0044: "Love"

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0044: "Love"

Postby Lester :P » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:57 am UTC

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Alt Text: This one makes me wince every time I think about it.




This has to be one of the saddest xkcd comics that made me laugh.

Also one of my favourites.
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`The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
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Postby Kawa » Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:32 pm UTC

I've had too many relationships like this, with me in both positions. It's not fun. Early on in my current relationship I had to reason with myself that it wasn't happening again. I'm glad it's not. ^^
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Postby Devilsaur » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:40 pm UTC

Aw, I didn't find this to be sad when I read it.

Stop demanding infinite love! Instead, be thankful you were saved from an infinite loop (which are pretty hard to get out of, trust me, I know).

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Postby Kawa » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:47 pm UTC

Devilsaur wrote:Aw, I didn't find this to be sad when I read it.

Stop demanding infinite love! Instead, be thankful you were saved from an infinite loop (which are pretty hard to get out of, trust me, I know).

All I demand is an equation instead of an inequality.

I love you!
I love you just as much!
We are both happy! Yay!
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Postby QuestionablyLegalManeuver » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:27 pm UTC

Kawa wrote:All I demand is an equation instead of an inequality.

I love you!
I love you just as much!
We are both happy! Yay!


Somehow, that doesn't have the same romantic flavor to it.

Even worse when you try to set it up as an in/equality.

"The amount to which I love you is greater than or equal to the amount to which you love me!"
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Postby morag » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:14 pm UTC

Love can be a function of two variables, lets call them X and Y (though X1, X2 or Y1, Y2 are equally valid). These variables will change over time.

X will have a smaller love quota for Y when Y is spending ages in the garage leaving X alone with their twins. However when X realises that Y has been polishing all the scratches out of X's motorbike that she's hoping to sell, X's love quota for Y will rise.

Equally, when X spends her evenings helping Y write his first published paper, Y's love quota for X will increase.

At least that's how I think it works.
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Postby Lester :P » Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:44 am UTC

I once read that in ancient greece people in relationships were given names depending on who was the lover and the lovee, the theory being that one person will always love the other person more, if you take this to be true, it's more of an optimisation question, although of course there are the parameters that it's love of some kind at all, obviously negative or very small numbers are useless for relationships, even if they are close to each other, because you just don't care enough.
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Postby McHell » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:55 pm UTC

morag wrote:However when X realises that Y has been polishing all the scratches out of X's motorbike that she's hoping to sell, X's love quota for Y will rise.


When Y realizes X prefers future cash over present Y-company, Y starts turning garage into man-cave, with more and more amenities.

Status quo leads to frustration.

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Postby 20,000leeks » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:00 am UTC

Perhaps it's a situation similar to the Balance of Payments for a developed economy.

Ideally, the equation goes X + Y = 0 (no, I'm not saying there's negative love, this is being done from the perspective of X - think of it as giving and receiving love).

However, since X and Y are made up of varying components, it's hard to get an exact balance. X, for example, would include the income account (alas, as Y increases, the income account goes into deficit).

In an economic sense, the solution (at least, for achieving a balance of zero in the above equation) is introducing a floating exchange rate.

...I'm not really sure I want to know how that would work in this situation. :?

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Postby Lester :P » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:38 am UTC

20,000leeks wrote:Perhaps it's a situation similar to the Balance of Payments for a developed economy.

Ideally, the equation goes X + Y = 0 (no, I'm not saying there's negative love, this is being done from the perspective of X - think of it as giving and receiving love).

However, since X and Y are made up of varying components, it's hard to get an exact balance. X, for example, would include the income account (alas, as Y increases, the income account goes into deficit).

In an economic sense, the solution (at least, for achieving a balance of zero in the above equation) is introducing a floating exchange rate.

...I'm not really sure I want to know how that would work in this situation. :?


And, being from X's point of view, it would be interminably prejudiced towards him, no?
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Postby McHell » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:26 am UTC

20,000leeks wrote:Ideally, the equation goes X + Y = 0


Hey hey hey, X and Y are labels, names, you cannot do sums with it. Even if it were numbers instead of X and Y! You get back from a party and want to check out your coats --- nr 154 and 155 please --- then you are also displeased if you get the summed-up coat --- nr 309, inevitably a flea-ridden miniskirt.

That said, you'd be hoping there's a synergy in a relationship; if not, stop it. So this kind of zero-sum you don't want to have.

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Postby LoonRadio » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:00 pm UTC

McHell wrote:That said, you'd be hoping there's a synergy in a relationship; if not, stop it. So this kind of zero-sum you don't want to have.


I agree. One would hope that in a two-pole love system, any love output from one pole generates a feedback loop in the other, so there would always be an imbalance.

Then again, I live alone with a cat and a big box of porn.
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Postby Sprocket » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:00 am UTC

LOL! Ouch! That one is awesome. One that I over looked on my initial read through I suppose. So sad. But I suppose I can be happy now. :-)


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Postby Invisible Queen » Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:59 am UTC

Love is shareware, and requires frequent reinstallations. :)
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Postby Arancaytar » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:08 pm UTC

One would hope that in a two-pole love system, any love output from one pole generates a feedback loop in the other, so there would always be an imbalance.


Exactly. Nothing increases love like being loved back.

To put it in mathematical terms, take

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L_n = (-1)^n * n^2, for n = 0 .. infinity


And let the sums of the positive terms and negative terms be the amount of love in each direction.
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Postby Lester :P » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:49 am UTC

I disagree, being loved can actually put you off from loving.
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`The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

`The question is,'said he,`Which is to be master-That id all.'

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Postby lcskumar » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:14 pm UTC

love cannot be compared with mathematical equations.It is some thing divine.

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Postby jakinator » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:06 pm UTC

The comic made me laugh, but people putting love into mathmatical equations made me laugh even harder.

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Postby zenten » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:40 pm UTC

lcskumar wrote:love cannot be compared with mathematical equations.It is some thing divine.


Are you implying that math equations are *not* divine?

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Postby LoonRadio » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:54 pm UTC

Take it easy on the boy. He has *one* post.
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Postby jakinator » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:57 pm UTC

lol, he registered just to say that love is devine.

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Postby Ketzerei » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:05 pm UTC

Wait... isn't that a spam bot?

I think they're growing more sophisticated.
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Postby OfficiallyHaphazard » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:13 pm UTC

if that was a bot, it would be saying the opposite :P
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Postby Clerria » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:32 am UTC

This one makes me wince a bit, too ; /

Most people are so emotionally fragile, that to openly admit this in a relationship would be devastating

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Postby Peshmerga » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:01 am UTC

Which is my curse.
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Postby ThorFluff » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:25 pm UTC

Makes me think back on a relationship i once had (and by once i mean the one that i was booted out of a month ago).

Both assume to love each other "just as much", because if the true amount of love of X or Y is ever know, the equation can be solved. Solve the equation of love and love would be over.

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Postby Peshmerga » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:22 pm UTC

Maybe love is a concept, like infinity.

How do you equate that??
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Postby ThorFluff » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:40 pm UTC

exactly
To "solve" it is to denature it from its natrual form, thus rendering it useless!

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Postby Thunderbird4! » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:01 pm UTC

I find that love is very similar to Douglas Adams' interpretation of the Universe... "There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

If that went over your head (and I hope it didn't) replace "the Universe" with "love".
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Re: "Love" Discussion

Postby VaRaine » Fri May 14, 2010 2:23 pm UTC

Why should a person's love for someone be quantified by the second person's amount of return love? That is silly. I love my partner - quite possibly more than she loves me. Though I suppose it could be the reverse. Does that bother me? Should I love her less? Is she less deserving of all the love I give her because she doesn't return that love in equal amounts, or greater amounts? Why is it a contest anyways? I always thought the concept of "I love you more" was ridiculous.

That being said - I peed myself laughing after reading this comic.

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Postby reevey » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:10 pm UTC

Arancaytar wrote:Nothing increases love like being loved back.

To put it in mathematical terms, take

Code: Select all

L_n = (-1)^n * n^2, for n = 0 .. infinity


And let the sums of the positive terms and negative terms be the amount of love in each direction.


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Re: "Love" Discussion

Postby SirMustapha » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:53 pm UTC

VaRaine wrote:Why should a person's love for someone be quantified by the second person's amount of return love? That is silly.


No! Talking about love in mathematical terms is brainy, geeky and cerebral, and give you... NERD CRED!!

And if you get enough NERD CRED, you can even be RANDALL'S FRIEND!





Yeah!

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Re: 0044: "Love"

Postby Monox D. I-Fly » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:02 am UTC

It's better than Katniss.

Gale: "I love you"
Katniss: "I know"
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