0910: "Permanence"

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0910: "Permanence"

Postby Richard. » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:06 am UTC

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Alt text: This hostname is going in dozens of remote config files. Changing a kid's is comparatively easy!

Caroline might be a good server name...
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby xmillion » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:07 am UTC

I keep doing this every time I create a new city in Sim City.

Never know what to call it...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby jspenguin » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:08 am UTC

Name the server GLaDOS, then Caroline can be a virtual machine running on it.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Crisco » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:10 am UTC

I had the exact same problem when I needed to enter a name for the PSN network. Took me a few days before I found something I was happy enough with and wasn't taken.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby EvanED » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:11 am UTC

Have a scheme. I'm going through early NASA astronauts. Each time I install a new OS (including on a VM), it gets a new name; I'm about halfway through Apollo, though not necessarily sequentially. My current main system is named "Anders".

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby DanielLC » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:13 am UTC

This reminds me of when I named my computer. I really should have consulted someone who knew Latin. I named it Machina Ex Deus, which, from what I understand, is just Deus Ex Machina with different emphasis. Anyone know how to say "the Machine from God"? I probably should have just called it Deus Est Machine (God is the Machine).

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby darkspork » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:16 am UTC

jspenguin wrote:Name the server GLaDOS, then Caroline can be a virtual machine running on it.

Way ahead of you. My computer's been named `glados' since 2008 and `caroline' seemed an obvious fit for the dual-boot I set up recently. I also have `wheatley' in the basement.
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Qwert » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:19 am UTC

DanielLC wrote:This reminds me of when I named my computer. I really should have consulted someone who knew Latin. I named it Machina Ex Deus, which, from what I understand, is just Deus Ex Machina with different emphasis. Anyone know how to say "the Machine from God"? I probably should have just called it Deus Est Machine (God is the Machine).

Pretty sure that would be machina ex deo though its been a while since I took Latin.

Latin has endings for both verbs AND nouns, so word order matters less. You have to change deus (God) from the nominative (subject) case and put it in the ablative case (in this case to make it the object of the preposition ex). You don't change machina (machine) because its ablative and nominative are spelled the same, though pronounced differently.
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby iabervon » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:20 am UTC

I've replaced all of the hardware in my server at least once, got rid of Windows, changed the distro, switched MTAs twice, IP addresses twice, and domain name once. But the hostname is still the original hostname.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Farabor » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:27 am UTC

DanielLC wrote:This reminds me of when I named my computer. I really should have consulted someone who knew Latin. I named it Machina Ex Deus, which, from what I understand, is just Deus Ex Machina with different emphasis. Anyone know how to say "the Machine from God"? I probably should have just called it Deus Est Machine (God is the Machine).


The verb goes at the end, and yeah, you'd need to change your tenses. The actual original expression is Deus ex Machinae (The -ae making it the right ending). If you wanted The machine of god, it'd be...Machina Dei, I believe. Not sure on the proper tense for Deus for God is the machine, but it'd be something like Machina Dei Est. (With the -i ending of Deus probably wrong, needs...ablative, I think, and -i is genitive..._I think_...depends on whether Deus is 2nd or 5th declension....)

Okay, it's been WAY too many years since my high school Latin :)

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby muntoo » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:31 am UTC

He should name it Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;--

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby glasnt » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:34 am UTC

I have to admin windows servers with names like "Poop" and "Turd".

The linux machines get all the cool names :(

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Brooks Hatlen » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:37 am UTC

glasnt wrote:I have to admin windows servers with names like "Poop" and "Turd".

I have a friend who uses names along those lines if he has to save a file on his desktop temporarily, or throw a subject on an email. I use asdf...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Eternal Density » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:44 am UTC

Caroline, Caroline Caroline. Why do I know this woman? Did I kill her?
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby pretzil » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:47 am UTC

Hmm, Dilbert did a server name comic today too...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby syko_lozz » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:48 am UTC

haha total GOOMHR moment
Am currently trying to decide on a) what to name my child b) whether I think I should have an epidural
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby LSN » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:51 am UTC

I used to have this problem whenever I got a new device that wants a nickname. I've settled on a Doctor Who theme.

Router: previously "Bad Wolf", now "Blaidd Drwg"
WiFi-enabled printer/scanner/copier: Sonic Screwdriver
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby doggitydogs » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:59 am UTC

Then, during Ethernet configuration, you need to pick a private IP... AND FTP PORT!

Some ideas:
10.10.10.10:10
10.11.12.13:14
192.168.0.168:192
10.9.8.9:10
10.90.20.10:6080 (a play on 192.168.x.x range)
192.168.144.120:96
192.168.192.168:292
172.16.172.16:172
10.20.30.40.50
10.11.100.101:110
10.83.82.86:83 (think about that one for a while)
I wonder if you can set something as 10.0.0.0...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby WestfW » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:14 am UTC

Psh. Trivial. Coming up with THEMES for a group of servers is the tricky part.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby furgle » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:21 am UTC

Anything other than greek gods and I'll be happy. If I find another mail server called Hermes or some such I'll suggest naming servers after dinosaurs just to make life difficult for those who have trouble spelling: "PACHYCEPHALOSAURUS" anyone ?

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby glasnt » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:29 am UTC

LSN wrote:I used to have this problem whenever I got a new device that wants a nickname. I've settled on a Doctor Who theme.

Wii: Osterhagen

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WestfW wrote:Psh. Trivial. Coming up with THEMES for a group of servers is the tricky part.


That's easy. Last place I was had obscure elements (e.g. cobalt, bismuth). Current place is nautical. CTHULHU!

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby thenonsequitur » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:30 am UTC

@furgle, I actually just got a new computer, and when deciding on a name I eventually settled on "astrodon", which is actually a dinosaur, the coolest dinosaur name I could find.

I know someone who names all his machines after the scientific names of various mushrooms. amanitamuscaria. bovista.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby FuturDreamz » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:34 am UTC

I usually just use the hardware followed by the OS
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VirtualBox-Win-7
Compaq-C4280-Win
iMac-DV-OSX
D356-Pro-Ubuntu

Makes it easy to figure out which server is which quickly.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Woolly Mittens » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:36 am UTC

Every network needs to have at least one server named: "Uranus Hertz".

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby jughead » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:42 am UTC

I thought I'd drop in to say 'caroline' is an exellent sever name. If it became self aware and went rogue Caroline would be an exellent identity to destory humanity

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby qvasi » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:53 am UTC

Wouldn't "Epidural" be a nice name for a server?
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby memcginn » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:54 am UTC

jspenguin wrote:Name the server GLaDOS, then Caroline can be a virtual machine running on it.

Walked in to make this connection.

Honestly, I should have expected to be late to the obvious Portal comment.
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Qala » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:57 am UTC

LSN wrote:I used to have this problem whenever I got a new device that wants a nickname. I've settled on a Doctor Who theme.

Router: previously "Bad Wolf", now "Blaidd Drwg"
WiFi-enabled printer/scanner/copier: Sonic Screwdriver
Wii: Osterhagen

We use that scheme too. They introduce new characters at about the rate i need new hostnames.

Server with big Storage: "tardis" (bigger on the inside)
Workstations: "doctor" and "badwolf"
Wifi Accesspoint: "k9" (because it looks a bit like him, with the antennae)
Old bastardized PC: "ood" (because it looks like one too)
Printer: "vincent" (obviously)
Several generations of mobile devices: Jenny, Rory, Amy, River, Jack, Mickey

Next gadget i buy will be "canton", or - if passively cooled - "silent". ( :mrgreen:)

Internet servers are called Scrat, Ellie and Diego. We once had Sid and Manny too :)

PS: It's weird to even see those familiar (lowercase) hostnames capitalised.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby s0merand0mdude » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:05 am UTC

I have the same problem with MineCraft maps. I can't believe that game just expects me to name those off the top of my head like that. I'm on a recent trend of Beatles songs, though.
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Scaraban » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:50 am UTC

My original Xbox took the decision out of my hands and had the nickname "Saucy"...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby iain_benson » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:18 am UTC

Then there is the option of the system they use to name the machines where I work which is a code indicating the site, followed by S,D,L or P for server, desktop, laptop or printer, and finally the asset tag, so my printer would be (for example) \\mancs123456\mancp654321 and my home directory is on \\yorks321654

I'm not sure what happens if a piece of hardware dies and needs replacing - will the name change and suddenly we have to remap everything, or do they reuse the old asset number on the replacement hardware?

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby snowyowl » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:25 am UTC

iabervon wrote:I've replaced all of the hardware in my server at least once, got rid of Windows, changed the distro, switched MTAs twice, IP addresses twice, and domain name once. But the hostname is still the original hostname.

You didn't call it shipoftheseus by any chance, did you?
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby MathUhhhSaurus » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:19 am UTC

I have this problem on the rare occasions that I play pokemon games. Usually, I'm just lazy and don't name them at all, but sometimes I'll feel bad so I'll try and come up with something creative and fail miserably.

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby tjunction » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:49 am UTC

You have all read RFC 1178, right?

I use rivers, usually ones local to where I live. The names of my devices show how I've moved around the country over the years...

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby ZoeB » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:10 am UTC

Let's see - Gigantor, Astroboy... no details, that was on a military net.

HAL, SkyNet, Colossus of course.

Magrathea, SantraginusV, Frogstar...
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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby JamusPsi » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:30 am UTC

FFVI town names, here. So like, Figaro, Doma, Narshe, Zozo, Thamasa, Tzen, Veldt (not a town, I know..) Probably because of the limited spacing for naming things, most of them tend to be short and surprisingly easy to type.

It seemed at the time like there were an awful lot of them, but I'll probably graduate to FFVII-FFX pretty soon.

Edited to add:

My main rig has been in use for 14 years, since I was 12 years old. I can play Portal 2 on it because it's been upgraded, many, many, many times, bit by bit. It's on its third or fourth case, sixth or seventh mainboard, countless hard drives and disc drives, fourth or fifth PSU. I used to joke that it was my zombie computer, and that it was "The same" computer even though it had none of the same parts as the original. Then I figured out that it does: a floppy drive, from the original old.. gateway, I think. Still hooked up, but it probably doesn't work.

It predates my naming scheme, and I was thinking about maybe someday updating it eventually. Thanks to an above poster, I think it's obvious that I should name it Theseus. Thanks!

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Pudabudigada » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:52 am UTC

I had no trouble naming my Ubuntu box. I've reinstalled GRUB nine times this year already, rendered several kernel versions un-bootable (proprietary graphics drivers- just say no!), and 11.04 has broken my sound and introduced a problem with installing SAMBA. I basically noticed that whenever it's turned on, something bad happens. I've called it 'Black Widow'. :P

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Waterhouse » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:57 am UTC

Pretty funny, but, I have to say that an epidural isn't at all mind-altering, which I think was the gist of the punchline. It's just a pain signal blocker that they place part way down the spine so that labor pains won't be able to make it up to the brain. It doesn't cause euphoria or impaired cognitive function. Not that I had one, or anything, it was... for a friend.

Also, while we're here - lactation... happens. Randall should go have a baby and learn some stuff first-hand. "Let's get empirical, baby."

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby Taot » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:10 am UTC

Back in the day I think 30-50% of installation time for my own machines used to about deciding the name. Until I settled on a theme and have thus far not exhausted it: Duckberg ( Donald Duck ) sights and neighbouring cities work well. Also, it seems, that after around 20 years, most friends seem to have figured out who was once again let to name the Wifi Network in place X.

I fondly remember the 1st time (with anyone "normal") I had a conversation about naming machines/phones/anything with my then girlfriend. :D

-"You give names to computers?" *Incredulous stare*
-"Yeah, of course, that is not just any computer" *Genuinely puzzled and a bit hurt*

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Re: 0910: "Permanence"

Postby RogerB » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:11 am UTC

tjunction wrote:I use rivers, usually ones local to where I live. The names of my devices show how I've moved around the country over the years...


We must have worked at the same place, though we had the added twist that the servers were named after seas (Red, Black, Caspian, you get the idea).

Of course the computer name you ended up having to type in most often was Brahmaputra! (or was it Bramahputra).


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