Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby WibblyWobbly » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:25 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:So you would rather keep giving 'murrican dollars to the terr'rsts that hate our freedoms? Don't you get it? Green energy is all about giving the Saudis the bird. The 'murrican bird! That's an eagle, because 'murrica!

You, sir, are a poet and a patriot. I'll take twelve. 'Murrica.

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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby davidstarlingm » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:53 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:
Isaac Hill wrote:What bothers me most about this debate is that it obscures what science actually is: knowledge obtained through experimentation and observation. Even if there is something to creationism, it doesn't belong in science class until it produces testable hypotheses. We don't study George Washington in science class, but that's not because his existence is in doubt. It's because our knowedge of him comes from historical records instead of the lab.

Adding creationism to science class shows a lack of understanding as to why the curriculum is separated into categories like math, history, and science in the first place. It's not about what questions are answered, but how those answers are obtained. Changing science from "this what happens when you do x" to "this is what some smart guy said" does a disservice to students who respond better to the former type of learning.

That's not to say that science is always superior to other branches of knowledge. If someone 100 years from now wants to study hurricane Katrina, sure, you can send some geologists to collect and study soil samples. But, you'd probably get a more thorough understanding of what happened by checking the historical records generated during that time. Understanding the different ways knowledge can be obtained is a valuable lesson in and of itself, a lesson made harder to learn by adding things to science class that simply aren't science.


This. So much this. It's probably the best counter to Creationists, because it avoids the whole 'you are wrong' thing that tends to not work with religions.

But the creationists just turn around and say that you're dealing with (natural) history to begin with, so they DO have relevance.

Meh.

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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby iChef » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:22 pm UTC

Why can't we just meet in the middle on this issue. Just Put in the text book that the big bang happened. Matter collected into stars and planets. Sol and then Earth formed and then life slowly evolved on it. Then 6,000 years ago God created Adam and Eve in Texas where they invented football and lived happily ever after. As fart as I see it everyone wins.
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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby addams » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:35 pm UTC

iChef wrote:Why can't we just meet in the middle on this issue. Just Put in the text book that the big bang happened. Matter collected into stars and planets. Sol and then Earth formed and then life slowly evolved on it. Then 6,000 years ago God created Adam and Eve in Texas where they invented football and lived happily ever after. As fart as I see it everyone wins.

It will work.
If people leave Texas, they will catch up quickly.
This can be another Tourist Attraction!
People from all over the world can come to Texas on an Adventure.

The adds can show Normal Educated tourists enter acting with Texans.
The Normals laugh and the Texans turn Red and make faces.

Will security be private from ElseWhere? Or; Will security be Texans?
It could become one of those extreme Tourist Destinations.

Do you know about that? Some people have more money than brains.
Those people get the list of 10 most dangerous places and go there.

Texas. It would never make the Top Ten. Would it?
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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby Diemo » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:41 pm UTC

iChef wrote:As fart as I see it everyone wins.


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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby addams » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:27 pm UTC

Diemo wrote:
iChef wrote:As fart as I see it everyone wins.


Yes

Have you seen some of these Rabid Old Farts?
Farts as far as I can see, too.
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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby PolakoVoador » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:27 am UTC

eran_rathan wrote:See, that one actually makes sense in some of its divisions - having the largest cities be states unto themselves (or, as the Russians handle it, Federal Cities) would be awkward occasionally, I think that the distribution was handled much better in the second map, by recognizing things such as mountain ranges and rivers as natural boundaries, much like they are in the Eastern states. any civilized place


FTFY.

Seriously, straight, arbitrary boundaries make absolutely no sense*.


*Except in desert areas and the like, where no one really cares where the boundarie is anyway

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Re: Creationism vs. Evolution Returns to Texas

Postby addams » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:38 am UTC

PolakoVoador wrote:
eran_rathan wrote:See, that one actually makes sense in some of its divisions - having the largest cities be states unto themselves (or, as the Russians handle it, Federal Cities) would be awkward occasionally, I think that the distribution was handled much better in the second map, by recognizing things such as mountain ranges and rivers as natural boundaries, much like they are in the Eastern states. any civilized place


FTFY.

Seriously, straight, arbitrary boundaries make absolutely no sense*.


*Except in desert areas and the like, where no one really cares where the boundarie is anyway

Umm. It seems the US dept. of Homeland Security cares. Those Areas out in the desert have boundaries.

oh. For the Vote. pfft.
The votes don't count anyway. Do they?

Nah. It has been an open Secret for years.
The elections are bought and sold using both money and favors.
This is not new. It is nice for people with common concerns to Vote together.

The rural vote is becoming the bedroom vote. Correct?
Is the whole middle of the country the bedroom?

Washington DC is the closet. East Coast and West Coast are the Front Doors.
Florida is the Laundry Room and gossip fence. Texas does not, really, exist. (sorry Austin)
Life is, just, an exchange of electrons; It is up to us to give it meaning.

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Some of us see The Gutter.
Some of us see The Stars.
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Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.


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