JohnMcL7 wrote: Flambino wrote:
Anyway, it still doesn't really resolve the issue of what a parsec actually is in the Star Wars universe, since we base it on our Sun and Earth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec)
I suppose a Star War parsec must be a helluva lot smaller than the 19 trillion miles we use. Otherwise 12 parsecs is an, well, astronomically large distance. It doesn't exactly take a talented pilot or a good ship to miss
something by 228 trillion miles
No, he made the entire run in 12 parsecs not trim the run by 12 parsecs therefore another fast ship may have taken a route just 0.1 parsecs longer.
Ok, that might be it, but I thought the entire point was how close he came to this Maw thing, not how long the entire route was. Also, I still
don't know what a parsec eqautes in the Star Wars universe, much less what 12 of them add up to. So you're assuming that it is indeed something like 228 trillion miles, and thus it must be the entire journey. Honestly, I'd let it go, if you'd said "in Star Wars, a parsec is based on the blah-blah and roughly equavalent to X miles" and so it'd all make sense. In fact, I would even have accepted "In Star Wars, 1 parsec is equal to 1/12th of what The Millenium Falcon can do the the Kessel Run in" however circular that is
(Apologies for ending that sentence with a preposition)
Eitherway, I thought the entire dialogue in the cantina was about the Millenium Falcon's amazing speed
, so technically Han should be boasting how he took the longest
, most leisurely route yet still arrived in time. Ok, the speed would allow him to fly even closer to the black holes without getting caught by them, sure, but if you go that route (discussion-wise) a slower yet more massive ship could make the same trip in the same time by staying a little farther away... and so we're back to it really being about time taken fra A to B; i.e. that time is what matters in doing the Kessel Run and that's what you brag about. And so, you'll likely to stay safely away from the Maw if you're fast enough that you'll still make good time. Or, if you do go close and fast, then again the bottom line would be how long it took you. So Han seems to be bragging about distances when the times are what's important - which is just an odd thing to do. Like saying "I run a 4-minute mile in 2 miles" - umm... ok?
But if we're back to it being about time taken, then, once again, the simplest explanation of Han's use of the word "parsec" is that Lucas was talking - or writing, rather - out of his ass. It really is the simplest solution to all of this. Although I'll admit that this rationalization'ing stuff is great, pointless fun
(None of the above is meant to be mean-spirited, by the way. Well, some of it is, but only toward mr George Lucas. And I'm sure the parsecs thing has been settled long ago by proper Star Wars experts - which I ain't! - but I just couldn't help myself)