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Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Robstickle » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:11 pm UTC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8560469.stm

Internet 'in running' for Nobel Peace Prize

The internet is among a record 237 individuals and organisations nominated for this year's Nobel Peace Prize.

The number of nominations surpasses last year's record of 205 nominations.

The internet's nomination has been championed by the Italian version of Wired magazine for helping advance "dialogue, debate and consensus".

The director of the Nobel Institute, Geir Lundestad, told BBC News that the organisation had received "thousands of nominations" for the coveted prize.

"Some were nominated by one person, others by 10, others by 100," he said.

The secretive organisation does not release the list of nominees, but nominators sometimes announce their choices.

The nomination for the internet is supported by 2003 Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi and the founder of the $100 laptop project Nicholas Negroponte.

Nominations can be put forward by former laureates, members of national governments and select university professors, among others.

Others on the shortlist are thought to include Russian human rights activist Svetlana Gannushkina and Chinese activist Liu Xiaobo.

The final list was decided by the Norwegian Nobel Committee - which has responsibility for the Peace Prize - at its first meeting of the year on 9 March, where the five-member panel was able to add its own nominations.

"The announcement of this year's laureate will be made on the 8 October," Mr Lundestad said. "The prize amount is very likely be the same as in recent years."

Last year's 10m Swedish kronor ($1.4m) prize was awarded to US President Barack Obama.

It is unclear who would accept the prize if the internet were to win.

Internet for Peace, set up to help support the nomination of the internet, says the prize would be "a Nobel for each and every one of us".

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Omegaton » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:18 pm UTC

Is the internet an organization, or run by a single organization? I mean, the Internet is great, but it doesn't really belong to anyone specifically.

Robstickle wrote:It is unclear who would accept the prize if the internet were to win.

Al Gore! Al Gore!

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Dauric » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:34 pm UTC

Time's person of the year for 2006 was "You" so it's not completely unprecedented. Awarding the cash and the medal may be problematic, or it could go to some sort of "User Contribution Projects" fund that provides start-up grants for projects that facilitate dialog and communication.

Still kinda' cool though. Can we put "Won the Nobel Peace Prize" on our respective resume's?
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Omegaton » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:36 pm UTC

Dauric wrote:Still kinda' cool though. Can we put "Won the Nobel Peace Prize" on our respective resume's?

Yes, but the Nobel Prize inflation will mean that it will only matter if you have two or more.

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Bassoon » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:57 pm UTC

So what are you guys going to do with your medals?

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby mmmcannibalism » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:02 pm UTC

Bassoon wrote:So what are you guys going to do with your medals?


Hang it next to my person of the year plaque.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Dauric » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:11 pm UTC

mmmcannibalism wrote:
Bassoon wrote:So what are you guys going to do with your medals?


Hang it next to my person of the year plaque.


Target practice.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby mmmcannibalism » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:31 pm UTC

Dauric wrote:
mmmcannibalism wrote:
Bassoon wrote:So what are you guys going to do with your medals?


Hang it next to my person of the year plaque.


Target practice.


Amusingly, my government teacher's lesson plan on political cartoons has a cartoon where obama is dressed as a soldier using the medal as a clay pigeon(forget how but it also referenced afghanistan explicitely to satirize the scalation while winning a prize.)
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Postby TheKrikkitWars » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:55 pm UTC

Omegaton wrote:Is the internet an organization, or run by a single organization? I mean, the Internet is great, but it doesn't really belong to anyone specifically.

Robstickle wrote:It is unclear who would accept the prize if the internet were to win.

Al Gore! Al Gore!



I'm dissapointed in you guys, surely the geekery round here stretches far enough that it's obvious that the IETF (the people who handle RFC's; maintaining and developing the standards that shape the net) are the most worth candidate for that.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Diadem » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:16 am UTC

Wouldn't it make more sense to award the prize to pivotal figures in the development of the internet then? Like Tim Berners-Lee?

Or award it to wikipedia.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby phillipsjk » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:00 am UTC

If the nominators wanted to nominate a specific person, why wouldn't they do so?
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Robstickle » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:02 am UTC

Obviously it should be Moot!

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby nowfocus » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:04 am UTC

Article wrote:The internet's nomination has been championed by the Italian version of Wired magazine for helping advance "dialogue, debate and consensus".

Ah yes, I've seen much consensus on the internet in my time.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby psychosomaticism » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:56 am UTC

nowfocus wrote:
Article wrote:The internet's nomination has been championed by the Italian version of Wired magazine for helping advance "dialogue, debate and consensus".

Ah yes, I've seen much consensus on the internet in my time.

Eh, at least it's a means to get consensus. The internet is a means with which the common people can gather and discuss things, as opposed to having the government act as liaison for cultures, or paper modes of notification between locals, etc. It's information, but it's also a place to have a debate without feeling like you're being ignored (although for a lot of the time you are; it's more that there's actually the chance that there'll be people to read what you have to say). I semi-agree to this nomination, though I doubt it'll do much, as the internet is doing pretty well on its own, and doesn't really need any more recognition. Couldn't hurt, I guess.

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby LuNatic » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:09 am UTC

Robstickle wrote:Obviously it should be Moot!


Yeah, something to do with 4chan would fit right in with Kissinger and Arafat. How about Pedobear?
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Lazar » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:23 am UTC

This reminds me of the time that Time Magazine's Person of the Year was "You". Gagh.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby The Reaper » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:50 am UTC

Its still a better person/thing than a certain president that recently won it. At least it has done SOMETHING for the world. Also, ARPA likes medals. :3

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby mercutio_stencil » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:45 pm UTC

LuNatic wrote:
Robstickle wrote:Obviously it should be Moot!


Yeah, something to do with 4chan would fit right in with Kissinger and Arafat. How about Pedobear?


Maybe Goatse, after all, how can there be strife and conflict when everyone is staring at...that...thing...

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Endless Mike » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:14 pm UTC

Yes, when I think of peace, I think of the place where I can be called a "niggerfaggot" by 12 year olds playing M-rated video games.

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Postby Sizik » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:13 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to award the prize to pivotal figures in the development of the internet then? Like Tim Berners-Lee?

Or award it to wikipedia.


The Internet ≠ the Web. The prize should go to Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Dibley » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:40 pm UTC

Have you all forgotten that nominations mean essentially nothing? Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini have all been nominated.

Here's wikipedia's list of people who can nominate someone (or, apparently, something):
* Members of national assemblies and governments and members of the Inter-Parliamentary Union,
* Members of the Permanent Court of Arbitration and the International Court of Justice at the Hague,
* Members of Institut de Droit International,
* University professors of history, political science, philosophy, law and theology, university presidents and directors of peace research and international affairs institutes,
* Former recipients, including board members of organisations that have previously won the prize,
* Present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, and
* Former permanent advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

Professors of Theology? Seriously? Anyways, the internet was nominated by a former winner (the $100 laptop guy).

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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Mother Superior » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:47 pm UTC

Dibley wrote:Have you all forgotten that nominations mean essentially nothing? Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini have all been nominated.


Have you all forgotten that the Nobel Peace Prize in itself means essentially nothing? It's given out by Norway for goodness' sake.
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Re: Internet in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby the_bandersnatch » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:01 pm UTC

Mother Superior wrote:Have you all forgotten that the Nobel Peace Prize in itself means essentially nothing? It's given out by Norway for goodness' sake.


What you got against Norway?

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Postby Mother Superior » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:11 pm UTC

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Mother Superior wrote:Have you all forgotten that the Nobel Peace Prize in itself means essentially nothing? It's given out by Norway for goodness' sake.


What you got against Norway?

I'm a Swede. It's in me blood.
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Postby '; DROP DATABASE;-- » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:50 am UTC

I like the idea of any prize money being donated to Wikipedia and/or upgrading the infrastructure itself worldwide. If, of course, it were to win anything.

The Internet has indeed revolutionized communication though. It's one of the more awesome outcomes of someone going "hmm, what would happen if we plugged them all into eachother?" :D

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Re: blagotube in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby wst » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:47 am UTC

Robstickle wrote:Obviously it should be Moot!
Yeah, the guy who's just declared war on another website because of spammers.

Real peaceful. (But justified, I guess)
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Postby Dthen » Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:45 am UTC

Because we all know Nobel himself never did anything bad at all. :roll:
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Postby smw543 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:30 pm UTC

Dthen wrote:Because we all know Nobel himself never did anything bad at all. :roll:
...the guilt from which caused him to create the Nobel Prize. What's your point?

I think the idea to nominate the internet was a waste of a vote, considering it isn't actually eligible. Same if he had the sense to specifically choose a group that helped develop the internet—should an inventor who improves the printing process win a Nobel Prize for Literature just because they enabled a lot of good books (especially keeping in mind that they also enabled an equal if not greater number of bad ones)?

However, I do like the idea of giving it to Wikipedia, both because it has made a huge positive impact, and, more importantly, because it might finally stop those stupid jokes by so-called comedians ("Did you know [obviously false information]? I know it's true because I saw it on Wikipedia! HAR HAR HAR!)
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Postby wst » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:41 pm UTC

He didn't use dynamite for killing people. It's a legit mining tool anyway, and has helped humanity a lot. So what that other people used it to kill people? Not his fault >_>
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Postby Diadem » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:23 pm UTC

Not his fault, I agree.

Didn't stop him from feeling bad about it. People are like that.
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Postby Josephine » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:41 pm UTC

You could replace nobel with Einstein in almost all of those situations...
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Postby smw543 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:26 am UTC

wst wrote:He didn't use dynamite for killing people. It's a legit mining tool anyway, and has helped humanity a lot. So what that other people used it to kill people? Not his fault >_>

Well, he also owned a major arms manufacturer (IIRC, the company mostly made artillery... which is somewhat less useful for mining). Still irrelevant, though.
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Re: blagotube in the running for Nobel Peace Prize.

Postby Zamfir » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:01 pm UTC

wst wrote:He didn't use dynamite for killing people. It's a legit mining tool anyway, and has helped humanity a lot. So what that other people used it to kill people? Not his fault >_>

He ownded Bofors, which used to be a steel foundry, but he turned it into one of the largest artillery factories in the world. I think the money he used to buy Bofors came mostly from mining uses of gelignite, but by the time he dies his fortune was very much based on arms manufacturing.


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