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Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:45 pm UTC
by PhoenixEnigma
There doesn't seem to be a lot of solid information yet, but it sounds like at least a dozen people injured and possibly several killed by a pair of explosions. Most people are speculating it's terrorism, but nothing has been confirmed yet.

http://live.boston.com/Event/2013_Bosto ... _live_blog

Hijacking the first post so everyone can see it: Google has launched a person finder, so if you need to know about someone or you know that someone (or yourself) is okay, this is a good port of call: http://google.org/personfinder/2013-boston-explosions

Also Pervocracy has some good links (blog itself can be NSFW): http://pervocracy.tumblr.com/post/48063 ... n-marathon

-Hawk

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:46 pm UTC
by Mighty Jalapeno
What the fucking fuck, world.

News articles I saw said no confirmed deaths, but many, many injuries.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:49 pm UTC
by Decker
I was waiting for someone to make this thread. It would have taken too long to do on my phone. I know we have a lot of xkcd'ers living in the boston area. Was anyone hurt?

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:52 pm UTC
by Izawwlgood
Fingers crossed this was just some kind of accident and not an act of terrorism. My heart goes out to those who were injured, there are some extremely bloody photographs circulating.

Reports are mixed; seems at least 12 people were injured.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:58 pm UTC
by Decker
Boston marathon twitter account says that it was "two bombs". Boston globe says at least "dozens of people wounded, some of them with dismemberment". Sorry I can't do any links right now.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:59 pm UTC
by Ormurinn
Just saw this in the pub. Bloody hell. No groups claiming responsibility yet?

Been looking at the pics. No smoke lie there usually is. God it's horrible.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:14 pm UTC
by Brace
Patriot's day, tax day, and the city of Boston, all highly symbolic. If it is terrorism it's probably domestic terrorism.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:19 pm UTC
by Decker
Brace wrote:Patriot's day, tax day, and the city of Boston, all highly symbolic. If it is terrorism it's probably domestic terrorism.

That's quite a leap of logic.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:20 pm UTC
by Iulus Cofield
Boston Police have allegedly performed a controlled detonation of a third bomb, so it looks like this was definitely no accident. I agree that it was most likely domestic terrorism, but no reports of anyone claiming responsibility yet.

Edit: Here's a map of the two explosions

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AP reports two additional bombs are being dismantled by police.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm UTC
by Decker
Okay, maybe not THAT big a leap. I still wouldn't assume anything one way or the other yet.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:25 pm UTC
by Ormurinn
Why bomb runners? I don't get it - even the WTC or London Tube are arguably economic targets. This is really affecting me in a way these kinds of stories usually dont.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:28 pm UTC
by Izawwlgood
My guess is, if the bombs were set near the finish line for the marathon, the targets probably weren't the runners, but the crowds. The marathon is a long (duh) event, and it draws a crowd along the entirety of it, but the finish line is the most crowded place.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:29 pm UTC
by ameretrifle
Ormurinn wrote:Why bomb runners? .... This is really affecting me in a way these kinds of stories usually dont.

While we obviously can't know for sure what motive they had yet, I suspect you answered your own question there.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:29 pm UTC
by Dark Avorian
This is true terrorism. The big attacks are scary in a whole different way. Random, small, civilian targeted attacks instill fear in a more insidious and creeping way.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:29 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
Two confirmed dead, and they're suspecting IEDs.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:34 pm UTC
by Decker
Looks like two more bombs were found and are being dismantled.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:36 pm UTC
by Tyndmyr
Decker wrote:
Brace wrote:Patriot's day, tax day, and the city of Boston, all highly symbolic. If it is terrorism it's probably domestic terrorism.

That's quite a leap of logic.


I already made it as well. It just seems domestic. It isn't really a symbol of things the usual foreign suspicious types hate...I'm guessing domestic for sure.

That said, I do hope nobody I know is injured or killed. I know one chap that's a diehard marathoner, hopefully I hear that he was not there/uninvolved soonly.

I assume the runners thing is simply because it's a big event. I can't actually think of a reason why anyone would hate running that much, yknow?

The IED thing seems pretty safe to assume. It'd be much bigger news if it wasn't. Not really a lot of market for commercial stuff like this.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:40 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
Decker wrote:Looks like two more bombs were found and are being dismantled.


Dismantled? Controlled detonation, I heard.

Doesn't Randall live in Massachusetts?

Tyndmyr wrote:
Decker wrote:
Brace wrote:Patriot's day, tax day, and the city of Boston, all highly symbolic. If it is terrorism it's probably domestic terrorism.

That's quite a leap of logic.


I already made it as well. It just seems domestic. It isn't really a symbol of things the usual foreign suspicious types hate...I'm guessing domestic for sure.

That said, I do hope nobody I know is injured or killed. I know one chap that's a diehard marathoner, hopefully I hear that he was not there/uninvolved soonly.

I assume the runners thing is simply because it's a big event. I can't actually think of a reason why anyone would hate running that much, yknow?

The IED thing seems pretty safe to assume. It'd be much bigger news if it wasn't. Not really a lot of market for commercial stuff like this.


My initial reaction when I knew nothing was: Boston is known for being rather liberal. Gay rights, women's rights, abortions are legal. Some right-wing extremist nutjob.

Now I know nothing still, and anything goes. Generic crowd's aren't usually the MO for right-wing terrorists, are they? They usually go for specific places like abortion clinics.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:44 pm UTC
by roband
Reading that some witnesses have described injuries consistent with ball bearing bombs. Nasty nasty shit man.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:48 pm UTC
by Iulus Cofield
ameretrifle wrote:
Ormurinn wrote:Why bomb runners? .... This is really affecting me in a way these kinds of stories usually dont.

While we obviously can't know for sure what motive they had yet, I suspect you answered your own question there.


It's a pretty unusual choice of target. Typically terrorists go for symbolic targets or ones that instill the idea that you aren't safe in your ordinary life, neither which particularly fits a marathon.

I don't envy the police investigating this. Their list of potential suspects must be over a thousand people and I've heard people as far as Kansas City were participating in the marathon, so there's no guarantee the perpetrators are even Massachusetts residents. On the other hand, four bombs (or more) suggests it wasn't a lone psycho either, who would be nearly impossible to track down.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:49 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
The Boston Marathon has runners from all over the world [edit: I said country earlier, I meant world], don't they? Flags of different countries littered the road for a bit. As a symbolic target, it has some attributes.

I want my president. I voted for him, I should hear him speak.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:52 pm UTC
by Роберт
That's what I'm still wondering: who the heck did this and why? Domestic terrorism certainly seems possible, but I'm not going to wager money on it.

Some people killed and many more missing legs. This is horrible. Glad that some of the bombs failed.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:53 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
They just said the fire at the JFK Library was connected. They said it wasn't earlier, but now they say it is.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:54 pm UTC
by Izawwlgood
I sincerely doubt the marathon itself was a symbolic target. Economic damages, increase fear. That sort of thing.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:55 pm UTC
by Роберт
Shepherdess wrote:They just said the fire at the JFK Library was connected. They said it wasn't earlier, but now they say it is.

JFK sounds like a symbolic target. He was assassinated, after all.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:59 pm UTC
by Decker
looks like it wasn't just a fire. It was another bomb. Three alltogether.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:00 pm UTC
by Iulus Cofield
A couple sources are reporting that the BPD has a suspect in custody at a hospital who has shrapnel injuries and was allegedly seen carrying multiple backpacks, but there was no mention of it at the press conference they just held.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:02 pm UTC
by Hawknc
If anyone has useful links, I'll add them to the first post. I've just added a people finder that Google has launched if anyone needs to find out if someone is okay.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:03 pm UTC
by Роберт
Iulus Cofield wrote:A couple sources are reporting that the BPD has a suspect in custody at a hospital who has shrapnel injuries and was allegedly seen carrying multiple backpacks, but there was no mention of it at the press conference they just held.

I'm not holding my breath. Multiple backpacks is not all that incriminating, especially in the context of a marathon or similar event. Shrapnel injuries indicates that if it was indeed a culprit, they screwed up.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:12 pm UTC
by Tyndmyr
Shepherdess wrote:My initial reaction when I knew nothing was: Boston is known for being rather liberal. Gay rights, women's rights, abortions are legal. Some right-wing extremist nutjob.

Now I know nothing still, and anything goes. Generic crowd's aren't usually the MO for right-wing terrorists, are they? They usually go for specific places like abortion clinics.


The thought occured to me as well, but yeah, you're right. It's as close to a generic crowd as I can imagine...so, I'm gonna stick with domestic, but assume it's something crazier than the usual left/right split. Unabomber hated civilization and urbanization, and hence his targets were kind of random from our perspective. Perhaps it's something like that.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:13 pm UTC
by Brace
A crazy fat rights activist >_<

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:15 pm UTC
by (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I'm pretty sure most if not all Cambervillains are accounted for.
Randy does, I belive, live in the area again. I have never known him to run a marathon.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:17 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
Fantastic Idea wrote:I'm pretty sure most if not all Cambervillains are accounted for.
Randy does, I belive, live in the area again. I have never known him to run a marathon.


Not run, but he could have been a spectator.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:21 pm UTC
by Felstaff
Fantastic Idea wrote:I'm pretty sure most if not all Cambervillains are accounted for.

That is very relieving to know. As soon as I heard I came to the forum first.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:22 pm UTC
by ameretrifle
Iulus Cofield wrote:
ameretrifle wrote:
Ormurinn wrote:Why bomb runners? .... This is really affecting me in a way these kinds of stories usually dont.

While we obviously can't know for sure what motive they had yet, I suspect you answered your own question there.


It's a pretty unusual choice of target. Typically terrorists go for symbolic targets or ones that instill the idea that you aren't safe in your ordinary life, neither which particularly fits a marathon.

Eh, that depends a lot, people can have very different perceptions of events-- particularly if they're the sort to build and deploy bombs. They may have thought it was symbolic, or may have known so many runners that it seemed an attack on "ordinary life". And even if neither of those are true, the very fact that it is causing more of a reaction in some (if not many or most) people than the standard "symbolic" or "everyday" targets is in and of itself an excellent reason to have targeted it. It's about shock value, it's about feeling startled and unsafe. If it is jarring, and if it is more jarring to some people than the "usual" choices of target, then I'd think that'd be their goal met, much better than any target that's so expected you can call it "typical". But theories without data, etc., etc.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:23 pm UTC
by Роберт
Strangely enough, this isn't on the front page of reddit. Even in the world news section, it's pretty buried. http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:27 pm UTC
by Wednesday
Belial and I are fine, I am seriously shaken. I worked across the street from the second bomb that went off. A friend of mine is missing, and all cell service in Boston has been shut down, I assume because of police suspicions of triggering devices.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:29 pm UTC
by Shepherdess
Wednesday wrote:Belial and I are fine, I am seriously shaken. I worked across the street from the second bomb that went off. A friend of mine is missing, and all cell service in Boston has been shut down, I assume because of police suspicions of triggering devices.


I hope your friend is safe.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:30 pm UTC
by (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Wednesday, Belial*, Gmal*, me, Izawwlgood, Sprocket, saranade, H.E.L.e.N., Esoteric Wombat, Spi, Studyinserendipity, natraj*, hendusoone*, Will*, the EGE*, Heather* and meridian are accounted for.

*I see you bein all active on GChat.

I was able to contact a friend on Newbury Street and am getting messages from around the state. However my mom just tried to call and didn't reach me. Cell service *may* work spottily.

Mom and I haven't heard from my sister yet.

Re: Bombing at Boston Marathon Finish Line.

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:35 pm UTC
by Wednesday
Just got in touch with Doogly and Elise, they're okay too.