Aaeriele wrote:Iulus Cofield wrote:See, I would like to agree with you. I would like to think non-physical consequences were not the primary motivating factor behind abortions, but they are. That study found that 13% of women chose to have abortions at least in part due to health concerns. 74% reported dramatic lifestyle changes as a contributing factor and 73% said not being able to afford a baby was a contributing factor. Let's not pretend abortion is something other than women declining parenthood in the large majority of cases. So, yeah. I don't think it is unfair to say there is a legal double standard between the rights of mothers and fathers. I mean, I believe abortion needs to be legal if only because people will get them regardless and then you have serious safety issues, so I'm okay with whatever justification the Supreme Court came up with to do that. But most abortions happen for the same reason that dead beat dads happen.
It doesn't matter what percentage of them happen due to physical reasons or not. The fact that physical reasons are a possibility makes the availability a necessity.
Even if it did, what's to say that "dramatic lifestyle changes" aren't including the very dramatic lifestyle change for a period of at least 9 months or more that a pregnancy involves? That "affording a baby" doesn't factor in potential need for maternity leave?
If you read the poll, you will find that if any participant responded yes to the "dramatic lifestyle changes" question, they were asked a followup for specific reasons. Feel free to read their results if you're looking for holes to poke in them.
Furthermore, what? Medical procedures are not normally made elective and on demand because the patient may have a physical motivation. I can get my foot chopped off, if I need it. I can't get it chopped off (by a doctor) because I want to become a beggar and the beggar's guild won't take me otherwise. I'm not going to pretend I understand the complicated world of medical ethics and what makes some procedures okay as elective and on demand like plastic surgery or sex changes and what makes others only okay if there is a medical necessity like amputation, but I am pretty sure the distinction isn't physical reasons are a possibility.
Edit in response to ninja edit:
"Nearly four in 10 indicated that they had completed their childbearing, [...]. Women also cited possible problems affecting the health of the fetus or concerns about their own health (13% and 12%, respectively)."
These all have bearing on physical consequences/bodily autonomy.
I already mentioned the 13% citing physical concerns. In the body of the poll, they say "women indicating that they had completed their desired childbearing". I am fairly sure they are referring to desired family size, not physical results of pregnancy.