Lucrece wrote:I don't get why some progressives are so attached to protecting the image of religion, especially when they perceive a particular religion to be populated by racial minorities.
Because it demonizes people who follow those religions.
By this point I don't give a shit what someone's feelings are about seeing their religion painted in a bad light. Boo fucking hoo. Religion has been a scourge to gay people and women for millennia, and we frankly we don't need all this apologia just because some political factions want somebody's vote.
1. No, religion hasn't always been a scourge to gay people (how are women not people BTW?) over millennia. Yes, of course it's happened a lot over the years, but there were also centuries-long periods when religious movements sanctioned same-sex relationships (I know this is definitely true for Judaism and Christianity).
2. As a gay atheist, I'm going to object here and say that this is incredibly disturbing to me.
Stop trying to feed people this bullshit about religions of peace. Religions are neither peaceful or benevolent in most of the world to several minorities, especially gay people.
Some people working on behalf of some religions have definitely been violent, there's no doubt about that. But I'm not sure how you can say that when most people in the world are religious, and most people in the world have also not been violent towards others.
There's not a single Muslim country where homosexuality isn't subject to governmental and social persecution, most of them actually carrying the death penalty or heavy jail terms.
The Ottoman Empire legalized homosexual relationships in 1858 (for reference, Finland only legalized in 1971, Norway in 1972, and the US in 2003). LGBT people can also seek asylum in Turkey for their sexual orientation. Also, 20 out of 57 majority-Muslim countries don't have laws prohibiting same-sex intercourse or same-sex relationships.
So please don't say things that are simply not true.