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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby orthogon » Fri May 04, 2018 8:24 am UTC

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Postby Soupspoon » Fri May 04, 2018 1:23 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:They promise swift thread-splitting, fair moderation and to repeal Godwin's Law.

You know who else would have repealed Godwin's law, don't ya..?

Stalin!

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I don't think davean is really a mod ,though.

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Let me consult the forum rules on how we shall smite the nonbeliever.

It says here that, hmm, Thou shalt stoneth ye blasphephemer. Alright, anyone got any weed so we can get Zamfir stoned?

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Postby ucim » Fri May 04, 2018 5:59 pm UTC

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Postby Soupspoon » Fri May 04, 2018 6:08 pm UTC

ucim wrote:Well, my garden is full of weeds, and full of stones. But alas, I am also heathen.

My garden is full of heather and gorse, for it is heathen.

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Postby heuristically_alone » Sun May 06, 2018 12:07 am UTC

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Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.
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Postby CorruptUser » Sun May 06, 2018 2:20 am UTC

An ice spear would've broken when hitting a person after tens of thousands of feet drop.

Dumped water wouldn't form into a spear, but droplets first before freezing, and at largest hailstones. Small ones.

Most importantly, airplane dont dump their waste.

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Postby commodorejohn » Sun May 06, 2018 6:45 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:Most importantly, airplane dont dump their waste.

The first two I figured on, but this last kind of surprises me to hear, given that when you flush an airplane toilet it feels like you get about 50% of the way to reliving the explosive-decompression scene from Total Recall. Do they just take advantage of the pressure difference to effect a flush to a tank stored in an unpressurized part of the plane, or something?
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Postby orthogon » Sun May 06, 2018 8:39 am UTC

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CorruptUser wrote:Most importantly, airplane dont dump their waste.

The first two I figured on, but this last kind of surprises me to hear, given that when you flush an airplane toilet it feels like you get about 50% of the way to reliving the explosive-decompression scene from Total Recall. Do they just take advantage of the pressure difference to effect a flush to a tank stored in an unpressurized part of the plane, or something?

I think that's coincidence. They have those kind of toilets in trains now, and they make the same sound. Also they probably need to work even at 10,000ft or lower, so couldn't rely on the altitude. And you possibly need more vacuum than you'd get even at cruising altitude, though that's just a hunch. (I used to pump out toilets on narrow boats as a Saturday job, but our vacuum tank never worked well enough. I'll tell that story another time).

There are incidents of "poopsicles", but it's a malfunction or incorrectly fitted cap that causes, er, fluid to leak out and fall to earth.
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Postby Soupspoon » Sun May 06, 2018 10:43 am UTC

In my mind it's an engineering issue. Unlike a traditional flushing toilet, on the ground, you don't want to be carrying many litres of water in a header tank to push everything down round the bend, because that's weight you need to carry aloft for no other good reason (if it doesn't all get used, it's a waste, if it does all get used then what are you doing with the rest of the waste?).

So use a pressure-tank in reverse to pull the deposit through. You can 'recharge' the vacuum, either directly from the outside but more likely just pumped out through a valve more like an airlock flusher (without the need/desire to bring the air and its newly-collected volatiles back into the cabin), but the toilet bowl is never connected directly to the outside, and the moved movements and liquids are settled into a collection tank below the vacuum 'container' that shouldn't have anything other than gases (maybe a bit of spatter) pass into it.

(Space-loos cannot be so wasteful of atmosphere, nor rely upon gravity to seperate the air from the rest. Centripetal separators and substantial air-treatment filters are probably just the half of it.)

Though trains have, and do, still work with a practically Thomas Crapper-based approach to provisioning passenger's 'pleasures', there'd be many advantages to taking an plane-spec system and installing it in a train (an inter-city service, with many passengers needing to go a long way, with a long way to 'go' ) to reduce the need to refill quite so large water tanks and no longer dump the waste out onto tracks (which I'm not sure happens much/at all now, on our fairly civilised system) or using flush-water expanded holding tanks rather than ones large enough to deal with air-flushed deposits.


But this is just a thought experiment. I've no links to the industries of rail, air or mobile waste management from space-loo to porta-loo.


Humorous news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44005284

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Sableagle » Sun May 06, 2018 11:08 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:An ice spear would've broken when hitting a person after tens of thousands of feet drop.

Dumped water wouldn't form into a spear, but droplets first before freezing, and at largest hailstones. Small ones.

Most importantly, airplane dont dump their waste.


https://youtu.be/vyD3O9y4ApA?t=135

Also even if it formed an icicle it wouldn't form such a neat one, the angle's wrong and that doesn't look cold enough for urine to stay frozen solid long enough for the picture.

Also who the heck would have photographed it before the police arrived?
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Postby commodorejohn » Sun May 06, 2018 3:11 pm UTC

Huh. The more you know!
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Postby jewish_scientist » Mon May 07, 2018 12:34 pm UTC

heuristically_alone wrote:Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.

Mythbusters disproved this.

Which country is missing?

North Korea
South Korea
Taiwan

I am guessing the BBC is not on friendly terms with China.

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Postby Yablo » Mon May 07, 2018 5:29 pm UTC

Soupspoon wrote:Humorous news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44005284

(I got 9/10, rather proudly, only failing with the baltic states question where I dithered the wrong way between the right answer and the one I chose.)


I got the same result for the same reason.
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Postby Sableagle » Mon May 07, 2018 5:47 pm UTC

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heuristically_alone wrote:Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.

Mythbusters disproved this.
Mythbusters is to science what CSI:Miami is to forensic entomology.

10/10 on the goegraphy. I was able to correctly identify the other two in the Baltic question, then clicked the right answer, saw the red outline and went: "Oh, THAT's where the empty space was? I didn't notice that." :roll: I got gorilla-danced, didn't I?
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Postby pogrmman » Mon May 07, 2018 7:40 pm UTC

I got 10/10 on the geography, but admittedly, I’ve spent enough time looking at maps that I could probably correctly place most countries on a world map (with the possible exceptions of East Africa and Central Asia).


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It’s hilarious that there is “no apparent reason” for the announcement. Admittedly, lots of foods that were adopted by one culture have been changed pretty significantly into something else. While I don’t know what Turkish meatballs are like, I’m sure the sweedes have done something special and unique to them.

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Postby Grop » Mon May 07, 2018 7:56 pm UTC

Soupspoon wrote:Humorous news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44005284

(I got 9/10, rather proudly, only failing with the baltic states question where I dithered the wrong way between the right answer and the one I chose.)


The one about Bielorussia? I wouldn't call that a baltic state.

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Postby Soupspoon » Mon May 07, 2018 8:33 pm UTC

Grop wrote:
Soupspoon wrote:Humorous news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44005284

(I got 9/10, rather proudly, only failing with the baltic states question where I dithered the wrong way between the right answer and the one I chose.)


The one about Bielorussia? I wouldn't call that a baltic state.

That's how bad I was with that question!

(Real answer: I couldn't think of a better collective term, at that point I was writing. "Eastern European" seemed much too broad, "Warsaw Pact countries" seemed too old, and broad, and quite possibly still a little bit wrong.)


Would you believe I took ages trying to work out which country was missing from the mediteranean, too? I could have kicked myself. With just the one boot!

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Postby Grop » Mon May 07, 2018 9:20 pm UTC

To be fair, the mediteranean without Italy doesn't look that bad, when compared to Europe without Germany, North America without Canada, or South Korea without North Korea.

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Postby Liri » Mon May 07, 2018 9:22 pm UTC

I laughed when I noticed Italy. I was looking for Crete being missing before I realized.
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Postby Soupspoon » Mon May 07, 2018 9:39 pm UTC

Grop wrote:or South Korea without North Korea.
I think that one was just taken from a US Military contingency document, projecting various future scenarios and end-games. ;)

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Postby Coyne » Tue May 08, 2018 2:56 am UTC

Yablo wrote:
Soupspoon wrote:Humorous news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44005284

(I got 9/10, rather proudly, only failing with the baltic states question where I dithered the wrong way between the right answer and the one I chose.)


I got the same result for the same reason.


Proved I was a typical American I guess. 8 of 10. I probably blew the same one you guys did, but I added another failure by blowing the Middle East question.
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“Those famous Swedish meatballs you get in Ikea are actually Turkish, admits Swedish government,”

I was wondering who had the power to make such a statement. I suppose the government as a whole.
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I got 7 out of 10.

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Sableagle wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:
heuristically_alone wrote:Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.

Mythbusters disproved this.
Mythbusters is to science what CSI:Miami is to forensic entomology.
Perhaps, but you don't need to do a whole lot of science to determine that urine isn't going to stay together long enough to fall to earth. Anyone who's peed outside on a windy day could have told you that from experience.

10/10 on the goegraphy. I was able to correctly identify the other two in the Baltic question, then clicked the right answer, saw the red outline and went: "Oh, THAT's where the empty space was? I didn't notice that." :roll: I got gorilla-danced, didn't I?
Yeah, greyscale maps on a white background made it hard to figure out where the space was in a few of them, but identifying the other ones worked. (I was trying to remember whether I had the right small smudge as Jamaica and then I noticed the much more distinctive lack of Cuba.)
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Postby Dauric » Tue May 08, 2018 9:54 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
Sableagle wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:
heuristically_alone wrote:Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.

Mythbusters disproved this.
Mythbusters is to science what CSI:Miami is to forensic entomology.
Perhaps, but you don't need to do a whole lot of science to determine that urine isn't going to stay together long enough to fall to earth. Anyone who's peed outside on a windy day could have told you that from experience.


Not to mention that the myth where the Mythbusters explored the concept of the "blue ice bomb" they did a practical experiment of a leaking tank in a wind tunnel at jet airliner speeds and temperatures, and the chunk of ice they got had no resemblance whatsoever to the "Spear of Piss" from the satire sketch.

Mythbusters might not be the most thorough with their experimentation or the most accurate with their science, but over their history they've done quite a lot of practical experimentation that is still useful to examine.
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gmalivuk wrote:Perhaps, but you don't need to do a whole lot of science to determine that urine isn't going to stay together long enough to fall to earth. Anyone who's peed outside on a windy day could have told you that from experience.
My knowledge of airflow dynamics is insufficient to fully explain why it is that, no matter how I stand, at least one of my legs is downwind of where I piss.

Best technique: stand diagonally upwind of a tree, fencepost or lamppost, face it, reach out, lean against it, move your feet back and then pee downwards and away from your feet.

That or go inside and use an actual toilet.

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Postby Yablo » Tue May 08, 2018 10:07 pm UTC

pogrmman wrote:While I don’t know what Turkish meatballs are like, I’m sure the sweedes have done something special and unique to them.

I'd say selling them in a furniture store counts as innovation.

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Postby CorruptUser » Tue May 08, 2018 10:22 pm UTC

I think it was done to remind everyone that less than 100% of Swedish culture is produce by "pureblood" Swedes. Because tensions are running pretty high in Sweden right now due to immigration.

Stupid question. Is this a propaganda campaign? It is information that is 1) intended to alter public opinion, but it's also 2) (ostensibly) true and 3) done with good intentions. I mean, technically speaking, is everything that is meant to alter public opinion "propaganda"?

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Postby jewish_scientist » Wed May 09, 2018 12:38 pm UTC

Sableagle wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:
heuristically_alone wrote:Went to fact check this and couldn't find evidence of it actually being true. Still great though.

Mythbusters disproved this.
Mythbusters is to science what CSI:Miami is to forensic entomology.

It is your ad hominem verses 2 experiments done in a NASA facility and 1 done by skydiving. I know who I am putting my money on.

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Postby Sableagle » Wed May 09, 2018 6:36 pm UTC

The cameraman is 6 years old and can't go 10 minutes without doing an inward-facing 360° circle around the subject, the presenters are special effects guys whose job is and always has been to polish turds, the scientific method gets no respect at all, they prefer shooting stuff out of air cannons to making precision machinery and taking accurate measurements, the overall effect is not to get kids interested in science and encourage them to question and test assertions but instead to encourage kids to accept anything that's presented with a big enough special effects budget as being hard science AND THEY LIE TO THEIR AUDIENCE.

If you want an example you can see for yourself without too much thinking and prodding, check out the milk carton silencer in a gas-filled room.

"There is no gap between the muzzle and the carton," they say, while the gap between them is visible on-screen.

"No flash can be seen," they say, while the flash is visible on-screen.

THEY LIE.

I don't have "scientist" in my username, so I could be wrong, but last I heard, accurate reporting of experiments and their results was kind of important to science.

They jumped out of a plane? Whooooooo-bloody-hoo.
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Postby CorruptUser » Wed May 09, 2018 6:57 pm UTC

Mythbusters isnt better or even equal to a university research project, but its better than your buddy Greg. In the absence of a methodical scientific study, mythbusters is good enough.

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Postby ConMan » Wed May 09, 2018 11:12 pm UTC

You know, I read a comic defending Mythbusters once, but it was from xkcd, so I doubt anyone here has heard of it.
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Postby pkcommando » Thu May 10, 2018 6:57 pm UTC

Is that the comic with the red button bonus comic at the bottom?
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Postby CorruptUser » Thu May 10, 2018 7:47 pm UTC

I think you are confusing it with the comic about the discount space security contractors names after the ultra-violent blob that looks like poop. Or maybe the comic about the wizard-scientists that is obviously propaganda written after the fact by the evil dictator with the mind control bugs and the german beast-men and talking cat to try and explain how she is just an innocent yet intelligent girl that by accident ended up in control of Europe. Or maybe the comic about the space-future bureacrat that runs a rehabilitation agency for overly-macho videogame and movie characters. Or maybe the comic about the horrors of life in sexy medieval fantasy settings. Or maybe that comic about the fire-demon girl coming of age in a British school for talented children and her best friend the bisexual robo-messiah. Or the comic about how Scandinavian countries interact with the rest of the world. Or the comic about the kids being devoured by bears. Or the comic about the autistic cyborg girl. Or the comic about the fat guy from Ohio who is stuck in a coma for a decade and is hallucinating about living in a tabletop wargame. Or the comic that used to host it, the stick figure comic about the D&D characters with the worst builds who have to fight a squiggle.



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