0953: "1 to 10"

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0953: "1 to 10"

Postby jpk » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:33 am UTC

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Alt text:"If you get an 11/100 on a CS test, but you claim it should be counted as a 'C', they'll probably decide you deserve the upgrade."

The correct answer is "That's the stupidest question anyone's asked me all day". Doesn't matter what time it is, it'll be true. 1100100 percent of the time.
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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Tirian » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:35 am UTC

:| The answer's 10 no matter what base it's in, isn't it?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:39 am UTC

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world...
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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Brooks Hatlen » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:40 am UTC

You would be able to tell by whether she said ten or one-zero.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:47 am UTC

Why is she talking about binary and then pretending not to know what 4 means?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby ptmd » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:48 am UTC

Bool 1

[If said verbally, 10_bin is still "two" even if written differently numerically.]

Also the male figure isn't answering her question directly so much as counting to four in binary using his fingers, then gesturing that towards her :P

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby ptmd » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:54 am UTC

Considering the number of fingers each character has, binary is rather likely, isn't it...?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby gormster » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:59 am UTC

Eternal Density wrote:Why is she talking about binary and then pretending not to know what 4 means?

Because she's being a dick?
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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby rhhardin » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:03 am UTC


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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby ldsheinz » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:06 am UTC

I got this right away and i know next to nothing about binary.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby sween64 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:08 am UTC

What is a CS test?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Andromeda321 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:12 am UTC

gormster wrote:
Eternal Density wrote:Why is she talking about binary and then pretending not to know what 4 means?

Because she's being a dick?


Was there any doubt? :wink:

I predict a lot of one-upmanship of this nature in STEM fields around the world today...

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby atrahasis » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:15 am UTC

sween64 wrote:What is a CS test?

Computer Science.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby hrasdt » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:29 am UTC

She might be using base three, or four, as anything below five won't use four as a digit. The probability is going to be around one in three, without any information about the girl herself.

Of course, without the information that her base has no four, the probability will tend towards 0, as it could be a question in any base, approaching infinity.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby chapel » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:31 am UTC

Better yet, what does it mean to say that something has probability 10 (that is 2)? For all A, 0 =< P(A) =< 1.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby AlbeyAmakiir » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:34 am UTC

Brooks Hatlen wrote:You would be able to tell by whether she said ten or one-zero.

No, you can say "ten", and it's still valid in binary (as equal to decimal 2). I see no reason you have to call it "one-zero".

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby oren0 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:37 am UTC

hrasdt wrote:She might be using base three, or four, as anything below five won't use four as a digit. The probability is going to be around one in three, without any information about the girl herself.

Of course, without the information that her base has no four, the probability will tend towards 0, as it could be a question in any base, approaching infinity.


Assuming she's a perfect logician, and that she wants to ask an answerable question, she must be asking in base four. This is the only base smaller than five in which, on a scale of 1 to 10, a probability of 1/3 can be expressed (1, 2, 3, and 10 being probabilities of 0, 1/3, 2/3, and 1 respectively). But maybe we're overthinking this...

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby westrim » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:37 am UTC

sween64 wrote:What is a CS test?

It is an examination of your ability to use the arcane and highly technical process known as 'Google,' *does so* Would you look at that! The results are either medical stuff or classes regarding computer science! Which could it be?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby not the answer » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:41 am UTC

I don't quite understand the alt-text; is it supposed to be a reference to base 16? If so, 0x11 = B, not C...

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby tugs » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:49 am UTC

Not "on a scale of 0 to 1"?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby PhDFluff » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:50 am UTC

Could someone explain the alt text for someone who spends his days nerding about in other sciences than CS?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby bitwiseshiftleft » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:53 am UTC

AlbeyAmakiir wrote:
Brooks Hatlen wrote:You would be able to tell by whether she said ten or one-zero.

No, you can say "ten", and it's still valid in binary (as equal to decimal 2). I see no reason you have to call it "one-zero".


Ten is a number, not a notation that needs to be parsed through a base system. It is always one more than nine. It is never equal to two, unless you follow this with "modulo 2" or the like. Likewise, one hundred = 100_ten, not 100_(some other base).

Also, 1.111 is a pretty good answer to the question.

Also, http://xkcd.com/169/

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Ghandi 2 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:25 am UTC

Binary jokes are the cutting edge of internet comedy. Nonsensical ones even more so.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby philip1201 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:34 am UTC

Tirian wrote::| The answer's 10 no matter what base it's in, isn't it?


No. If you say 10, you're saying the chance is 100%, no matter what base you're in, that the question is using binary.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby djessop » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:58 am UTC

10 in binary is not pronounced "ten", it's either "two" or "one-zero". "Ten" is defined by the OED as "the cardinal number next higher than nine". If you say ten base two then you mean 1010, not 10.

The t-shirt should read "There are 11 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't and those who insist the number above is pronounced as eleven no matter what base you're in".

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby BobCat » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:07 am UTC

Ahem...

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby scarletmanuka » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:07 am UTC

bitwiseshiftleft wrote:Also, 1.111 is a pretty good answer to the question.

Came here planning to post that. Though I'd have made it recurring, for improved accuracy in the binary case. :)

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby AlbeyAmakiir » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:52 am UTC

bitwiseshiftleft wrote:
AlbeyAmakiir wrote:
Brooks Hatlen wrote:You would be able to tell by whether she said ten or one-zero.

No, you can say "ten", and it's still valid in binary (as equal to decimal 2). I see no reason you have to call it "one-zero".


Ten is a number, not a notation that needs to be parsed through a base system. It is always one more than nine. It is never equal to two, unless you follow this with "modulo 2" or the like. Likewise, one hundred = 100_ten, not 100_(some other base).

So, in base-16, you'd call a "ten" because it's after 9? That sounds arbitrarily confusing.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby UmlautBanana » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:55 am UTC

I don't get the alt text... C in hex is 12, not 11. Am I missing something?

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby sonalita » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:31 am UTC

UmlautBanana wrote:I don't get the alt text... C in hex is 12, not 11. Am I missing something?


"If you get an 11/100"

In binary that would be 3 out of 4 or 75% which I'm guessing would be a C grade.... At least that's my take on it

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby tjunction » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:25 am UTC

This comic probably gets the same response as I do when I point out that it's possible to count to 1023 on your fingers (and thumbs).

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby DrZiro » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:31 am UTC

Yeah, the C thing confused me too. Is it hex or a grade? Both kind of work. And we don't have that kind of grades where I live, so it's confusing.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Netzach » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:36 am UTC

How would you pronounce the following:

10 ... two, ten or one-zero
A ... ten or a (as in the name of the letter "a")
1A ... one-a, twentysix or a-teen

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Tnarg » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:17 pm UTC

if its binery then she is using 2 bits to hold 1 bit of infomation. Which is silly so the anser has to be 1. (same could be said for base ten but it far more common to use an extra digit in base ten)

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby BrianB » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:25 pm UTC

Netzach wrote:How would you pronounce the following:

10 ... two, ten or one-zero
A ... ten or a (as in the name of the letter "a")
1A ... one-a, twentysix or a-teen


10: If talking in binary, usually "one-zero"
A: "Ay"
1A: "one-ay"

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby BrianB » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:30 pm UTC

DrZiro wrote:Yeah, the C thing confused me too. Is it hex or a grade? Both kind of work. And we don't have that kind of grades where I live, so it's confusing.

"There are ten kinds of people in the world, one that understands binary, and nine that don't."


Here in the US, grade are generally converted from number to letter as follows:

96% to 100% - A+
90% to 95% - A
86% to 89% - B+
80% to 85% - B
76% to 79% - C+
70% to 75% - C
65% to 69% - D
64% and below - F (Failing)

Although this isn't standardized and some schools use slight variations on the actual breakpoints.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby yono1986 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:54 pm UTC

When I was in high school some telemarketer asked me to rate a product between 1 and 5, and I told her e. The next bit was her asking if I meant 5 and my stating that I meant e, and saying that I'm making myself eminently clear.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby robot123 » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:50 pm UTC

Kind of a mailed-in effort today IMO.

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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby AvatarIII » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:57 pm UTC

scarletmanuka wrote:
bitwiseshiftleft wrote:Also, 1.111 is a pretty good answer to the question.

Came here planning to post that. Though I'd have made it recurring, for improved accuracy in the binary case. :)


wouldn't 1.111 recurring in binary be 1.999 recurring in decimal? that was what i would have figured anyway.

i think 4/1010 converted to x/210 converted to x/102 would be more like 1.'0111'2 recurring (because it would be 1 and 4/9 which would be 1.44'10

edit: realise 4/10 would actually translate to 1 and 3/9 or 1.33' and i can't be bothered to try and convert that into binary "decimals" maybe it's simply 1.01'01'
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Re: 0953: "1 to 10"

Postby Роберт » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:45 pm UTC

djessop wrote:10 in binary is not pronounced "ten", it's either "two" or "one-zero". "Ten" is defined by the OED as "the cardinal number next higher than nine". If you say ten base two then you mean 1010, not 10.

The t-shirt should read "There are 11 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, those who don't and those who insist the number above is pronounced as eleven no matter what base you're in".

Way to fail with your first post. A binary 11 is 0x03.
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