PeterCai wrote: KnightExemplar wrote:
I dunno. Why are current and past judgements of the SCOTUS and the US government in any way related to the issues at hand? So far, its between the UK, Sweeden, and Ecuador.
Because the issue is whether or not Assange will receive a fair trial?
For what? In the US, he is most certainly connected with one of the largest leaks in history. One in which we can provably demonstrate that people's lives were put at risk by the information he helped leak. At very least, the War Logs detail how Soldiers respond and report to incidents. Outside of legitimate war targets, there were also the names and locations of Afghan civilians who helped the US in those logs. We all know he's Bradley Manning's foreign national contact, himself on trial for endangering lives with these leaks. So from the US's perspective, it is fair that he's treated like a foreign spy that he is. Assange may have done this through ignorance and incompetence... but the effect is the same.
Treated fairly in Sweeden? The rape case is still up in the air, and it is clear that Assange running away from this issue is certainly not justice. Publicly, Assange's views have not helped him look like a Misogynistic bastard
. Worse, Assange certainly didn't like it when details of the Rape charge
were leaked out, making the whole leak thing rather one-sided (its fine when Assange leaks stuff. But its not good when stuff is leaked about Assange??)
Treated fairly in the UK? He has now violated the terms of his bail.
By every country's individual justice system, Assange has reason to at very least get arrested and sent to trial.
KnightExemplar wrote: PeterCai wrote:
KnightExemplar wrote:As noted by morriswalters, everybody is in it for themselves, and anyone expecting otherwise is deluding themselves.
"The world is evil! I am sooo mature for seeing it! Everybody that wants to make the world better is stuuupid!!! Look at how edgy and cool I am!!!"
Glad to know you are taking this seriously.
More realistically, I expect more from Assange than the behavior he has put forth so far. If he were more like Thomas Drake
, who respected the information he was leaking... and only discussed details that were relevant to waste, fraud, and potential constitutional issues... I'd be supportive of him. If he were more like Jesselyn Radack who saw specific injustice and brought it out to our attention, then Assange would be a hero.
You can't just accept what every whistleblower says. Just like everything else in the world, there are good ones, and there are bad ones. Assange is one of the bad ones.
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