The Darker Side of the News

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Grop » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:44 am UTC

Good thing Chernobyl's cloud was stopped by the Alps! (Frequent propaganda joke here, I live close to the Italian border).

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:57 am UTC

Damn It!
More scary Dark News.

The Trump Administration is going to UnDo net neutrality.
This is going to Hit Me! (like so much of his doings)

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/20/166 ... iving-week
The FCC’s final proposal is likely to completely undo the strict net neutrality rules that the FCC enacted just two years ago.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Sableagle » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:32 pm UTC

https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/uk ... c/?cjjqKeb

Now that Britain's heading for the exit from the EU, Britain is also heading off into independence in many fields of law, including animal welfare, and therefore needs to consider what laws should be in place in Orphan Britain. Laws to protect animals from cruelty and suffering, for example, are ...

... apparently not needed because animals don't feel pain, according to our MPs. :shock:
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:50 pm UTC

We live in such difficult Times.
I don't know Who is the Russian Pawn; You or Them?

oh,...Good Greif!
Both Sides??

Yep.
As long as we are degrading one another They win.
Spoiler:
Deep in my own private little world,
Brexit, like U.S. 2016, has been a successful Russian advert campaign.
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Soupspoon » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:40 pm UTC

Uber-dodgy data security, which I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere in these environs…

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Sableagle » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:04 pm UTC



... or don't if you're squeamish ...

Spoiler:
I found it frustrating during the final weeks of the siege of Mosul, which went on for nine months, to know that there was very heavy civilian loss of life as Iraqi forces backed by air strikes closed in on the Old City, but it was impossible to prove it. I was in touch by mobile phone with two different individuals trapped behind Isis lines who faced the dilemma of either staying where they were and chance being killed by the bombardment, or trying to escape to government-held territory and risk being shot by Isis snipers.

The two men took different decisions, but neither of them survived. One was shot dead by Isis as he and his mother joined a group trying to escape across the Tigris using rubber tyres because they could not swim. A second man was wounded in one air strike and killed by a second in the last weeks of the siege. Most of the two men’s extended families were also dead by the time the siege ended.

Fortunately some reporters do go on looking at what really happened in battles like Mosul long after the rest of the media has shifted its attention elsewhere. Joel Wing, in the online journal Musings on Iraq, writes that fresh information on casualties raises “the total number of dead during the operation [to capture Mosul city and surrounding area] to 21,224 and 30,996 wounded. 17,404 of the former and 24,580 of the latter occurred in Mosul. The new numbers still highlighted the fact that there are many more undocumented casualties as the wounded should be four to six times higher than the fatalities figure. Even if you subtract the 5,325 people that were executed by the Islamic State, that would still mean there should be 60,000-90,000 injured from the fighting.”

In a lengthy study called “The Uncounted”, published in The New York Times on 16 November, they reached devastating conclusions. They write that “we found that one in five of the coalition strikes we identified resulted in civilian death, a rate more than 31 times that acknowledge by the coalition”. They add that when it comes to civilian deaths this “may be the least transparent war in recent American history”.

The coalition denied that many of the air strikes that had killed people had ever taken place, but the reporters found that there were videos of several of them on the coalition’s YouTube channel, though these claimed to show the destruction of Isis targets. When they pointed this out, the videos were quietly withdrawn.


I'm sure this'll be brought up in parliament here.

Spoiler:
MPs criticised for failing to turn up to debate on humanitarian crisis in Yemen

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The emergency debate was called by Tory MP Andrew Mitchell, the former International Development Secretary, who used it to raise concerns about the “almighty catastrophe of biblical proportions” that he said was unfolding in the country.

However, he was joined in the House of Commons by only around 30 of Parliament’s 650 MPs.

Responding, Foreign Office minister Alistair Burt said UK officials are in Saudi Arabia monitoring air strikes to ensure that UK-made weapons are used appropriately.

He said: “We have a rigorous legal and parliamentary process, and ensuring that international humanitarian law is not breached is clearly a vital part of that. The information supplied by those liaison officers is crucial to ensuring that our international obligations are observed. That is why they are there.”
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby addams » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:11 am UTC

Oh, Good Grief!
Another Big Fire!

The West Coast of the U.S. is unwillingly pumping out tons of CO2.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/05/us/ventur ... index.html
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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby sardia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:40 pm UTC

The same merchants of doubt that delayed and blocked government action on cigarettes are now being paid to delay, and block science on global warming. The tobacco industry set the gold standard on how too attack science.
Tldr after reading an unknown group's report, do you feel more confident or less confident? If you feel less confident and they say 'sound science' then that group is probably an industry shill designed to gas light you.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... d-science/
What distinguishes the two calls for transparency is intent: Whereas the “open science” movement aims to make science more reliable, reproducible and robust, proponents of “sound science” have historically worked to amplify uncertainty, create doubt and undermine scientific discoveries that threaten their interests.
for example, say your chemicals are poisoning children. Demand more certainty from the regulators. At best, you delay regulations and tie up their limited money and time. At worst, you kill the regulation entirely. Either way, you win.

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Re: The Darker Side of the News

Postby Sableagle » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:51 pm UTC



... and on the sixth day, God fucked it right up.
Oh, Willie McBride, it was all done in vain.


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