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Are there emotions that we don't experience?

Postby Sleeper » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:01 am UTC

You can see recognizable emotions in some animals such as rage and fear and sorrow.

Is it possible that some animals, especially ones we are less related to such as cephalopods, experience emotions that humans don't? How could we tell?

Many animals can perceive sounds and colors that are beyond the human range. It's impossible to accurately imagine the experience of perceiving the colors of infrared and ultraviolet, or accurately imagine the experience of using the platypus's electric field sensation. Is it possible that some animals also experience emotions that are unknowable to Man?

Are there emotions that we're capable of experiencing, but it occurs only very rarely and are not part of the normal human experience?
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Re: Are there emotions that we don't experience?

Postby HungryHobo » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:33 am UTC

Are there emotions I experience than you do not?

It's probably related to the problem of other minds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds

There are certainly people with brain damage who lack particular emotions.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/ ... -amygdala/

So it's not too far out there to consider that certain animals might have emotions we lack entirely or that we have emotions they do not.

perhaps birds have an emotion for the feeling that it's time to migrate.
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Re: Are there emotions that we don't experience?

Postby Qaanol » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:51 am UTC

Have you felt mudita recently?
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Re: Are there emotions that we don't experience?

Postby Dr. Diaphanous » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:02 pm UTC

As I understand it, emotion comes from deep within the limbic system. This is an ancient area of the brain being present in reptiles (and birds) as well as mammals. Thus I imagine the basic emotions (e.g. fear, rage, lust) would be shared across all these groups in some form. As the human mind is more developed it probably has a greater range of emotions, as well as the consciousness to feel them. (Also be careful not to anthropomorphize as much as I suspect I have done below).

Here are some ideas of animal emotions I could think of:
    The exhilaration of flying (e.g. a crow).
    The pain mixed with satisfaction as a snake's body stretches to swallow prey as large as itself.
    Dreams during torpor (e.g. hibernation) or the feeling recovering from torpor.
    Emotions in animals with senses we lack. E.g. pain/confusion of a platypus in the presence of abnormally high voltages; or a dolphin subjected to abnormal sonar signals).

There are also many human emotions that humans can feel but you may never feel them:
    The adoration of a subordinate social animal in the presence of a superior e.g. chimps or baboons. It is said that just reaching out to touch the alpha can cure minor ailments. Humans may experience this with extreme hero worship or religious zeal. Mysterium tremendum (feeling "utterly insignificant but not personally alienated/ absolute astonishment/ awe) in the face of the numinous.
    Emotion going through the brain of a being that is dying ("life flashing before your eyes", maybe?)
    Extreme stress/fear/exhilaration, as during a high speed chase or gun fight, where your vision tunnels, you go deaf and get temporary amnesia etc.
    Terror mixed with boredom e.g. when sitting on a small boat next to a vicious tiger, for long periods of time.
    Emotions linked to drug use.
    Emotions in someone suffering from a disorder of the emotions e.g. depression or autism.

I am not a neuropsychologist, ethologist, psychoanalyst, artist, druggie, or mind reader.
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