seladore wrote:North Dakota has 3 EVs, which is ~0.5% of the full 538. What I don't understand is how the EV system gives North Dakotans more of a say than simply using the popular vote (by population, ND is ~0.3% of the US).
Your number of electoral votes is the number of senators and congressmen you have. Congress is divided by population (with a minimum of 1 congresscritter per state), and you get 2 senators per state. So the minimum representation in the electoral college is 3.
lorenith wrote:You don't seem to understand the idea behind the electoral college in the first place based on what you have said.
I don't like with the electoral college, but there's nothing "wrong" with it if the person who won the popular vote loses through the electoral college. The electoral college was originally put in place to balance out the "excitable masses." People picked out the electoral college, and the electoral college picks the president, the electoral college is supposed to pick who they objectively think is the best for president, not who won the popular vote.
Close but not quite right. The electoral college was supposed to pick a slate of candidates for Congress to decide between. What the founding fathers missed is that people who want to become president would run national campaigns to outright become president, and not regional campaigns to get on that final slate.
lorenith wrote:Granted the electoral college now doesn't work the way it was originally meant to, because if someone "wins" the popular vote in a state, they also automatically "win" all the electoral college votes unless it's in a state that does them by proportion. Not to mention people I think are at least a little bit more educated now than they were when the electoral college was first put into place, although I guess there still are "excitable masses".
Originally the electoral college was not supposed to be decided by popular vote at all. It is up to each state to decide how it wanted to choose its electors. However as the nation evolved, states kept on deciding to choose electors by popular vote. The last time that a method other than popular vote was used was Colorado in 1876. It was discussed as a possibility in Florida in 2000 if the recounts took too long, but the Supreme Court intervened in time to keep that from happening.
There is incidentally a move to decide the election by the popular vote, and it does not require a Constitutional amendment to do it. We are apparenty 19% of the way there already. See http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/ for details.