » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:07 am UTC

Ever since my municipality started using a central sorting facitlity, I've started to get recycling fatigue.

The sorting facility is not designed to handle large or small objects. That means no shreddeded paper or bottle caps; even if they are otherwise recyclable. A few years ago I stopped recycling composite materials (made of more than one kind of plastic). On my most recent toor of the garbage dump, we were told they don't actually want to tell us which plastics are recyclable: you are supposed to leave it to the experts to find a market for things other than No1 and No2 plastics.

A no-no that you have to think about: ceramics like PyrexTM are not glass; and are not recyclable (by the same equipment anyway). I also still have a lot a questions about electronic/computer recycling. They are actually breaking them down now instead of storing them; but I hate to think what will happen to all those trace toxic substances with no market.

BTW: that shredded paper gets composted when it goes into the "standard" waste stream.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby vodka.cobra » Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:13 am UTC

I throw everything away. Especially recyclables.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Technical Ben » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:18 am UTC

Comic JK wrote:The more I've learned about chemical engineering separation techniques, the more blasé I've become about recycling, because I know that to remove (X) they can just do (Y). It's gotten to the point where I don't clean the peanut butter off the inside of the jars.

tl;dr: Chemical engineering education makes you a bad person.


This. I sepearate and wash most stuff. But are you honestly telling me they don't clean the trash when it gets there? Or that in recycled tin cans you cannot burn off the dirt?
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Pi is exactly three » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:18 am UTC

They don't know where I live - any paper with my address on (mostly junk mail) goes in the recycling bag after I've torn off the bit with my address. I'm (possibly overly) paranoid about identity theft.

My council does mixed recycling (everything now goes in the one sack, whereas we used to have to separate it ourselves and it went into different hoppers on the collection lorry at the kerbside). We just had a circular from them about the new expanded range of stuff they'll accept (e.g. plastic bottle tops used to be out, now they're OK), and it mentions that waste is separated mechanically. I'm intrigued as to how a machine can tell the difference between, say, thick cartridge paper and thin cardboard, or the different types of recyclable plastic. TV needs to do one of those "How Stuff Works" documentaries on this.

They also threatened £110 spot fines for people who recycle the wrong stuff, but apparently the Government has vetoed that.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby jswf » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:02 am UTC

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is scared about what the recycling people (and the greys and illuminati agents who keep sorting through my crap for details on my activity) know about my habits.

It never occurred to me to tear off the address from packaging.

Note: This post does is not me admitting to breaking any law or doing anything worse than leaving congealed juice in a bottle for as long as you may live.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby lemmings » Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:28 am UTC

"I worry a lot about what the people at the recycling center think of me."

Me- Hey guys, how's it going, I heard you're having a e-waste drive.
Them- Yup, just set it down and we'll go though it
Me- Um, yeah, actually, I was hoping to take some of it off your hands.....
Them- ......
Me- Well, those PSUs can be re-purposed as lab power supplies, and the CD drives, printers, scanners can all be used for their motors, guiding rods, and .....
Them- That's not exactly how this works, you can't do that.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby icebrain » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:32 am UTC

lemmings wrote:"I worry a lot about what the people at the recycling center think of me."

Me- Hey guys, how's it going, I heard you're having a e-waste drive.
Them- Yup, just set it down and we'll go though it
Me- Um, yeah, actually, I was hoping to take some of it off your hands.....
Them- ......
Me- Well, those PSUs can be re-purposed as lab power supplies, and the CD drives, printers, scanners can all be used for their motors, guiding rods, and .....
Them- That's not exactly how this works, you can't do that.


I do something similar: there are some e-waste specific "bins" near my house. Did you know that people throw away printers with perfectly good stepper motors? And VCRs from which you can build a nice jog wheel[1]?

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby J L » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:33 am UTC

I worry a lot if something like recycling centers really exist.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby scotty2haughty » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:37 am UTC

Don't recycle paper, period. I'm sure its controversial, but from what I have seen, throwing paper into a landfill and letting it decompose or get incinerated is better than having it bleached and recycled and turned into new paper. Just think about how many trees they have to grow (trees=good) to replace the paper we use.
Though, recycling plastic and metal is good. Oil (crude and bio) is in high demand these days.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby feyayeruka » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:38 am UTC

apparently in my area if the recycling bin is too contaminated by non-recyclables, they just send the whole bin-full to landfill anyway.

another option is to simply hoard everything in your home.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Plasma Man » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:14 pm UTC

I'm about to embark on my first attempt at composting, so will be attempting to turn the vast majority of my junk mail into nutritious plant food (and then into real food, provided I can grow it). Otherwise, I recycle everything there are local facilities for: Paper, cans, glass and plastics. I even save my dead batteries and put them in the special bins some shops have.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby iChef » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:29 pm UTC

I wouldn't worry about a bit of juice in a bottle. You have no idea the kind of weird crap people recycle. On the magazine line you find porn. Tons of porn, not just Playboy and Penthouse either. Sick Twisted porn that no one ever thought existed. Stuff like middle aged amputee latina babes and the over sized vegetables they love. Its like they took the sickest shock porn off /b/ and printed it into a magazine. We would find these things everyday and that's just 1 recycling center in 1 town. These people seriously need to get the internet it's way cheaper than buying a bunch of magazines.
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby not baby Newt » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:32 pm UTC

scotty2haughty wrote:Just think about how many trees they have to grow (trees=good) to replace the paper we use.

I fear they might be out of places to grow trees. Either there are trees already, or someone's growing wheat. Or desert.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby squig » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:23 pm UTC

dragondave wrote:There's a couple of things that irritate me about recycling.

1) Items labelled:
"Body: Plastic - widely recycled
Cap: Plastic - check local recycling
Liner: Plastic - not currently recycled"

So, how am I supposed to tell whether the cap is recyclable or not? Just saying "plastic" isn't useful.

2) Acceptance criteria
Often the terms they use to describe recyclable objects are terribly vague. "Plastic", for example.
So does that include plastic wrap, thermosetting plastics, etc?


In The UK I believe it is a legal requirement for plastics (certainly packaging) to have the type of plastic embossed onto the item itself.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby ProverbialNoose » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:29 pm UTC

J L wrote:I worry a lot if something like recycling centers really exist.


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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Moose Hole » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:48 pm UTC

I don't recycle, I reuse. For example, I wear a hat made out of old cans and bottles, and I fixed my broken car window using a pizza box. The rest is in the garage just waiting to be reused!

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby BAReFOOt » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:09 pm UTC

PROTIP: Nowadays, automated waste separation is not only better, but also cheaper, than humans doing it.
And this comes from the boss of a big German recycling plant, I saw being interviewed on TV, nearly 8 years ago.
They simply shred everything to tiny particles, and then sort them by (I forgot the name of that system) flinging the particles sideways, so that depending on their mass, they fall into different holes. If you do this often enough, you have better separation than any human could ever do.

In fact, that boss also stated, that the whole “Grüner Punkt” (“green point”, government recycling) program we have in Germany, has already been driven ad-absurdum by this. Since it’s pointless to let people separate waste manually, if you are, and have to, separate it again with machines anyway.

So don’t feel bad if you throw everything in one container. If they want it sorted, then it will be sorted nonetheless.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby thevicente » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:11 pm UTC

"A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language."

I dont want to look like I'm whining, and I admire the author's past work and admit I couldn't do better, but I'd like to point this comic had nothing of that. It also wasn't funny. I'm sure the next one will be better.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby BAReFOOt » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:24 pm UTC

A_of_s_t wrote:
Ego wrote:Prepare your trash as if the person who sorts it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live

And here I thought that only applied to programming.
How wrong I was.


You’re still both wrong. In that you have no balls and no spine. ^^
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby mearly87 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:35 pm UTC

Ego wrote:Prepare your trash as if the person who sorts it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live


In my town everyone who works at the recycling center is doing community service, so they all do have criminal records. I don't think you get community service if your a homicidal maniac though..

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Postby alexriehl » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:38 pm UTC

mearly87 wrote:
Ego wrote:Prepare your trash as if the person who sorts it is a homicidal maniac who knows where you live


In my town everyone who works at the recycling center is doing community service, so they all do have criminal records. I don't think you get community service if your a homicidal maniac though..

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby AvatarIII » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:38 pm UTC

thevicente wrote:"A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language."

I dont want to look like I'm whining, and I admire the author's past work and admit I couldn't do better, but I'd like to point this comic had nothing of that. It also wasn't funny. I'm sure the next one will be better.



i believe todays comic fell under "sarcasm"

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby kzrssk » Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:49 pm UTC

And here the first thing I thought was, "This is going to be a River Tam reference, isn't it?" I don't know if I'm let down or not, haha.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby enumerated powers » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:01 pm UTC

ProverbialNoose wrote:
J L wrote:I worry a lot if something like recycling centers really exist.


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thevicente wrote:"A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language."

I dont want to look like I'm whining, and I admire the author's past work and admit I couldn't do better, but I'd like to point this comic had nothing of that. It also wasn't funny. I'm sure the next one will be better.


I like to think of the list as more broadly including technology (there's certainly some computing, physics, scientists and their behaviors, etc. from time to time).

I thought it was funny - we're all different.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby SteveW » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:04 pm UTC

Hmmm, is it really worth worrying about what the "I sort glass, it's my job" guy thinks? Wow, I haven't thought about that PSA in a long time.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby Coffee » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:06 pm UTC

First thing I thought when I saw the bit about peeling the labels off the cans was "So we'll have a few mystery meals..."
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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:11 pm UTC

I think Randall should just drop the "tagline" altogether -- it doesn't mean anything, anyway, since Randall makes comics about whatever the hell he feels like. The tagline is just another thing that makes xkcd seem strict and formulaic when it's not.

I don't think the comic wasn't very funny, but I don't think the problem was with the joke itself. I think the execution doesn't really match the joke; if the point is the absurdity at someone "analysing" someone through his trash, the comic just presents a jumble of information that only makes things confusing. The stilted dialogue doesn't help, either.

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Re: 0885: "Recycling"

Postby TheDoctor » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:13 pm UTC

...until one day he finds out that the recycling man himself is the man who tears off the labels meaning he is stuck in some half-baked fantasy and the government is breaking into his mind because it contains the codes to get into an ancient pirate ship run by Johnny Depp and Matt Damon for no reason. then Liam Neeson comes out of nowhere and shouts TAKEN!!!!! a bunch of times and Johnny Depp drop kicks him to the face after drinking some rum. This then leads them to the deep lair of the dragon and they are all eaten. The man awoke in a fever, his bed clothes all soaked in sweat, she told him he was having a nightmare...and it's not over yet. The next morning he went back to his recycling job...never to judge another persons recyclables again.

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