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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:38 am UTC

Nevermind gay marriage...
A Japanese man has enlisted hundreds of people in a campaign to allow marriages between humans and cartoon characters, saying he feels more at ease in the "two-dimensional world."

Comic books are immensely popular in Japan, with some fictional characters becoming celebrities or even sex symbols.

Marriage is meanwhile on the decline as many young Japanese find it difficult to find life partners.

Taichi Takashita launched an online petition aiming for one million signatures to present to the government to establish a law on marriages with cartoon characters.

Within a week he has gathered more than 1,000 signatures through the Internet.

"I am no longer interested in three dimensions. I would even like to become a resident of the two-dimensional world," he wrote.

"However, that seems impossible with present-day technology. Therefore, at the very least, would it be possible to legally authorise marriage with a two-dimensional character?"

Befitting his desire to be two-dimensional, he listed no contact details, making it impossible to reach him for comment to explain if his campaign is serious or tongue-in-cheek.

But some people signing the petition are true believers.

"For a long time I have only been able to fall in love with two-dimensional people and currently I have someone I really love," one person wrote.

"Even if she is fictional, it is still loving someone. I would like to have legal approval for this system at any cost," the person wrote.

Japan only permits marriage between human men and women and gives no legal recognition to same-sex relationships.

Japan's fans of comic books, or "manga," sometimes go to extremes.

Earlier this month, a woman addicted to manga put out an online message seeking to kill her parents for asking her to throw away comic books that filled up three rooms.

Prime Minister Taro Aso is an avid fan of manga and recently complained that he has been too busy to read comic books since taking office.

Marriage is meanwhile on the decline as many young Japanese find it difficult to find life partners.
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Postby Lucrece » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:26 am UTC

With people like this, it's understandable that the Japanese might be reluctant to find life partners.

Although, I must admit, I always wanted to marry Spider Man. Those webs made for fantastic opportunities at kinkiness. :lol:
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Postby JayDee » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:30 am UTC

I want to know how she is supposed to say 'I do' and accept his proposal. I guess I could see it happening if the comic book in question is ongoing.

Marrying a comic book character will make it very easy for him to carry her over the threshold. Honeymoon can be cheap, too - she should fit in the overhead compartment.
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Postby The Reaper » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:34 am UTC

I'm ok with this, insolong as we get rid of all other marriage benefits for everyone that's married.

AKA, I think it's bloody retarded.

AKA, I want single person perks, such as family time in the military allowing single soldiers to spend time with their booze, instead of being forced to large events where non-single types bring their significant others and disallow booze. Bastards.

Oh, and they never got chose for shitty work schedules either, because they "had to go home to their family" while us single guys didn't.

Oh, and don't they get some sorta tax break for living together? If I live with a cartoon caricature, I'd like a tax break as well. Shit, I live with my dog. Can I count her as my child, so I can get tax breaks for that as well?

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Postby Malice » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:36 am UTC

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Marriage is meanwhile on the decline as many young Japanese find it difficult to find life partners.
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This is almost certainly the reason for this. I find the Japanese sexual situation tragically hilarious (or is hilariously tragic?). Japanese men treat women like second-class citizens; women stop marrying them, and find that they're much happier being single, thanks; Japanese men, instead of changing their ways, turn to substitutes like manga, porn, and "air-sex" contests. What a strange culture. I will be sad when they inevitably die out.
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Marriage is meanwhile on the decline as many young Japanese find it difficult to find life partners.
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This is almost certainly the reason for this. I find the Japanese sexual situation tragically hilarious (or is hilariously tragic?). Japanese men treat women like second-class citizens; women stop marrying them, and find that they're much happier being single, thanks; Japanese men, instead of changing their ways, turn to substitutes like manga, porn, and "air-sex" contests. What a strange culture. I will be sad when they inevitably die out.




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Postby clintonius » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:39 am UTC

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Postby Lucrece » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:42 am UTC

clintonius wrote:All y'allz telling me you wouldn't marry Aeris are gorram liars.


She was a bland character, to be honest. I much preferred Tifa ;p.
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Postby Azrael001 » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:45 am UTC

I think that they should allow marriage with two dimensional characters, but then when he tries to marry a cartoon/ comic book character they should point out that while very thin, print on paper does have a third dimension and continue to disallow the marriages.

The irony would be delicious.
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Postby The Reaper » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:51 am UTC

Azrael001 wrote:I think that they should allow marriage with two dimensional characters, but then when he tries to marry a cartoon/ comic book character they should point out that while very thin, print on paper does have a third dimension and continue to disallow the marriages.

The irony would be delicious.

What about ones represented on a computer screen, or a projection?

All in all, I prefer Sakaki from Azumanga Daioh... <3 That or Chii. <3computerwomen. Haha.

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Postby Gelsamel » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:34 am UTC

First MiniEpisode of the first Episode of Goku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei is about this, that's funny.
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Postby Xeio » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:32 am UTC

"Oh no! I spilled coffee on the love of my life! Guess I'll have to buy a new one."

Also, the 'consent' thing seems like a pretty big one here. I mean, you don't just magically decide someone is going to be your husband/wife and they are, they have a say there too. :P

I think it's funny that he admits to wanting to live in a fictional world but concedes that it is not 'technologically possible' to... exist in two dimensions???? What? His brain must be one dimensional. :P

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Postby Darkscull » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:13 am UTC

If they said which character they're in love with, it would be awesome if the writers of that series made her fall in love with some guy and marry him, with lots of gratuitous scenes about how she'll never love another man ever.
Also, it'd have to be a previously existing character that can in no way be imagined to be the guy who wanted to marry her.
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Postby Indon » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:25 pm UTC

Malice wrote:This is almost certainly the reason for this. I find the Japanese sexual situation tragically hilarious (or is hilariously tragic?). Japanese men treat women like second-class citizens; women stop marrying them, and find that they're much happier being single, thanks; Japanese men, instead of changing their ways, turn to substitutes like manga, porn, and "air-sex" contests. What a strange culture. I will be sad when they inevitably die out.


This.

Japan is ludicrously sexist (and racist, but there's no significant ethnic minorities for it to become obvious) for an industrialized country.

And, apparently, that sexism is driving them collectively insane.
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Re: Man wants to marry comic-book character

Postby GreaterSteven » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:37 pm UTC

It's amusing because a lot of japanese porn puts the men in positions of vulnerability or weakness...


On a similar note, why would they not want to fuck like rabbits? Japanese women are hot.

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Postby Malice » Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:21 am UTC

GreaterSteven wrote:On a similar note, why would they not want to fuck like rabbits? Japanese women are hot.


The point isn't that men don't want to have sex with women; it's that women don't want to have sex with men, because men have been treating them badly for hundreds of years. What men should do is change their ways; instead, they're turning to substitutions.
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Postby Kachi » Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:14 am UTC

Japanese women are hot.


Some Japanese women are hot... like the ones you're prone to see on the internet.

Actual Japanese women on average are... below average, and tend to not age well.

Personal opinion.

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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:32 pm UTC

Those must be the ones that don't come to Canada, then. O_o
JayDee wrote:I want to know how she is supposed to say 'I do' and accept his proposal. I guess I could see it happening if the comic book in question is ongoing.

Marrying a comic book character will make it very easy for him to carry her over the threshold. Honeymoon can be cheap, too - she should fit in the overhead compartment.
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We’ve no interest in the 3D. If we could, we’d like to live in a 2D world. However, with current technology, this is not possible. So at the very least, can we have marriage to 2D characters legally recognised? If this were to come to pass, I intend to marry Asahina Mikuru.
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Postby Julien » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:37 pm UTC

I really don't care if some japanese guys wants to marry Tifa or Aerith or Sakaki or Chii. They will cheat them with me anyway.
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Postby Gelsamel » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:50 pm UTC

Asahina Mikuru is annoying as hell though, who would want to marry her?
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Postby Julien » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:57 pm UTC

In fact, I think most japanese would like to marry Aerith and to cheat on her with Tifa.
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Postby Montrose » Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:57 pm UTC

Malice wrote:The point isn't that men don't want to have sex with women; it's that women don't want to have sex with men, because men have been treating them badly for hundreds of years. What men should do is change their ways; instead, they're turning to substitutions.



The interesting thing about Japan is that a majority of Japanese women have very little interest in pursuing political action to achieve equality. For a while, there was a Socialist Party in Japan led by a woman (electing a socialist woman to power is about the best thing you can ever do for the status of women everywhere), and she didn't draw a significant margin of female votes (a couple percent at most, I believe).

I think the problem is not quite as you put it. Instead, because men are at work all the time, most of the women they interact with are in similar career paths and those women aren't interested in marriage (for the sake of their careers). Basically, men working in the corporate world (being the most culturally influential 1/3 of the Japanese male population) have very, very few chances to meet women and the only women they do meet aren't interested, thus the frustration.

The assumption that Japanese women want to raise their status but are being forcibly held down is nice, from an equality pov, but doesn't fit with reality, alas.

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Postby MikeBabaguh » Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:19 pm UTC

Hmm...

A psychological disorder that prevents breeding. Seems like natural selection at work!
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Malice wrote:
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Marriage is meanwhile on the decline as many young Japanese find it difficult to find life partners.
Hello, ladies...

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This is almost certainly the reason for this. I find the Japanese sexual situation tragically hilarious (or is hilariously tragic?). Japanese men treat women like second-class citizens; women stop marrying them, and find that they're much happier being single, thanks; Japanese men, instead of changing their ways, turn to substitutes like manga, porn, and "air-sex" contests. What a strange culture. I will be sad when they inevitably die out.


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Postby Belial » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:44 pm UTC

Yeah, I mean, who cares if their society is all fucked up, as long as there's a vague, conceptual chance you might get laid, right?
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Belial wrote:Yeah, I mean, who cares if their society is all fucked up, as long as there's a vague, conceptual chance you might get laid, right?

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Don't you know? Belial CAN'T be the dark side, as everyone knows the Dark Side is all raptors. And just look at his hat!

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Belial wrote:Yeah, I mean, who cares if their society is all fucked up, as long as there's a vague, conceptual chance you might get laid, right?


I doubt the ramblings of a few crazies is a symptom of a fucked up society...

Their culture is different, and ridiculously eccentric. Since their young culture revolves heavily around anime and manga it's not unexpected that the crazies over in Japan have something to do with anime and manga. In America the crazies are all about the conspiracy theories etc., probably because of all the events in America that lead crazy people to try make up excuses for an "ordered world". Additionally, crazy 2D obsessed otaku are probably more vocal in Japan than in Western Countries (which I'm sure there will be a few of).

In that sense, I don't think it's that fucked up that some crazy Japanese people are crazy in a way that relates to anime. Hell - even anime makes fun of them.

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Montrose wrote:The assumption that Japanese women want to raise their status but are being forcibly held down is nice, from an equality pov, but doesn't fit with reality, alas.


I don't think you understand just how incredibly fucked up Japan is in this regard.

Japan isn't even at the "Feminism" stage of social development here. What they do have in terms of cultural gender equality is purely formal and legal, imposed upon them by the western world decades ago - women probably wouldn't even have the vote there if America hadn't occupied them after WWII.
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Belial wrote:Yeah, I mean, who cares if their society is all fucked up, as long as there's a vague, conceptual chance you might get laid, right?


I doubt the ramblings of a few crazies is a symptom of a fucked up society...


Believe it or not, I know the origins and going psychological explanations of moe.

I just attended a lecture on it a couple weeks ago, in fact.

I was referring more to that thing where japanese men, by and large, treat women (and their wives in particular) like crap, so they decide to stay unmarried in greater and greater numbers. The thing that was mentioned many times in this thread, and to which the person I was responding to was responding.
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Postby Noc » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:21 am UTC

Also, you can't force someone into marriage, can you? As in, both parties need to be willing and consenting . . . and I don't think fictional characters have a legal ability to give consent.

(I was going to go with "they don't legally exist" at first, but they do have a legal presence in terms of copyright law.)
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Postby GreaterSteven » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:24 am UTC

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Japanese women are hot.


Some Japanese women are hot... like the ones you're prone to see on the internet.

Actual Japanese women on average are... below average, and tend to not age well.

Personal opinion.


I went to Japan once. They really are almost always hot. Fact.

At least where I went...and we hopped around to pretty much everywhere.

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Belial wrote:I was referring more to that thing where japanese men, by and large, treat women (and their wives in particular) like crap
The sad thing is that the word "Japanese" can be taken out of this sentence, and it's still a true statement.

But yes, Japan has a special problem. It's not just women who are the victims, by the way. I went to Japan on a school trip, where we attended a school there for a week. At least half of us (including me) were sexually harassed (not assaulted, thank God) by some of the boys in that school. That kind of culture pervades everything.

So as far as I'm concerned, these jerks can marry their fictional characters if they want. At least that way, they might be less likely to assault and rape real women.

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Belial wrote:I was referring more to that thing where japanese men, by and large, treat women (and their wives in particular) like crap
The sad thing is that the word "Japanese" can be taken out of this sentence, and it's still a true statement.


Sadly true.
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Postby JayDee » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:12 am UTC

Noc wrote:I was going to go with "they don't legally exist" at first, but they do have a legal presence in terms of copyright law.
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Postby ConMan » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:19 am UTC

Noc wrote:Also, you can't force someone into marriage, can you? As in, both parties need to be willing and consenting . . . and I don't think fictional characters have a legal ability to give consent.

(I was going to go with "they don't legally exist" at first, but they do have a legal presence in terms of copyright law.)


Well, what happens in the event that the manga artist pens an entire wedding scene with Mr Otaku? Are you going to argue that the girl was coerced, and words put in her mouth? (Well, obviously ...)
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Postby Bakemaster » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:20 pm UTC

clintonius wrote:All y'allz telling me you wouldn't marry Aeris are gorram liars.

Is marrying the dead already legal there?
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Postby clintonius » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:46 pm UTC

No, but I saved a Pheonix Down, just in case.
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Postby Indon » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:46 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Believe it or not, I know the origins and going psychological explanations of moe.

I just attended a lecture on it a couple weeks ago, in fact.


Wait... you mean moe as in... moe?

There are people who research this?
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Postby wst » Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:33 pm UTC

Gelsamel wrote:Asahina Mikuru is annoying as hell though, who would want to marry her?

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