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AT&T censors internet

Postby bwang4066 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:15 am UTC

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Typically we don't allow links until after you've got five posts under your belt. I'll allow it this time.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Babam » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:29 am UTC

:O
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Kaiyas » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:47 am UTC

As much as I believe they're doing a service for many of us, they shouldn't have that kind of authority. Internet censorship is pretty serious business, no matter what site is blocked. Plus, this is fucking 4chan. AT&T's gonna have to dedicate a lot of resources if they want to keep them out for good.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Bright Shadows » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:56 am UTC

>_>
This was a baaaaad idea on their part. That is all.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby TheSkyMovesSideways » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:03 am UTC

First comment:
First they came for the pedophiles, and I said nothing, for I was not a pedophile.


Awesome. :lol:
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Angua » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:17 am UTC

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xkcd

What IP blocks do their corporate offices have? If they're really cutting off my trashy time-wasting web entertainment, I'm cutting off theirs.



srika

Yeah! XKCD joins in! USA! USA! USA!

(Wait. I'm an Indian.)


p0ss

Don't worry mate, we're all part of the cultural empire these days.



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WWW! WWW! WWW!





Watch out Randell, they might come after you next. You clearly do Stick Figure Porn



sje46



Really? It's not a webcomic of porn, guy, it's a webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language. That is why we always see those cunning linguists.



knylok

That said, he is the best person to "stick it to the man".


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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby obituary » Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:26 am UTC

I heartily approve, Randall.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby i » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:08 am UTC

Save Fortran!

What a second. There's no primary source. Looks fake.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby sje46 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:18 am UTC

Yeah, the chats are crazy
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This thread is on the ED page for this. Who out it on?
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Aradae » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:11 am UTC

Guys guys guys! I found Russel's teapot! . . . nevermind, it was just Jesus flying to Mars again.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby RynTheTyn » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:39 am UTC

I don't even visit 4chan, but that's just wrong. AT&T needs to go down for this.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby ParanoidAndroid » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:43 am UTC

Hold your ground! Hold your ground! Sons of 4chan, of xkcd, my brothers, I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the connections of trolls fail, when we forsake our lulz and break all bonds of anonymity, but it is not this day. An hour of censors and blacklists, when the age of lulz comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight!! By all that you hold dear on this good Internet, I bid you stand, Men of the West basement dwelling nerds!

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Cryopyre » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:45 am UTC

TheSkyMovesSideways wrote:First comment:
First they came for the pedophiles, and I said nothing, for I was not a pedophile.


Awesome. :¡This cheese is burning me!:


I burned my cheese heavily on that one. Or the cheese burned me...

Anyways this is a bad idea, not just because it's censorship, but because they're messing with 4chan, imo the most powerful site on the internet, simply because it's dominated with people who are willing to take action in the most childish ways.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Texas_Ben » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:50 am UTC

Oh dear...

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Split Phallus Boil » Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:51 am UTC

Why DDoS an ISP?
They can handle most of what we throw.

IF you guys want to get anything done, crapflood their help lines with repetitive, but pseudo-legitimate queries about their recent censorship.

I'll throw in a few calls tomorrow, for sure.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby MissingNo » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:00 am UTC

Randall - you're forgetting to screw over the iPhone and other AT&T Wireless users.
http://pastebin.ca/1508402

As per AT&T's mMode and MEdia Net standards published by AT&T devCentral, that's most - if not all - gateway IP blocks for the entirety of AT&T Mobility.

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Postby The-Rabid-Monkey » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:21 am UTC

It seems the current plan of attack involves stock crashing.

There are plans to hack the BBC website and post on the front page that the CEO of AT&T was shot dead in a robbery.
Plans to spread rumours of CEO's death
Plans to spread rumours about the iPhone being non exclusive sooner than expected with better plans available on Comcast.

If it all goes well, they could end up in financial ruin, in the depression. Ouch.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby lordlicorice » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:23 am UTC

Kaiyas wrote:Internet censorship is pretty serious business, no matter what site is blocked.

Yes and why would AT&T be the ones in control? Where do they get this idea that telecom companies should control site content?

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Postby Gears » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:23 am UTC

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Sir-Taco » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:32 am UTC

I happen to have AT&T, and I rarely use 4chan, but this just tells me that if this gets worse Im gonna lose a lot of sites I actually go to such as xkcd.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Freakish » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:47 am UTC

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby thatguy » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:57 am UTC

Some people in IRC are saying 4chan is down, but they can see xkcd.com just fine. What exactly are the xkcd admins doing?

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby videogamesizzle » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:01 am UTC

I've heard that this is because of the frequent DDoS attacks on 4chan as of late. Still, 4chan is not a site free of attacks. Surely they would have done something else sooner. And the length of time before they responded to this is kind of fishy. *adjusts tinfoil hat*
At least I hope this is all it is. If they're really trying to censor the web, as I saw on ireport:
Undoubtedly, it is only the first shot fired in the war for net neutrality.


Could be interesting.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby SummerGlauFan » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:03 am UTC

Why does the company think it's their responsibility to block the site, though? At most, they could offer a package of blocked sites for customers to get if they want, but a universal block by a company? Seriously?
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Postby sje46 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:08 am UTC

thatguy wrote:Some people in IRC are saying 4chan is down, but they can see xkcd.com just fine. What exactly are the xkcd admins doing?

Waht .. .are you talking about?


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Postby Freakish » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:10 am UTC

Just pointing out the the OP is a first post.
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Postby thatguy » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:14 am UTC

Some sites were reporting that xkcd.com was turning away all AT&T IPs, but I talked to people on AT&T who couldn't access /b/ and were able to get to xkcd.com.

And it is indeed over now.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Sir-Taco » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:14 am UTC

Well this will be interesting as to hear why they did this.
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Postby Freakish » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:17 am UTC

For all we know 4chan could have just decided to block all AT&T IPs.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Hitsuzen » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:19 am UTC

The shout heard 'round the tubes.

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Postby Heavenlytoaster » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:24 am UTC

Freakish wrote:For all we know 4chan could have just decided to block all AT&T IPs.



Maybe, but this makes me think not:
http://status.4chan.org/

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Freakish » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:39 am UTC

Heavenlytoaster wrote:
Freakish wrote:For all we know 4chan could have just decided to block all AT&T IPs.



Maybe, but this makes me think not:
http://status.4chan.org/


I was just trying to say that even though it probably was AT&T it's possible that it's just prank, a hacker, or flying space aliens from Xec'Plop
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby pastrybot » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:41 am UTC

It's over? Not here in Austin, at least. Still total blockage for me.

In addition, someone managed to contact high-up AT&T customer service (maybe executive-level?) and they did confirm that they blocked "portions of the site 4chan.org" for undisclosed reasons. They also said that they contacted the owners of 4chan; moot has said that he has yet to have a reply.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby el_loco_avs » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:46 am UTC

The posts on the bottom of that reddit page now claim the block was due to DDoS attacks on 4chan being routed through them and affecting network performance. Which would be a reasonable cause to block 4chan temporarily I guess.

I will be interested to see how this unfolds.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby sje46 » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:51 am UTC

Breaking news from IRC:
"The biggest mistake 4chan could make right now is in attempting to undermine our corporation. Any hostilities, be they intentional or incidental, will be met with a proportional response." - Randall Stephenson, chairman of AT&T, early morning over 9000/27

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Re: AT&T censors internet

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Source?
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby RynTheTyn » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:57 am UTC

videogamesizzle wrote:I've heard that this is because of the frequent DDoS attacks on 4chan as of late. Still, 4chan is not a site free of attacks. Surely they would have done something else sooner. And the length of time before they responded to this is kind of fishy. *adjusts tinfoil hat*
At least I hope this is all it is. If they're really trying to censor the web, as I saw on ireport:
Undoubtedly, it is only the first shot fired in the war for net neutrality.


Could be interesting.


It just seems strange that they'd decide to pull the plug on the site now, 4chan seems to get attacked every other week but they've never gotten dumped on the ISP level before. It's also highly suspicious that they only decided to block img.4chan.org if it was really a DDoS attack, because when they get attacked every other time, it seems like the whole site gets hit, not just the server hosting /b/.

On the broader issue of internet censorship, I wish that people would understand that it's not just the government that censors, and that in countries where there is censorship, a lot of it ends up being self-censorship. I got into it with somebody on Twitter who was arguing that in the free market, ISPs have the right to censor whatever they want. Technically, they do have that right, however, how hard is it for people to comprehend that the government doesn't need to step in and censor directly when private enterprise is willing to do it for them? I've lived where ISPs did just that, some ISPs decided to block certain domains where there was the potential of content that the government might not like, others didn't block, but you'd never know for certain that the website that you'd been using for years might not wind up on the ISP's block list one day. I suppose that's why I'm making such a big deal about a site that I don't even visit--I don't want to see the US head down the path where ISPs decide willy nilly to block sites because they might contain content that might be illegal or objectionable.

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Magma » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:54 am UTC

I suggest some one call the AT&T NOC for an update. 214-286-5193

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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby Triangle_Man » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:50 pm UTC

This is insane. This is an example of internet censorship, and it's been committed against one of the most vocal (and potentally agressive) groups on the internet.

I'll be watching this incedent and it's outcome with great interest.
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Re: AT&T censors internet

Postby BlackSails » Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:52 pm UTC

I am terrified of 4chan. AT&T does not know what they have done.


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