Netreker0 wrote:No. An ad hominem is a personal attack. An ad hominem fallacy is the wrongful belief that attacking the person invalidates the argument. Before you get pedantic, check your work.
Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is in which an argument is rebutted by
attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
'Ad hominem' is not a synonym for 'personal attack'. It's a personal attack in lieu
of an argument. It's targeting the speaker rather than the speaker's words -- hence the Latin ("to the man"). "You are a moron" is not an ad hominem; it's just a personal attack. "You are wrong because you are a moron" is an ad hominem.
Netreker0 wrote:Fair point about Germany, however. I thought you were the one who raised the issue of "countries that specifically ban fascists, the Nazi party, and overt support" of them, and from that inferred that you might care about Germany, arguably the well-known example of a modern liberal democracy that does that. However, I was also responding to someone else, so perhaps he was the one raising that issue, and I just got my wires crossed. If so, apologies.
Okay. I think you got your wires crossed during a the majority of your dialogue toward me? Because that German conversation is how most of your posts directed toward me read. Like you skimmed my post, skimmed someone else's posts, combined them, then wrote a reply based on this new imaginary post and directed it toward me. I can't address half your shit because you seem to be having a completely different conversation (one where you think I'm throwing out 'indignant straw man' asides and somehow manage to confuse thought experiments about morality with personal attacks against you).
Like, I get that you're probably trying to meet me half way here, but the fact is that at no point during this dialogue have I felt like you've actually put aside your bullshit, strapped on your big boy pants, and tried to have an adult conversation with me.