Krugman on Texas; Sailer on Krugman

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Re: Krugman on Texas; Sailer on Krugman

Postby Jahoclave » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:55 pm UTC

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Jahoclave wrote:What makes me wonder, who is the severe mentally handicapped person making 180K a year? I thought G.W. was worth more than that.
Probably an athlete.

Likely, but I was really just going for a cheap shot at Bush rather than actually caring. Because, well, every so often I'm not above that sort of thing.

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Re: Krugman on Texas; Sailer on Krugman

Postby nowfocus » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:08 pm UTC

So, a few things going on here.

First, its kinda silly to take shots at an article for not controlling for enough relevant factors when you yourself are only controlling for one, being race. Krugman was writing an article for the general population, not an academic paper, so its held to a different standard. In my mind, the question is whether nor not Krugman misrepresented the situation, rather than whether or not he omitted controls. I'd argue that he didn't misrepresent the situation.

What could be driving the result were seeing? I think this is all consistent with Texas high schools being easier than national average. There are two ways you can evaluate the relative quality of the education there: look at factors that are known to correlate strongly with high school performance, and look at metrics that investigate post high school success. As Krugman says, Texas does very poorly on child health and wealth, which are known to correlated strongly with performance. Post high school, if you look at college graduation rates you see Texas does worse at all levels.
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Re: Krugman on Texas; Sailer on Krugman

Postby omgryebread » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:06 am UTC

Jahoclave wrote:What makes me wonder, who is the severe mentally handicapped person making 180K a year? I thought G.W. was worth more than that.

Just to nitpick, they are not even mildly mentally retarded. The DSM-IV requires three criteria for mental retardation, one of which is 70 or below. In an academic environment, they'd be in special ed, but they may or may not get a diploma, depends on stuff other than IQ.
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