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Re: Doctor Who

Postby charliepanayi » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:01 pm UTC

So, it's this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Smith_(British_actor)

Good lord, he's pretty much the same age as me. This makes me feel pretty old :D
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Mother Superior » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:08 pm UTC

Who is that?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby aleflamedyud » Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:29 pm UTC

That guy looks like David Tennant 2: The Second David Tennant.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Various Varieties » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:06 pm UTC

You know that link I posted earlier?

Lawrence Miles wrote:Chiwetel Ejiofor (8-1). Middle England might just about accept a black Doctor, but they certainly won't accept one they can't pronounce. Hartnell! Troughton! Pertwee! Baker! Davison! Baker! McCoy! McGann! Eccleston! Tennant! Eji… Ejoili… Ej… oh, **** it, let's just hire Matt Smith instead.

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The clips they showed were promising (I hadn't seen any of those programmes), but he came across as very nervous and a bit inarticulate in the interview - but that's to be expected, compared to "old hand" David Tennant. I wonder if he'll use his wiggly-fingers gesture in the role? :P

The idea of a large section of fandom panicking because the Doctor will suddenly be younger than they are reminds me of Frank Miller's introduction to one of the editions of The Dark Knight Returns, where he says that he wrote it when he had the sudden realisation that he was older than Bruce Wayne...

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:36 pm UTC

Hah, now every time he introduces himself as "John Smith", he'll be half right, in a meta sort of way.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Alder » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:18 pm UTC

An article that might be interesting:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7807996.stm
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby charliepanayi » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:16 pm UTC

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It's 'new Doctor Who reactions' bingo!
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Metacelsus » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:41 am UTC

I'm sure there are plenty of whinging fanboys on the internet tonight and I hate to join them but... well damnit I thought we were going to swing back to an older one. Now I'm a sad panda. He seems reasonably mature in interview though, a running theme in the older show was the childish old man maybe they're going to go with an overly serious young man?

Damn but Lawrence Miles is snarky though. I might need to go find a copy of the Infinity Doctors again now.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby ameretrifle » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:34 am UTC

It's sad they aren't showing any imagination with regards to gender or race (or age), but if he plays the Doctor like something other than an extremely effective ad for Ritalin, I will have nothing against him.

Their lack of imagination doesn't surprise me, though. I just watched Silence in the Library (late, I know, but I only recently regained the emotional distance to watch this show without wanting to beat David Tennant senseless with a brick and there are still moments), and for the most part, it looked wonderfully imaginative. Until-- "There's a reason every species is afraid of the dark" (paraphrase)? Seriously? No nocturnal species in the entire universe? Or are they all weird-looking enough they don't count? Whatever...

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Joeldi » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:06 am UTC

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Nah, I don't really have any qualms with this guy, other than they could have been more creative. I haven't seem him act, but he looks very very 'safe', and his name isn't helping him any.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Not Bernard » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:38 am UTC

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Apologies to him, I'll try to keep an open mind, but he looks more suited to playing Frankenstein's monster than anything else.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby mat-tina » Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:17 pm UTC

Hi, people. I haven't read though this thread, in fear of spoilers, so this question might have come up. Anyways, I want to start watching Dr. Who, and have no idea where to start. I read that a lot of episodes from the old series are missing. Are they still worth watching? Would it be possible to start off with a younger Doctor, or would that be too confusing?
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:17 pm UTC

mat-tina wrote:Hi, people. I haven't read though this thread, in fear of spoilers, so this question might have come up. Anyways, I want to start watching Dr. Who, and have no idea where to start. I read that a lot of episodes from the old series are missing. Are they still worth watching? Would it be possible to start off with a younger Doctor, or would that be too confusing?


Doctor Who ran from the 60's to the 80's and made 26 seasons of television before being cancelled.

It was then revived a few years ago and has done four seasons.

This thread is mainly about New Who, because more of us have watched it (although I intend to do some Old Who when I get the chance). You'll be fine if you start there, it all makes sense.

Starting with Old Who is going to require a loooooot of time before you catch up to broadcast. Like....a year or two...depending on how fast you watch.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Nath » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:57 pm UTC

Yeah, I started with season 1 of the new Doctor Who. They've reset the season numbers for a reason; the show is designed to be accessible to new viewers.

Incidentally, seasons 2 and 3 recently joined season 1 on Netflix Instant.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby mat-tina » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:15 pm UTC

Okay, thank you :D
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Nebuduck » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:25 pm UTC

But it's definitely worth watching some of the old ones - particularly some of the Tom Baker ones, since he's the incarnation which has always been associated most strongly with the whole idea of 'The Doctor', I think - but don't worry too much about watching the old ones in any real order. The old ones are also completely different and pretty unrelated to the new ones.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:16 am UTC

You know, someone should go through and compile a list of must-watch serials--the very best of Old Who, something that is a lot more manageable. Like, I've seen the first 5/7ths of the one where the Daleks are introduced, and that's probably notable. Likewise would be the ones with regenerations in them, or important continuity bits.

For example, if I were to do this for New Who, you would watch "Dalek" and "The Long Game" from season 1, but not, say, "The Unquiet Dead". Continuity-focused, see, so you miss a lot of Who but still get a good feel for the universe. Of course, this would cut out some excellent episodes--Blink, for example, might not make it, nor would Midnight--but still.

(This is the point where someone pops in and says "Yes, Elderberry, such a thing does exist, here's the list...")
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby bigglesworth » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:31 am UTC

mat-tina wrote:Would it be possible to start off with a younger Doctor


It would most likely be an older Doctor, but aside from that...
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Postby Joeldi » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:49 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:I've seen the first 5/7ths of the one where the Daleks are introduced, and that's probably notable.


Y'know, someone was uploading every episode from the very beginning to youtube. I'd watched through the first serial, and was looking forward heaps to the second one (The Daleks) when youtube staff realised and the uploader got banned, and all his vids removed. Saddest day of my life...
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Metacelsus » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:49 am UTC

If we're recommending old Who I've always liked Terror of the Autons. John Pertwee (third Doctor) is awesome on his own (See this voice over he did for the main theme) but it's also the first ep with the Master. They also didn't really get a lot of the mythology figured out until 2nd/3rd Doctor (I don't think they even used the word 'timelord' until late 2nd Doctor) in as much as they ever did get it figured out.

My favourites have always been 1st and 7th Doctor but I hesitate to recommend them because the show was still finding it's feet with the 1st Doctor so a lot of stuff will more or less contradict the later show and the later 7th Doctor episodes tended to go to pretty abstract places with lots of 80s hair.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby ameretrifle » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:25 am UTC

Well, personally, I'd kind of suggest watching at least a couple of the Tennant episodes before starting at the beginning. The first year really does have a different feel-- it's more cohesive, there's more of an overarching meaning to it, there's more character development and emotion. If you get used to that, the next seasons might be a disappointment. But if you go in expecting it to be what it is now-- a good little episodic sci-fi show-- you stand a much better chance of not getting disappointed. But, that's just me. If you glance back a bit through the thread, it'll become pretty obvious why you should take my opinion on this matter with a grain of salt. :D

Incidentally, this site has scripts of all those missing episodes you've heard about. The masters were destroyed, but people still had audio recordings. It you don't mind reading scripts, it's worth a look-- but again, there's way too much old Who to properly catch up on, and it's not really necessary anyway.

I haven't watched that much old Who myself-- limited resources-- but I saw the first couple episodes of Tom Baker, "The Ark in Space" and "Genesis of the Daleks" (and possibly the one after that; I don't quite recall), and I believe they were quite good. If you don't mind the occasional giant styrofoam clam. :D Also, I saw a bit of that "Key to Time" arc as well, though just the first episode; it might be worth starting there, though I'd leave a proper reccommendation to someone who actually knows.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby phlip » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:32 am UTC

ameretrifle wrote:If you don't mind the occasional giant styrofoam clam. :D

Or guy wrestling his own arm, wrapped in green bubblewrap... the Tom Baker era was so much fun :D

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Yuri2356 » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:57 pm UTC

Metacelsus wrote:They also didn't really get a lot of the mythology figured out until 2nd/3rd Doctor (I don't think they even used the word 'timelord' until late 2nd Doctor) in as much as they ever did get it figured out.

I know we didn't meat any other timelords until the last 2nd Doctor serial, "The War Games" where the doctor is put on trial for some of his hijinks, executed (regenerating into the 3rd Doctor), and then exiled to earth for a few seasons.

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:28 pm UTC

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The masters were destroyed, but people still had audio recordings.


Why didn't they regenerate?
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Re: Doctor Who

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Metacelsus wrote:They also didn't really get a lot of the mythology figured out until 2nd/3rd Doctor (I don't think they even used the word 'timelord' until late 2nd Doctor) in as much as they ever did get it figured out.

Yuri2356 wrote:I know we didn't meat any other timelords until the last 2nd Doctor serial, "The War Games" where the doctor is put on trial for some of his hijinks, executed (regenerating into the 3rd Doctor), and then exiled to earth for a few seasons.


Although the Doctor's wasn't identified as a TImelord until the end of the second Doctor's run, the first Doctor did encounter the Meddling Monk, who was supposed to be also a member of the Doctor's race.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby ameretrifle » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:47 am UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:
ameretrifle wrote:
The masters were destroyed, but people still had audio recordings.


Why didn't they regenerate?
I'm sure they did. They're just still hiding in the vast wilderness that is space and time until their diabolical schemes come to fruition.

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Postby Metacelsus » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:45 pm UTC

Sir_Elderberry wrote:Why didn't they regenerate?


They did but as usual it rendered them completely unrecognisable. Didn't you ever wonder why the time machine Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure was a phone booth?

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby steewi » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:48 am UTC

Metacelsus wrote:
Sir_Elderberry wrote:Why didn't they regenerate?


They did but as usual it rendered them completely unrecognisable. Didn't you ever wonder why the time machine Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure was a phone booth?


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Re: Doctor Who

Postby bigglesworth » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:05 am UTC

Oops? As in they weren't supposed to have it?
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Postby steewi » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:06 am UTC

bigglesworth wrote:Oops? As in they weren't supposed to have it?


Yeah, they were supposed to destroy it after the screening, because they only had the rights to one showing. But for some reason at one of the relays (as I heard it) they were filed away and forgotten about. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes#Recovery

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Maseiken » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:32 pm UTC

steewi wrote:
bigglesworth wrote:Oops? As in they weren't supposed to have it?


Yeah, they were supposed to destroy it after the screening, because they only had the rights to one showing. But for some reason at one of the relays (as I heard it) they were filed away and forgotten about. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes#Recovery

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby sugarhyped » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:43 am UTC

New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby steewi » Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:34 am UTC

sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.


IMDb says
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it starts in London but quickly ends up on a desert planet. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337072/

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Postby SlyReaper » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:30 am UTC

steewi wrote:
sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.


IMDb says
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it starts in London but quickly ends up on a desert planet. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337072/


Will there be sandworms and blue eyed locals? :D
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sir_Elderberry » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:29 pm UTC

I want a Bene Gesserit companion.
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby aleflamedyud » Tue Apr 07, 2009 3:41 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:
steewi wrote:
sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.


IMDb says
Spoiler:
it starts in London but quickly ends up on a desert planet. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1337072/


Will there be sandworms and blue eyed locals? :D

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sp00n » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:25 am UTC

sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.

I had no idea it was this soon!

...knowing ABC, I'll probably not get until next year...

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby sugarhyped » Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:52 pm UTC

Sp00n wrote:
sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.

I had no idea it was this soon!

...knowing ABC, I'll probably not get until next year...

:(

watch it online. sometimes the aired in US ones have stuff missing anyways. (I havent watched one on TV in a while but I imagine because of commercial breaks we'd miss some stuff)
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Re: Doctor Who

Postby Sp00n » Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:12 pm UTC

sugarhyped wrote:
Sp00n wrote:
sugarhyped wrote:New episode next week. yay... Apparently they filmed in Dubai so we get an out of london/cardiff episode.

I had no idea it was this soon!

...knowing ABC, I'll probably not get until next year...

:(

watch it online. sometimes the aired in US ones have stuff missing anyways. (I havent watched one on TV in a while but I imagine because of commercial breaks we'd miss some stuff)

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Re: Doctor Who

Postby sugarhyped » Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:41 pm UTC

^pff. none of my family would watch with me. now i'm lonely.
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