yurell wrote:I'm sorry, I really don't understand your reasoning. It's legal to own them as slaves, it's legal to slaughter them for no reason, it's even legal to keep them in a factory-farm where they go insane, but it shouldn't be legal to have sex with them? I honestly don't see why; is consent an issue? If so, when did they consent to be slaves & slaughtered? Never. If it's acceptable to butcher them, it should be acceptable to have sex with them, so long the animal doesn't experience unnecessary pain.
This last restriction is already in place (for the most part) in holding the animals in forced servitude and slaughtering them, so why would it be harder to apply to the realm of sexual relations?
Well, I didn't say that I'm ok with the rest of that completely either, it was just brought up in discussion with that topic, and like I said, it is unnecessary to have sex with an animal under any situation.
Using animals for labor can be phased out in many instances, not all, but it is a good thing to move that way.
It might not seem obvious if you've peeked in on the "possibility of a rational ... global warming debate" thread, but I do actually have pretty strong positions regarding uh... stewardship of the environment? So as much as I enjoy hamburgers, I think we'd all be better off eating a lot less meat, beef in particular, because of all the issues with resource usage, land usage, water pollution, and then you stack on raising animals to slaughter and butcher them on top of a big environmental mess... suffice to say I'm looking forward to being able to culture meat on demand.
Nonetheless, there are arguable situations wherein animals may need to be raised for labor or slaughter... there aren't any wherein animals may need to be raised for sex with humans, are there?
In that situation, you can look at things like disease vectors, mental trauma, physical trauma, and sure, I suppose there could be cases where the animal was perfectly happy... but I'd rather not leave a semi-legal case to provide some sort of justification, like I said, without a good reason for it, and clear reasons against it, why be lenient?