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Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:53 pm UTC
by ElWanderer
Mutex wrote:Something from that article I didn't know:
Two older brothers, Jimmy and Brian, also formed a double-act, the Patton Brothers, and have appeared on ChuckleVision

Gee I wonder why the "Patton Brothers" were less successful than the Chuckle Brothers.


Patton vision, Patton vision *tank crashes through set* Patton Patton vision!!

Yes, it doesn't sound so entertaining.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:16 pm UTC
by orthogon
ElWanderer wrote:
Mutex wrote:Something from that article I didn't know:
Two older brothers, Jimmy and Brian, also formed a double-act, the Patton Brothers, and have appeared on ChuckleVision

Gee I wonder why the "Patton Brothers" were less successful than the Chuckle Brothers.


Patton vision, Patton vision *tank crashes through set* Patton Patton vision!!

Yes, it doesn't sound so entertaining.

I was thinking that even "Chuckle Brothers" was aiming kind of low anyway. "We're not hilarious, we're just mildly amusing". It's quite British and reminds me of Paul Daniels's promise that "you'll like it --- not a lot". On reflection, though, chuckling is probably my favourite sort of laughter - the slow burning, self-perpetuating mirth that keeps rekindling itself each time you think about the joke. (I can't remember whether the Chuckle Brothers actually induced this state of being, mind).

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:22 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
The late Ken Dodd, barely paraphrased:
Everyone's got a chuckle-muscle, but you have to exercise it every day or it wastes away.

I didn't watch too much Chucklevision/etc, aimed at children at an age when I was neither a child nor watching ironically as a student, but I do know they were the consummate… ummm… not strictly physical comedians (like Keaton, Lloyd or Chaplin), but physical-situational comedians, perhaps even comparable (arguably) with Laurel and Hardy. They had 'gags', but they mainly had exquisite choreography and expressiveness, from what I recall. No superhuman feats, but a ballet-like performance, IIRC.

Obviously they were experienced panto-players, and came to fame through a mild-grotesque two-hander act in the '70s, and still had been shown to have be able to be employed even today, moulding to various capacities. That's a skill to have, in anybody's field, and certainly a pair of performers, not so easy to (say) write a bit-part into a Midsomer Murders or do a King Lear run, to try to establish a serious-drama option beyond the original remit.


("They"+"Were" because "They" is now in the past tense, but the other brother is still alive of course, and my condolences - for what they are worth, on here - go out to him.)

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:32 pm UTC
by Clix
It's a bitch when you're at an age when your original musical heroes are dropping left and right.

Aretha Franklin, the ‘Queen of Soul,’ Dies at 76

Border Song (Holy Moses) (with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra)

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:35 pm UTC
by moody7277
There's some sort of pathos/irony thing that she died so close to the relaunch of Murphy Brown.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:40 pm UTC
by Zohar
moody7277 wrote:There's some sort of pathos/irony thing that she died so close to the relaunch of Murphy Brown.

Because she guest-starred in it once? I'm not sure I understand.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:49 pm UTC
by moody7277
Zohar wrote:
moody7277 wrote:There's some sort of pathos/irony thing that she died so close to the relaunch of Murphy Brown.

Because she guest-starred in it once? I'm not sure I understand.


Murphy Brown was a big fan, they used her music a lot in the show.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:21 pm UTC
by Zohar
Oh, OK, I don't remember the show very well. Thanks for clarifying.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:07 pm UTC
by addams
Clix wrote:It's a bitch when you're at an age when your original musical heroes are dropping left and right.

Aretha Franklin, the ‘Queen of Soul,’ Dies at 76

Border Song (Holy Moses) (with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra)
She had become an immortal years ago.
(sniff, sniff) We, I,...sometimes forget that inspirational voice belongs to a Real Live Human Being.

She died? Of course, she can die. we all will. Her voice will live on.

(sniff, sniff) If anything could have been done for her, it would have been done.
Our medical professionals are able to mount an impressive defense against most cancer.

Cancer of the Pancreas remains a tough holdout.
She was adored by many. I'm betting well cared for.

Still,...(sniff, sniff)
What an inspiration she was and will remain.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:37 am UTC
by commodorejohn
I mean, the lady managed to be a standout musical performance in the freaking Blues Brothers. That alone would be legacy enough, but in her career, it was just an entertaining footnote. 'Nuff said.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:17 pm UTC
by Soupspoon

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:11 pm UTC
by orthogon
Soupspoon wrote:Kofi Annan

I always thought that one of the selection criteria for UN Secretaries General was having a great name. Kofi Annan is an OK name, but, with all due respect for the recently departed, it's not a patch on Javier Pérez de Cuéllar or Ban Ki-moon and well behind the unassailable all-time champion, Boutros Boutros-Ghali.

Re: Where Aren't They N ow (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:08 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
(Alas, we said goodbye to him a couple of years ago.)

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:59 pm UTC
by cyanyoshi

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:24 am UTC
by addams
oh,...I'm so sorry for your loss.
I didn't know about him.

I know about him, now.
He was quite the guy.

You must be sad, knowing he is gone.
I am glad you have his body of work.

Kind'a like I have Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot.
We can hear their voices and they are back.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:04 am UTC
by CorruptUser
John McCain

Apparently, his mother is still alive, at 106 years old. Must be awful, bad enough to have to bury your identical twin sister, but that was a 50 50 chance anyway, and now her son.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:29 pm UTC
by Zamfir
Javier Pérez de Cuéllar or Ban Ki-moon and well behind the unassailable all-time champion, Boutros Boutros-Ghali.

I liked U Thant best

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:55 pm UTC
by sardia
CorruptUser wrote:John McCain

Apparently, his mother is still alive, at 106 years old. Must be awful, bad enough to have to bury your identical twin sister, but that was a 50 50 chance anyway, and now her son.

He did his duty, pretending he wasn't dead until after the special election window had passed, thus letting the governor appoint a GOP senator.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:51 pm UTC
by Chen
sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:John McCain

Apparently, his mother is still alive, at 106 years old. Must be awful, bad enough to have to bury your identical twin sister, but that was a 50 50 chance anyway, and now her son.

He did his duty, pretending he wasn't dead until after the special election window had passed, thus letting the governor appoint a GOP senator.


Wasn’t the deadline for that in May? Seems that window passed a while ago.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:44 pm UTC
by cyanyoshi
sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:John McCain

Apparently, his mother is still alive, at 106 years old. Must be awful, bad enough to have to bury your identical twin sister, but that was a 50 50 chance anyway, and now her son.

He did his duty, pretending he wasn't dead until after the special election window had passed, thus letting the governor appoint a GOP senator.

Are you suggesting that undergoing cancer treatment to delay the inevitable was a political move?

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:02 pm UTC
by Mutex
I think sardia is suggesting there's been a Weekend at Bernies thing going on since May.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:35 am UTC
by addams
ewww...

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:41 am UTC
by CorruptUser
This is the only Weekend at Bernie's that I'll accept

But no, I think Sardia was just being snarky and showing contempt for the least awful Republican we've had.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:43 am UTC
by sardia
CorruptUser wrote:This is the only Weekend at Bernie's that I'll accept

But no, I think Sardia was just being snarky and showing contempt for the least awful Republican we've had.

McCain didn't get any better, he just didn't get any worse. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/jo ... olitician/ Image He saved ACA, which I'm happy about, but McCain knew which team he's rooting for. They purposely held him in that seat until after the May deadline to prevent a special election. Just like they did with Thad Cochrane. These people* aren't mentally fit for office, but their staff pretend a la weekend at Bernies. But with medically incompetent, instead of dead.

*To be fair, I think McCain was competent until he died, just no stamina.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:07 am UTC
by Zamfir
Whats the point of a party-identifying senator who only votes with the party 50% or 60%?

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:43 pm UTC
by commodorejohn
Zamfir wrote:Whats the point of a party-identifying senator who only votes with the party 50% or 60%?

In an ideal world, to be the conscience of the party and help keep things from devolving into blind tribalism.

In McCain's case, to give the press excuses to keep calling him a "maverick" even though he folded under pressure on the important issues 90% of the time.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:09 pm UTC
by Tyndmyr
Zamfir wrote:Whats the point of a party-identifying senator who only votes with the party 50% or 60%?


Matters for perception of control. At least, if we're talking "point of them for the party".

For the electorate, I can see a lot more value. I don't mind someone being willing to oppose the party line on occasion. So long as it's when he's got a good reason.

For McCain...it's mixed. For instance, he made the occasional principled statement in opposition to some in his party that was reasonable. Other times, sure, just folding because of convenience. It happens, it's politics and nobody up there is perfect. I do wish some other members of his party were similarly respectful towards their opposition, though. If there's one element I hope he's remembered for, it's that.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:15 pm UTC
by addams
Yep.
Dignity.

Not a thing his party is known for, now.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:21 pm UTC
by wumpus
Zamfir wrote:Whats the point of a party-identifying senator who only votes with the party 50% or 60%?


Wait, what? Did Susan Collins [60%] die? John McCain was 87% (median GOP 91%).
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wh ... he-senate/
[nifty graph showing the whole Senate] https://www.govtrack.us/congress/member ... ain/300071

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:45 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
Burt Reynolds

"Breaker, breaker for the Bandit."

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:03 pm UTC
by Yablo
Soupspoon wrote:Burt Reynolds

"Breaker, breaker for the Bandit."

This is actually pretty sad. I think I need to stop trying to start tabletop RPGs with my old gaming group. Last time I tried, Don Rickles died, and this time it's Burt.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:57 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
Yes... had absolutely nothing to do with his breakup with Mallory Archer...

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:34 am UTC
by Soupspoon
https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/57c4a3a7180000dd10bcde55.jpeg

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:58 am UTC
by Thesh
Gene Wilder has been dead for two years.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:11 am UTC
by Soupspoon
You're right. For some reason an old story about his death came up as new when scanning news, and here I was thinking "is it going to be like 2016 where loads of celebrities seemed to be dying", forgetting that he was one of them! And I surely posted something (somewhere, if not here, but very likely here) at the time.

(That's how bad 2016 was? So easy to forget?)

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:44 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
Double checks date first!

Almost certainly for the Brits among us, and likely not so much the Millennials but I would be happy to be surprised about that, may I present Denis Norden (1922-2018). With the warning that despite being a most prolific comedy-writer of note, or perhaps because of, the article starts pretty much in the complete opposite of comedy.


LateETA, but I really don't want to double-post just for the sake of marking the passing of another Brit-only icon. (Hopefully enough people will rewind to see this addition to not make it invisible.)

Geoffrey from Rainbow has just said his final "Goodbye everybody!"

Could I say he was a bit Mr Rogersish? Maybe in combination with Harry(/Matthew) Corbett, Mr Derek (and other Basil Brush "Mr"s), Johnny Morris, etc. Anyway, overwhelmingly famous for playing alongside a monodexterous pink hippo-head, a counterdexterous lemony-thing-head, a bipedal bear and Rod, Jane and Freddy in a long running children's programme (and one self-parodying not-really-for-children clip that is still true to the show) that many should remember, or at least know about from nostalgia shows. He got big again amongst the student crowd (mumble mumble "ironic" mumble mumble?) about a decade after he appealed to them as children, so probably known widely for that phase, too.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:12 am UTC
by svenman
Charles Aznavour, French music legend, 94.

[Edit] And because nobody else is mentioning it: Montserrat Caballé, Spanish/Catalan music legend of a rather different genre, 85.

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:11 am UTC
by Soupspoon
Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft.

(Maybe he'll get to chat with Steve Jobs about their respective companies. Unless one of them went to The Other Place and the other did not. ;) )

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:57 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
You are of course assuming there's only two afterlives, while D&D currently has 17 (9 for the standard alignments, 8 for the in between alignments like "lawful neutral with evil tendencies", which is a hell-like place of unending warfare for all those "I was just following orders" types).

Re: Where Aren't They Now (Obituaries)

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:37 pm UTC
by Soupspoon
A hero of Telemark: Joachim Ronneberg, 99.