AdmiralGreene wrote:You have to consider the difficulty of being sexist in today's world and getting away with it.
Like that article that omgryebread linked us too a while back, when that speaker made those rude sexist comments, people tweeted about it and what-not, they called him on it. When that start up company had 'friendly female staff members' (paraphrasing here) as one of the benefits for an event, they got called out about it, other companies pulled support, their reputation was damaged. They stopped the event and sent out an apology, hoping to regain face. Companies have strict anti-racism and anti-sexism rules nowadays to make sure that their employees don't piss off someone and have them tweet about it, damaging the company's reputation.
Sure, like Kestrel said, some people might not realize that they're being sexist with the comments they make, but if you politely talk to them about it, hopefully they'll stop, or be more considerate. If not, then you can bring it up with human relations, or your boss, and they'll probably put an end to it. Companies are not going to risk having a disgruntled employee spread the word about how that company doesn't stop sexism, especially when a single angry employee can use social media to bring that company under the public eye.
So yes, while brogramming may be a growing subset of people in the CS world, I personally don't think a company would be willing to hire them (or keep them employed, rather) if they're not able to keep their partying/potentially sexist ways in check.
After reading the whole thread, this post summed up most what I wanted to say. There may be a glut of sexist managers
--the people most likely to impact an employee's work and their perception of their environment--but it'd likely be an exaggeration to say that the 'old boys club' truly permeates most companies, particularly with the vigilance that most company HR departments have over this kind of behavior. Any company that doesn't want to be sued blind has it in their best interest to stamp out this behavior.
Of course, that doesn't change that the behavior and mindset exists and is prevalent, but I'd hardly give it any more special attention than other instances of 'group-isms' wherein homogeneity begets exclusivity and untouchability.
The other point that I wanted to make was that 'brogramming' is pointed out as having originate on the internet and that in itself is telling. No one's going to fire 'Sephiroth1985,' he has nothing to fear from posting inflammatory material. With anonymity comes the casting off of the sheep's clothing most people wear day-to-day. So while I don't think most women in computing need to suddenly fear overt sexism in the workplace (any more than women in other sectors), it's good to acknowledge--as others have in this thread--how sexist views influence what most would consider benign interactions.