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Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Arariel » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:42 am UTC

Reuters wrote:CHARLOTTE, N.C./WASHINGTON, D.C. (Reuters) - Anonymous, a hacker group sympathetic to WikiLeaks, plans to release e-mails obtained from Bank of America Corp early Monday morning, according to posts on the group's Twitter feed.

The group, unrelated to the document leak website founded by Julian Assange, said it plans to release documents exposing "corruption and fraud" at the largest U.S. bank by assets.

A representative of Anonymous said the documents relate to the issue of whether Bank of America has improperly foreclosed on homes. The representative added that he had not seen the documents, but he has been briefed on their contents.

A Bank of America Corp spokesman said the documents were non-foreclosure related clerical and administrative documents stolen by a former Balboa Insurance employee.

The division -- which BofA has since agreed to sell to Australian insurer QBE Insurance Group -- provides mortgage and auto insurance for banks, and provides home insurance for consumers.

"We are confident that his extravagant assertions are untrue," the spokesman said.


Sounds good, hope the info turns out to be big.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby CorruptUser » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:48 am UTC

Sigh, have our media institutions become so worthless that it's up to /b/ to expose corruption?

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Iulus Cofield » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:49 am UTC

I know your question was rhetorical...but yes.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby drkslvr » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:17 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Sigh, have our media institutions become so worthless that it's up to /b/ to expose corruption?

if it's true, it's both sad and hilarious. but i think we should wait and see. maybe BoA isn't lying... very much.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby sourmìlk » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:07 am UTC

Also, if anonymous has access to those documents, why has one idiot not gone off and released them already? It's not like /b/-tards actually have self-restraint.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Hawknc » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:19 am UTC

sourmìlk wrote:Also, if anonymous has access to those documents, why has one idiot not gone off and released them already? It's not like /b/-tards actually have self-restraint.

Because "anonymous" doesn't. Some guy does, and at least one other guy (the one who runs the Anon twitter feed) plans to release them to the public.

Relevant twitter is http://twitter.com/#!/OperationLeakS, getting 503 on some of the links though.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby MikeBabaguh » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:07 am UTC

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby juststrange » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:05 pm UTC

I'm curious how long it will be before Anon collapses under their own weight and image. Pretty soon, anyone who pulls any sort of hack, be it white hat or black hat, will just claim they are Anon. The public won't know the difference, but the "real" Anon will probably get twerked (see any serial killer on film that is copy-catted and pissed at the person for dragging down thier image). That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby PeterCai » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:36 pm UTC

juststrange wrote:I'm curious how long it will be before Anon collapses under their own weight and image. Pretty soon, anyone who pulls any sort of hack, be it white hat or black hat, will just claim they are Anon. The public won't know the difference, but the "real" Anon will probably get twerked (see any serial killer on film that is copy-catted and pissed at the person for dragging down thier image). That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Radical_Initiator » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:42 pm UTC

juststrange wrote:That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


Abusing cats is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby podbaydoor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:14 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Sigh, have our media institutions become so worthless that it's up to /b/ to expose corruption?

Legitimate media institutions are nominally bound by ethics agreements not to commit outright illegalities to steal documents themselves. Limited to cultivating sources who will talk, Sunshine Laws, and sources who will go come forward to the institution with documents they stole. It's why neither Wikileaks nor Anonymous attaches the journalist labels to themselves.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby zmatt » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:32 pm UTC

They can't be affiliated with /b/ in any way. If they were then these documents would have already been released. It's just a wikileaks sympathizer claiming to be Anon and the media and public at large are too ignorant to know that difference.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby KnightExemplar » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:39 pm UTC

zmatt wrote:They can't be affiliated with /b/ in any way. If they were then these documents would have already been released. It's just a wikileaks sympathizer claiming to be Anon and the media and public at large are too ignorant to know that difference.


This.

Although, there is one other possibility. They are affiliated with /b/ and are pulling a trolling operation. This is why I only listen to Anon when something happens.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby zmatt » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:14 pm UTC

KnightExemplar wrote:
zmatt wrote:They can't be affiliated with /b/ in any way. If they were then these documents would have already been released. It's just a wikileaks sympathizer claiming to be Anon and the media and public at large are too ignorant to know that difference.


This.

Although, there is one other possibility. They are affiliated with /b/ and are pulling a trolling operation. This is why I only listen to Anon when something happens.


That could also be true come to think of it. So either it isn't /b/, or if it is then they are trolling for the lolz. You know, this could probably be answered pretty easily if we just watch 4chan's IRC.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Dauric » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:16 pm UTC

KnightExemplar wrote:
zmatt wrote:They can't be affiliated with /b/ in any way. If they were then these documents would have already been released. It's just a wikileaks sympathizer claiming to be Anon and the media and public at large are too ignorant to know that difference.


This.

Although, there is one other possibility. They are affiliated with /b/ and are pulling a trolling operation. This is why I only listen to Anon when something happens.


And now I have images of /b/ releasing classified documents annotated by lolcats, "NO U", and other memes photoshopped on to the original document.

Of course the irony would be that /b/ releases such an annotated document, but the media can't publish it for the futanari pasted to the image.

zmatt wrote:That could also be true come to think of it. So either it isn't /b/, or if it is then they are trolling for the lolz. You know, this could probably be answered pretty easily if we just watch 4chan's IRC.


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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Scuttlemutt » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:26 pm UTC

When did Anonymous start being a single person/group? I always thought it was a "I am Sparticus!" sort of thing.

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Postby KnightExemplar » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:46 pm UTC

Scuttlemutt wrote:When did Anonymous start being a single person/group? I always thought it was a "I am Sparticus!" sort of thing.


Ever since the media misrepresented them as a single person/group. Didn't you get the memo?
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Dauric » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:52 pm UTC

Scuttlemutt wrote:When did Anonymous start being a single person/group? I always thought it was a "I am Sparticus!" sort of thing.


"Anon" is used so frequently by 4Chan/b/ when they're doing something horrifying/amusing/illegal and public that at this point anyone claiming to be doing something under the mantle of Anonymous is going to raise questions about associations with /b/.

Personally I don't see /b/ doing something like revealing corporate or government secrets unless there was some degree of digital vandalism to go along with it. Gigantic animated gif images with tacgnol summoning lighting to burn/redact the document as you try to read it, or a Flash presentation that X-seconds in to reading a document Admiral Ackbar pops up to proclaim it's a trap and you're redirected to meatspin.

And yeah, I know, I'm putting ideas on to the internet.

If it's a legit leak than I doubt that /b/ is involved, but we haven't seen the leaked docs yet to know if it's real or someone blowing smoke.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Iulus Cofield » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:59 pm UTC

I don't think Anonymous can accurately have cohesive personality traits, goals, or tendencies ascribed to them, at least not many. Like any group, there is a lot of individual depersonalization in actions, but the lack of cohesion and mask of anonymity means that there are many invisible splinter groups, each with its own collective personality and goals. I have seen threads full of hacktivists on /b/, I have seen threads with one aspiring hacktivist being booed and discouraged by countless others. I see no reason to suspect whoever is behind this is not fairly termed "part of Anonymous," although the fact that it hasn't been released at all yet fairly strongly indicates that no more than a few people are involved.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby zmatt » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:00 pm UTC

Its also worth pointing out that there is a difference between being anonymous and being Anonymous. These guys as far as I can tell are calling themselves Anonymous, which implies ties to 4chan. I doubt they have such ties, for obvious reasons, but by calling yourself Anonymous and not anonymous invokes it.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Iulus Cofield » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:05 pm UTC

I think it is worth clarifying the term "has ties to 4chan". As someone who visits 4chan and has passively observed some of the activism spawning from it, I would say the only requirement to having ties is posting on /b/ at least once or having read ideas which directly contributed to the activism.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby zmatt » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:20 pm UTC

i would say that they actively post on the boards and are involved with the planning and carrying out of raids that are either planned on 4chan proper or it's irc channel. just because you saw /b/ once doesn't mean you are acting as part of Anon. imo.
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Even if that one time you were there, you downloaded an infographic detailing how to carry out some political aim then followed the instructions?

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Postby Babam » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:32 pm UTC

Anon is Anon, simple as that. Any one who identifies with the collective and carries something out under the collectives name has done something as the collective. With the rise of media coverage for Anonymous actions and operations, I'm starting to see a lot of people who don't really know who or what Anon is. The best way to find out what Anon is and how it arose is to read the ED article on it. It provides a pretty comprehensive history, along with clear parameters for defining who is Anon and who isn't.

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Postby Hawknc » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:38 pm UTC

Which one of those is running the Twitter account and therefore this particular leak?

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby LaserGuy » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:44 pm UTC

Didn't WikiLeaks claim to have some documents from a bank awhile back? I thought there was something about a hard drive that they have received some months ago.

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Griffin » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:14 pm UTC

It's why neither Wikileaks nor Anonymous attaches the journalist labels to themselves.


This is just a lie. Wikileaks consider themselves journalists, and do not break any laws to gather their documents. They are all provided by outside sources.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby KnightExemplar » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:40 pm UTC

LaserGuy wrote:Didn't WikiLeaks claim to have some documents from a bank awhile back? I thought there was something about a hard drive that they have received some months ago.


Yes, they have yet to leak it for some reason. Its rumored to be from Bank of America, but no one actually knows. IMO, this makes for a good trolling opportunity, which is why my gut instinct about this "story" is typical /b/tard troll fest.
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Postby podbaydoor » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:10 pm UTC

Griffin wrote:
It's why neither Wikileaks nor Anonymous attaches the journalist labels to themselves.


This is just a lie. Wikileaks consider themselves journalists, and do not break any laws to gather their documents. They are all provided by outside sources.

I'm almost certain I've heard interviews where Assange classifies Wikileaks as falling more on the activist spectrum than journalist spectrum.
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Postby Babam » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:18 pm UTC

Hawknc wrote:Which one of those is running the Twitter account and therefore this particular leak?

Anonymous is running the twitter account. If the owner of said account identifies with Anon and works towards the collectives goals, he is anon.
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Anonymous is a metahuman (not the DC comic variety)

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Postby Dark567 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 pm UTC

Well, they overhyped that. Nothing particularly interesting, some mortgage fraud from one of its subsidies, mostly involving deleting documents that would send up a red flag to auditors. This Email from the leaker is really odd. Encouraging interoffice relationships? Thats bizarre among corporations. Really bizarre, so much so I don't even think I believe it.
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Postby Obby » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:05 pm UTC

Dark567 wrote:Encouraging interoffice relationships? Thats bizarre among corporations. Really bizarre, so much so I don't even think I believe it.


It's really not that surprising. Some smaller companies that are looking for employees tell their current ones to see if their spouses or relatives would be interested in positions, provided they meet the qualifications. At my current workplace there are three married guys with their spouses that work here with them, and it's encouraged by the owners of the company.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

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Radical_Initiator wrote:
juststrange wrote:That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


Abusing cats is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.


Or bringing down lolcats, seeing as the internet is more of their element.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Dauric » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:45 pm UTC

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Radical_Initiator wrote:
juststrange wrote:That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


Abusing cats is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.


Or bringing down lolcats, seeing as the internet is more of their element.


This is, I believe, what Radical Initiator was referring to.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Triangle_Man » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:47 pm UTC

Babam wrote:
Hawknc wrote:Which one of those is running the Twitter account and therefore this particular leak?

Anonymous is running the twitter account. If the owner of said account identifies with Anon and works towards the collectives goals, he is anon.


That makes sense, given the structure of the 4chan community.
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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby addams » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:27 pm UTC

Radical_Initiator wrote:
juststrange wrote:That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


Abusing cats is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.


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Postby Woofsie » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:42 pm UTC

addams wrote:
Radical_Initiator wrote:
juststrange wrote:That said, they'd have to do something Anon wouldn't do, and thats a very small list.


Abusing cats is the only thing that comes immediately to mind.


Are those red light things, that, trigger the cat to react without the cat's written consent, abuse?

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Re: Anonymous plans on releasing BoA documents

Postby Vash » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:57 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Sigh, have our media institutions become so worthless that it's up to /b/ to expose corruption?


At least they are dying out because of it.

Hooray for /b/!

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