RealisticIdealist wrote:You could argue that those are societal constructs, and those women loves clothes shopping because it has been forced on them from a young age, and I am partly willing to buy that. But then I have a question.
So if we were to somehow, hypothetically, magically and instantaneously get rid of all "gender traits" and no longer have any bias to a gender for any particular trait, would all those women all of a sudden stop loving clothes shopping? If yes, then societal constructs seem to have a bigger, even ridiculous impact then I thought, and I wonder how we started them. If no, then wouldn't human observation eventually associate those characteristics with women and man?
Let's get something out of the way, first: Clothes are awesome. There's nothing wrong with loving them. Same goes for shoes, trucks, beer, knitting, and the color pink. These are all things that anyone
can come to enjoy. Regardless of gender.
I'm mentioning this because of your language: 'because it has been forced on them from a young age' strongly implies that it is bad to get girls interested in clothes, or boys interested in trucks. It isn't: Clothes and trucks are both
awesome, and totally worth our time. The problem is that we don't bother to see if girls are interested in trucks -- or boys in clothes. And if they are, we don't support their interests -- in fact, a lot of us actively discourage them from pursuing these things.
I think knitting is awesome. But, as a man, when I pursue it, I get weird looks and laughter. Why? Is knitting only awesome when women
The goal here isn't to stop raising children to find these things interesting -- it's just to stop raising children to only
find these things interesting. There's a whole wide world out there, full of fascinating things -- and yet we've decided to arbitrarily define boundaries on what things you should and shouldn't be interested in -- based on something as arbitrary as the particular shape of your genitals (or your chromosomes -- or even just how you outwardly present your gender).
So, to answer your question: It's irrelevant. If we all woke up tomorrow with no gender biases whatsoever, and all of us ended up in the very same arrangement we're in right now -- well, okay. The existence of a biological impulse toward knitting or driving trucks doesn't change the fact that there are guys who want to knit and girls who want to drive trucks. We shouldn't discourage that sort of behavior -- if anything, we should encourage it.
Because if you genuinely love something, you want to share it with as many people as possible.