Belial wrote:So let's stop pretending like we can somehow exclude rape victims from this conversation: if you favor forced-birth, you favor forced-birth for rape victims.
Which, if the reason for forced-birth is protecting the rights of Schrodinger's baby, makes sense anyway. The reason Schrodinger's baby is there does not affect the rights of Schrodinger's baby or the woman carrying it.
and everyone that supports that possibility should be forced to pay in to support said baby, pay for it's medical care pre and postpartum, and take turns housing the gremlin till it's 18. otherwise, fuck them for bringing another unwanted, uncared for child into the world
Drumheller769 wrote: DSenette wrote:
Drumheller769 wrote:You do agree to dying, you have to sign a form that says you agree to accept any and all consequences for partaking in sky diving. Also, I chose that analogy because it was an either or choice, you either sign and fly, or you don't, superman will not save you. And by consent to dying, I mean accepting the consequences, would it be better to say acknowledge the fact you may die?
Wow like 10 posts in a minute: I'm arguing by analogy because everyone thinks Im being a jerk while, except for Lazar, ignoring the other half of my argument, now to read his post....
no, your argument was "a woman who becomes pregnant after having consensual sex should not be able to get an abortion".
then you go on to make analogies about how when you participate in an activity, you should know what all the possible outcomes of those activities are, and prepare accordingly to prevent the outcomes you do not want.
what you're ignoring is that abortion is one of those preparations for preventing an unwanted outcome.
Again, not my whole argument, please get it all.
@LaserGuy: The fetus is not a participant, it is a result of a consensual act between 2 people, its a possible outcome.
@Dsenette: the other half you are ignoring is I do not think a woman's right to bodily autonomy trumps the fetus's right to life in any situation except rape, or where the mother's life is in danger.
what jessica said, and, again, you're saying the same thing in different words.
if a woman becomes pregnant through any means other than rape, and her pregnancy isn't causing her life to be in direct danger, then she should be forced to carry her baby to full term. no matter what the other possibilities are.
condom was sabotaged by a fuckface partner
you thought you loved the guy, and he loved you, so you were all like, fuck yeah i wanna have a baby with this guy and live together forever, but then a week or two after you did the do without a condom he split, and you don't have the ability to take care of this child if it comes to full terms, let alone pay for prenatal care, or the birth itself, and you don't have any family to take care of you, and shit, if only there was another option other than having this baby