0893: "65 Years"

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby andyfrommk » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:34 pm UTC

Sad news I'm afraid
http://news.sky.com/story/977119/astronaut-neil-armstrong-dies-aged-82

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby davepc » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:41 pm UTC

Yes, just remembered this comic. I wonder how close the prediction was.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Daimon » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:28 pm UTC

andyfrommk wrote:Sad news I'm afraid
http://news.sky.com/story/977119/astron ... es-aged-82


I was just about to post that.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby SpeedEvil » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:36 pm UTC

Me too.

I wonder about a little red line on the comic updating.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby acd » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:22 pm UTC

davepc wrote:Yes, just remembered this comic. I wonder how close the prediction was.


that was not a prediction, but an estimation of probabilities, based on past general demographic data.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby mfb » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:47 pm UTC

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Soupspoon » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 pm UTC

Guess what I was just about to post, after hearing this whilst driving.

Doing better than the mid-point estimate, which is a good thing. But beware of reversion towards the mean.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby moody7277 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:57 pm UTC

And it looks like we're right on schedule. Curse you actuaries and your depressing statistics!
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby mfb » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:13 pm UTC

Astronauts have better than average healthcare and they were selected for not having any health problems when they became astronauts. I don't know if the graph takes that into account.

6 left:
Harrison Schmitt, 81
Charles Duke, 81
David Scott, 84
Alan Bean, 84
John Young, 86
Buzz Aldrin, 86 <- will get 87 in 3 days

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby DanD » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:19 pm UTC

mfb wrote:Astronauts have better than average healthcare and they were selected for not having any health problems when they became astronauts. I don't know if the graph takes that into account.


But they also tended to be test pilots, with the associated lifestyle (hard drinking, hard partying, etc). And even after they grew out of that, they do have some additional radiation exposure, not just from the space flight, but from their time as pilots as well. Their cancer risk is probably a decade or so higher than their chronological ages. Plus, of course, the still not fully understood long term health effects of microgravity (admittedly for much shorter durations than many modern astronauts).

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby patzer » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:04 pm UTC

John Young has sadly passed away.
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby HES » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:28 am UTC

So far we're consistently one death behind... which one of them was secretly replaced by a robot?
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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby mfb » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:33 am UTC

We are following the line quite closely. :(

Harrison Schmitt, 82
Charles Duke, 82
David Scott, 85
Alan Bean, 85
Buzz Aldrin, 87

We also have 8 people (alive) who flew around the Moon without landing.
Frank Borman, 89
Jim Lovell, 89
Bill Anders, 84
Tom Stafford, 87
Michael Collins, 87
Fred Haise, 84
Al Worden, 85
Ken Mattingly, 81

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby rmsgrey » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:23 pm UTC

HES wrote:So far we're consistently one death behind... which one of them was secretly replaced by a robot?


We're well within the projected error bars still.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby cct » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:17 pm UTC

The graph shows the expectations for a group of 9 average American males. The 9 specific males were, in fact, a select cohort.

I think the evidence is starting to suggest that the space program selected astronauts for qualities that have translated to slightly longer life spans than average - for those astronauts who didn't die in the course of their work.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Old Bruce » Sat May 26, 2018 11:11 pm UTC


This makes me sad too.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby mfb » Sun May 27, 2018 3:50 am UTC

:(

Four left:

Harrison Schmitt, 82
Charles Duke, 82
David Scott, 85
Buzz Aldrin, 88

And still 8 people who flew to the Moon without landing. In total 12 people alive who ever left low Earth orbit.

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Re: 0893: "65 Years"

Postby Soupspoon » Sun May 27, 2018 10:10 pm UTC

(I wrote the following in response to something on the Obituaries thread, but it really should have been here. It doesn't need much to work out what point I'm replying to, hopefully.)

I was wondering if we'd get a "send old people to Mars, one-way trip" mission off the ground (and out of orbit, which is the next step), and of course what better old people to send than old astronauts with extraplanetary experience under their space-belts?

The trouble being that it won't stop the Apollo-footers from dying off (maybe a small chance of less stress on Mars, but far more countered with loads of opportunity to hasten their demise, and takes them away from Earthly healthcare even if they just deteriorate 'normally') and then we end up with no-one left alive who has been to the Moon and no-one alive who has been to Mars.

Really, to stop the reversion to zero living people having been anywhere but Earth (and, when we run out of the 'next best's as well, orbits other than Earth's) we need to get someone back to the Moon.

2019 is 50 years since we first got to the Moon. At one point I was very definite that someone would commemorate this by landing back there again. I don't care if it's Branson/Musk/Soros/Elvis/Mickey Mouse, we should do it. (Trump? Can we send Trump there? Just send, obviously.)

Anyway: Random link, not the best news source, but came up in my random search earlier:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... -moon.html


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