nitePhyyre wrote:If someone says something like, "In places where ending a pregnancy is easy, we should update child support laws to reflect that." ...
Updating laws is always a good idea. I just fundamentally disagree that we're at the place where it's proper right now. Like, miles and miles and miles away. Soooooo far away that the hypothesis needed to support the conversation of "what would you do if?" is entirely, utterly foreign to the current situation.
First, get abortion rights to the point where a woman can, with a minimal loss of income/travel/time/work/etc etc walk in an get an abortion without the harassment, without the waiting periods, without the forced "informative" medical procedures, without the stigma. Think along the lines of "any medical clinic".
Next, make it so she does not have to pay a dime and she, further, has any related medical expenses covered.
THEN, and only then, can we discuss a system where:
0) Within legal period for abortion, and if the abortion regulations meet the above stipulations
1) Mothers who refuse to participate on moral or religious grounds are excepted. Father is liable.
2) Potential fathers can be notified, if known or voluntarily furnished by the mother.
3) Notification is the duty of the state.
4) If notification fails with a period (i.e. a week),
-- 4.1) or if the mother can't or is unwilling to identify the father, father is liable.
-- 4.2) If father is found at a later date and paternity is established, father is liable.
5) If contact is successful, father has a decision period (i.e. a week).
-- 5.1) Failure to furnish decision within period, father is liable.
-- 5.2) Within the period, father can opt-out
6) State may not infringe on a woman's ability to get the abortion if, during the outlined process, she crosses the legal abortion boundary.
7) Participation in above cannot invalidate woman from receiving any state assistance she would be otherwise entitled to.
8) Father has no further ability to deny paternity. (This includes adoption)
That ... might be a fair compromise. At least a place to start a discussion once the prerequisites are reached.
BUT WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE YET.
(Also, I know there are apt to be complaints with 4.1. Tough. Shit. Otherwise, you're punishing the mothers who legitimately doesn't know who the father is, in an attempt to protect the occasional father who's villainous sexual partner is out to get her. Plus the kids. Furthermore, the state has no ability (short of ESP?) to tell the difference.)