Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

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I have never taken drugs and I never intend to.
192
44%
I have never taken drugs but I would take them if given a chance to.
63
15%
I have taken drugs and I still do occasionally/regularly.
111
26%
I have taken drugs but have stopped using them completely.
46
11%
I have taken drugs, however I can no longer take drugs for a particular reason but I wish I could take them still.
16
4%
I am addicted to some form(s) of drugs currently.
6
1%
 
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Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Box Boy » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:00 pm UTC

This is mainly a survey just to see the number of people on this forum who have taken drugs.
I personally have never taken them and never intend to, however I believe I know two people who might have at one point used pot and I know for a fact that a relative of mine has used it while in college.

EDIT: for the purpose of this poll all illegal substances which are inhaled, injected or injested for recreational purposes are considered drugs. This excludes cigarets and alcohol.

Please remember this is just for general discussion of your personal experience with drugs, it is not a debate about whether drugs should be legalised or are morally aceptable.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:05 pm UTC

And already I see a problem with your poll options - mostly in that there's a difference between a person who used to do drugs and no longer does so due to .. lack of interest, lack of money, lack of source, lack of time, and so on... they're not against the idea of doing them again, they just likely will not... and someone who refuses to ever do drugs again.

And then there's the people who were addicted and cannot use again, ever, as it will drop them back in the addiction cycle and down they go.


But yeah, can't please everyone. I suppose that's why a multichoice option is better, with options like "I've used" "I have not used" "I may use again" "I will use again" "I'll never use again" and so on. Allows you to cover more bases.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Certhas » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:06 pm UTC

Bit imprecise. Where do you draw the line? Tea? Coffee? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Marijuana? Speed? E? Cocaine?

Edit: Or I guess the line is illegal drugs?

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Box Boy » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:07 pm UTC

I'd edit it to have more option but from what I remember it gets rid of all the votes that there are currently.
EDIT: ninjad, the line is illegal drugs. And how does tea count as a drug?
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby sje46 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:12 pm UTC

Let's quickly redo the poll then! Before too many people vote.

I have never taken drugs, and likely never will.
Certhas wrote:Bit imprecise. Where do you draw the line? Tea? Coffee? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Marijuana? Speed? E? Cocaine?
I think illicit drugs would probably be a good place. Tea, coffee, alcohol, and cigarettes don't count. Legal drugs used illegally should count as drugs. I think salvia should count too. . ..Pretty much anything that is taboo and is used to get some kind of psychotrophic effects. Alcohol and coffee are not really taboo.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:12 pm UTC

There's currently 7 votes. They'll re-vote.

Also, you may want to define what is and is not a Drug for the purposes of this poll - I'd basically qualify it as a substance ingested, injected or inhaled for recreational purposes, excluding alcohol and tobacco. Which basically means that it would include things like paint thinner and gasoline.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Pez Dispens3r » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:24 pm UTC

Yeah I just voted but I'll happily redo it because I wasn't happy with the option I chose. (i.e. I haven't used drugs in a while but not because I've quit. It's a little bit like how I haven't given up on sex--it's just been a while since I've had someone I wanted to do it with.)
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby H.E.L.e.N. » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:26 pm UTC

@ST: Right. Because "illegal" drugs is not especially useful, given that our fora-population isn't all from the same place, and could easily have different definitions of what's legal.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Adacore » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:27 pm UTC

I'm in between options 1 and 2. I've never done drugs, and don't intend to, but I can see that I conceivably might do in the future (nothing hard/very addictive though), at least in experimentation. Most of the people I know have at least experimented with them a little. I've been to house parties at Uni where joints were passed round and most people partook (they were perfectly fine with a polite 'no thanks', I never felt any pressure).

I have more objections to smoking tobacco than I do to smoking weed (by a small margin), but I'll probably never do either.

But yeah - HELeN is right, I'm counting cannabis as a drug for the purposes of this thread, but I frequently travel to the Netherlands to run LAN events, and it's not illegal there. EDIT: Technically, it is illegal, but not enforced.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby pseudoidiot » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:28 pm UTC

I smoked pot with some friends once. Didn't really see the big deal (didn't feel any different), so I never bothered trying again.

Now, being around any sort of smoke bothers me, and I don't really like the smell of pot.

I've got no problem with people that do drugs, as long as they're responsible about it, and it's not effecting anyone else. It's not really any of my business.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby crowey » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:29 pm UTC

I smoke pot every now and then, and in the past have done coke and abused prescription painkillers.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby thicknavyrain » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:29 pm UTC

Keeping on discussion, never have done, probably never will. I haven't even gotten drunk, partially because the only drinks I like are milk, apple juice, hot chocolate and water (I promise, I'm not 6). I honestly don't see the point, apparently it's quite an experience but I just feel that even if once isn't harmful, buying and selling of illegal drugs promotes LOADS of other, more serious types of crimes. Interesting fact I picked up from my Religious Studies teacher (if someone knows more about this maybye they can message me) 80% of persistant offendors are hard drug users. The entire thing just seems so tangled and complicated morally and physically I'd rather just avoid it. Besides, who needs drugs when you can just light some incense, spin around on your chair real fast and go onto youtube and try one of those freaky optical illusions? (Lot's of people apparently...)

However, I do know loads of people who have done drugs, (or have been passively high). I frown upon it, but some people can't help give in to peer pressure/curiosity I guess...

WARNING: I know you said it wasn't a place for the morality and legality of drugs debate, I just thought it would be better for the conversation to give a PERSONAL reason for why I haven't and probably never will.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby sje46 » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:32 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:Also, you may want to define what is and is not a Drug for the purposes of this poll - I'd basically qualify it as a substance ingested, injected or inhaled for recreational purposes, excluding alcohol and tobacco. Which basically means that it would include things like paint thinner and gasoline.

Yeah, thatt's a lot better than my definition. Although I do eat pizza for recreational purposes.
I think it's important to include effects it has on your mind, your awareness, or something. All food probably has some effect .. .but tea? Really? I have never felt a thing from tea. I barely even notice coffee.
I think alcohol should count as a drug, but it is much too widespread and accepted, so no one really considers it a drug.

Also: I have never drank alcohol. And it really annoys me when people say I do. When they hear I go to college, they assume I drink alcohol. "No, I don't." "I refuse to believe that."
I'm planning on never drinking alcohol, ever, just to spite them.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:36 pm UTC

thicknavyrain wrote:Interesting fact I picked up from my Religious Studies teacher (if someone knows more about this maybye they can message me) 80% of persistant offendors are hard drug users.
Well.. having no idea how correct that number is, I do know that most repeat offenders of generic criminal acts (which is what I assume you mean by persistent offenders) are from ... not exactly the nicest backgrounds and upbringing, and usually lack higher education, limiting their job selection and chance to improve their lot in life, so it seems reasonable that they would attempt an escape - any escape - to just feel good for a few brief moments.

Then there's also the fact that most hard drugs are horribly addictive, many of them almost as addictive as nicotine (ha ha! But seriously, that shit's addictive. Nicotine, that is. Very addictive.). In order to break the addiction, cold turkey is not always an option and rehab is expensive, so if you don't exactly have that great of an income, you're pretty much stuck with it.


And you're right, the illegal drug trade funds all sorts of criminal acts, just like the illegal alcohol trade did in the 1930s. All the more reason to legalize and regulate it.

As for the comparison... Yes, you could do that instead of taking drugs. You could also eat tofu instead of a nice steak. They're practically the same thing, right? Why drink sodas, teas, coffees, or juices when there's water?
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Box Boy » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:38 pm UTC

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Box Boy wrote:I believe I know two people who might have at one point used pot
That. . .is really cute. Haha.

I'm fifteen so most people I know haven't had a chance to try drugs yet (I assume) and a lot of my friends are very anti-drugs.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Adacore » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:41 pm UTC

thicknavyrain wrote:However, I do know loads of people who have done drugs, (or have been passively high). I frown upon it, but some people can't help give in to peer pressure/curiosity I guess...

That's an assumption that, while true in many cases, is not true for everyone. In that some (lots?) of the people I know who have used drugs did not do it because they 'gave in' to anything, but because they made an informed decision. It's probably not a decision I would make, but it's their choice.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

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sje46 wrote:All food probably has some effect .. .but tea? Really? I have never felt a thing from tea.

You're doing it wrong.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Adacore » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:44 pm UTC

Box Boy wrote:
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Box Boy wrote:I believe I know two people who might have at one point used pot
That. . .is really cute. Haha.

I'm fifteen so most people I know haven't had a chance to try drugs yet (I assume) and a lot of my friends are very anti-drugs.
Also is the poll alright now?

Two of my friends were expelled from school at about that age for being caught smoking pot at the local railway station. My school was tough on drugs. I think at that age I probably knew at least 10 people who had tried it, although if you include all the adults I knew who had 'experimented' in their youth, it was probably more like 40.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Zohar » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:47 pm UTC

Never used any illegal drugs (well, I got drunk once when I was underage, but I didn't drink since then). Nor do I smoke cigarettes. I know plenty of people who do.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby blue_eyedspacemonkey » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:49 pm UTC

I've never used illegal drugs. I've never seen the appeal, I guess? I know plenty of people who have done/do. Doesn't really bother me.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby doogly » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:56 pm UTC

SecondTalon wrote:
thicknavyrain wrote:Interesting fact I picked up from my Religious Studies teacher (if someone knows more about this maybye they can message me) 80% of persistant offendors are hard drug users.
Well.. having no idea how correct that number is, I do know that most repeat offenders of generic criminal acts (which is what I assume you mean by persistent offenders) are from ... not exactly the nicest backgrounds and upbringing, and usually lack higher education, limiting their job selection and chance to improve their lot in life, so it seems reasonable that they would attempt an escape - any escape - to just feel good for a few brief moments.

Then there's also the fact that most hard drugs are horribly addictive, many of them almost as addictive as nicotine (ha ha! But seriously, that shit's addictive. Nicotine, that is. Very addictive.). In order to break the addiction, cold turkey is not always an option and rehab is expensive, so if you don't exactly have that great of an income, you're pretty much stuck with it.


Also, we've decided to count drug use as an offense, and that white collar crime doesn't actually bother us. So, these two attitudes skew that number to the point of uselessness (if it is correct at all).

Oh, and for me! Only liquor and coffee, but probably enough that certain organs are mad at me. I have too much asthma to smoke anything. If someone wants to make me a brownie though, I wouldn't decline.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Vieto » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:57 pm UTC

Drugs? no thanks.

Also, you guys totally just made me spontaneously think of how Bohemian Rhapsody is about drugs. Thanks a lot guys. :(

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:09 pm UTC

Drugs? No. Bohemian Rhapsody is about coming to terms with one's homosexuality and the consequences that entails in an anti-homosexual culture. I think.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Mactabilis » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:11 pm UTC

I used to do a lot of drugs in high school. after high school mostly just smoked pot, here lately im trying to start a family and at least until pot is legal cant smoke it. i would if i could though, i hate drinking.



drugs as a concept are very weird.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Box Boy » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:16 pm UTC

I might be wrong but I thought pot made it harder to have children?
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Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:19 pm UTC

Sure, but not permanently. So in a month or so since the last time you smoked, you're back to normal.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Mactabilis » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:31 pm UTC

Well i stopped smoking when i met my fiance 3 years ago, building a family is more than just having kids.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby crowey » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:32 pm UTC

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thicknavyrain wrote:Interesting fact I picked up from my Religious Studies teacher (if someone knows more about this maybye they can message me) 80% of persistant offendors are hard drug users.
Well.. having no idea how correct that number is, I do know that most repeat offenders of generic criminal acts (which is what I assume you mean by persistent offenders) are from ... not exactly the nicest backgrounds and upbringing, and usually lack higher education, limiting their job selection and chance to improve their lot in life, so it seems reasonable that they would attempt an escape - any escape - to just feel good for a few brief moments.

Then there's also the fact that most hard drugs are horribly addictive, many of them almost as addictive as nicotine (ha ha! But seriously, that shit's addictive. Nicotine, that is. Very addictive.). In order to break the addiction, cold turkey is not always an option and rehab is expensive, so if you don't exactly have that great of an income, you're pretty much stuck with it.


Also, we've decided to count drug use as an offense, and that white collar crime doesn't actually bother us. So, these two attitudes skew that number to the point of uselessness (if it is correct at all).

Aaand it's only about what % of repeat offenders are hard drug users, not how many hard drug users are repeat offenders.
eg, 80% of repeat offenders are hard drug users. But if 90% of the population are hard drug users, that makes the first statistic mean something totally different than if 10% of the population are.
I'm not saying that's how it is, but those kinds of figures annoy me because they say nothing, really.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby the_bandersnatch » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:39 pm UTC

I'll try anything twice.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby markfiend » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:40 pm UTC

Pot, speed, LSD, psilocybin mushrooms, heroin (I was spiked, I've never done H voluntarily), cocaine and ecstasy.

I still occasionally use pot and coke. It's not a big deal.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby philsov » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:50 pm UTC

And how does tea count as a drug?


Caffiene. I really don't like the line being draw where it is, or people in general saying they'd never do coke as I've seen em pull all-nighters fueled by expresso. It's a mind-altering substance. The illegal drugs are more potent in these regards, but that's nothing some drug abuse (binge drinking, chain-smoking) can even up the score with. And just like there's a difference between a drink or two and getting drunk, there's a difference between high and stoned or taking a baby bump and going to the hospital. There's a lot of semantic nonsense associated with drugs, legal and illegal, imo.

Anyways, did a fair number of them back in college for a year or two. Kind of grew out of it, mostly. Still wish I could from time to time but now that I'm on the workforce I'd rather keep my income -- which lands me somewhere between the third and fourth answers.

I seriously recommend doing any hallucinogen (done salvia and shrooms, never had a chance to mess with lsd though I'm leery about that one anyways). And salvia at least in the US is perfectly legal. Never having a trip is on par with never having sex. Do it, at least once, if the opportunity ever arises.

Also, never ever ever ever mix xanex and alcohol; probably the scariest drug experience for me. Word of mouth is I had a great time, but I don't remember anything from about thirty minutes after I was given the pill to when I woke up the next morning. Anything. That is personally horrifying.

Never had a cigarette though. :P
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Chfan » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:55 pm UTC

I have never and plan on being a teetotaling, celibate, no-drug pussy. But I know that'll never happen so ('ll probably just draw the line at drugs (including pot).
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Eastwinn » Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:59 pm UTC

After seeing what drinking did to my brother, I was driven to straight-edge-dom. It wasn't a tough decision.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby doogly » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:07 pm UTC

Chfan wrote:I have never and plan on being a teetotaling, celibate, no-drug pussy. But I know that'll never happen so ('ll probably just draw the line at drugs (including pot).


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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Chfan » Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:20 pm UTC

Well, pussy in that I'm sacred to do anything like them.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby jerome_bc » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 pm UTC

In high school I used to do weed occasionally, but I havn't in a while. I have nothing against it, I just stopped hanging around my pot-smoking friends for unrelated reasons and I don't care enough to go out of my way to acquire some (i.e. I smoke when I can get free weed, which hasn't happened lately).

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Von Haus » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:48 pm UTC

Weed when available, which is sadly rare, as I don't see my old friend as much as I used to. Shrooms once in amsterdam, that's about it as far as I can remember.
If weed was legalised or at least readily available and with little to no chance o flegal consequences, I'd happily give up alchohol full stop and have weed at parties and gatherings instead. I am frequently disgusted by the actions of people around me (and myself on occasion) when under the influence of alcohol. Drooling unconsiousness, vomitting, shouting and violence, suicidal depression, whoreishness (and those who take advantage of drunks that go with it), loss of control and general inapropriate behaviour. While weed generally creates a relaxed casual atmosphere with a bit of giggles and a bit of munchies.
Maybe it's due to the culture surrounding alcohol consumption against the culture of weed users. But if I could choose one or the other, no more drink for me.

Harder drugs, never tried and don't really want to, not for "drugs are evil" reasons, I just prefer the relaxed sitting around chatting sort of gathering which I've never seen harder drugs add too.

Not taking drugs does not make someone a coward, however I feel the decision should be made by the user by looking at the evidence and effect of the drugs, not because they have been brought up to unquestioningly believe that drug use is bad and drug users always turn into criminals. I mean, my old school would've had me believe that one spliff would turn me into a wasted hobo soaked in vomit dying of some disgusting disease under a bridge. I'd say that that sort of zealous propoganda in place of questioning and reasoning will corrupt more young minds than drugs ever could.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Magic Smoothie » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:07 pm UTC

I drink tea, and occasionally coffee. I haven't been getting much from them recently, though. Maybe I'll have to move on to Yerba. Dammit, why didn't I believe my friends when they said tea was a gateway drink?

But seriously, I could see myself trying some drugs once or twice, but not anytime in the near future and nothing addictive. I don't think I would ever smoke anything, because I've had eight bouts of bronchitis and I would really rather not damage my lungs any further, especially considering how much I love to sing. I'm leery of LSD, but I would consider trying brownies, salvia, or shrooms.
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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby Schmut » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:10 pm UTC

I used to be quite a major pot-head... To the point where for an entire year, it'd be incredibly rare to find me sober. This inevitably ended with failing a year at college though, so I quit. There were other reasons too, such as the three months I spent at the end of that year, stoned 24-7 and completely paranoid about pretty much everything. Clearly it had become an addiction since there was no longer any immediate enjoyment and I continued to purchase weed and remain in a perpetual state of stoned. I have taken a few tokes on a spliff, when offered, since; most frequently it just returns me to a paranoid state. Though, sometimes I find that telling someone about the paranoia allows it to pass and suddenly I can feel at peace with being high. It's for this reason that I've no intention to entirely pass on the opportunity to smoke weed for the time being, however it will remain something that I only ever do on rare occasions.

Now, do we have to draw the line at illegal substances? Because there are some incredible legal drugs. I have taken some pills advertised as an ecstasy equivalent and I have smoked the legal and popular hallucinogenic, salvia divinorum. Salvia provides only an intense three minute trip; probably intense all the more so for being a stronger strand than I was advised to purchase. Afterwards one thinks, "Wow, that was mind blowing but I don't think I'll do it again for a long time...". In three years, I haven't yet tried salvia again but I look forward to doing so should I get the opportunity. Really, I'd rather try shrooms; even before I started smoking weed, these were on my list of things to try in life and they still are. So I'm looking out for that opportunity.
The ecstasy equivalent took effect mainly because of a chemical called BZP, the full chemical name for which I've forgotten. Legal here, in the United Kingdom, but not in the US or in most of Europe. As an ecstasy equivalent, euphoria came within twenty minutes. A friend and myself were acting incredibly giddy. There was also the feeling of calm and a lack of awareness for the events going on around you... It was my birthday (which is why I wanted to try something different) and I think some bad shit went down; two of my guests weren't supposed to be seen together by the male guest's girlfriend... and so she arrived, somehow, and I think there was a break-up. All the while, I was just interpreting the events as "bad vibes" and required everyone around me to just chill out, sway to the music, that sort of thing.
The effects aren't merely of euphoria, though; they also can be related to speed - a drug I would never want to try! For that reason, there were some swells of panic, only a little bit of paranoia and long after everybody had left I remained awake writing and doodling in a note-book; "5:30am, pupils still massively dilated. Am I afraid of clowns; should I be? DRUGS ARE BAD! Experience has been worth while but is NOT for repetition." Needless to say, I don't intend on doing those pills again.

These days, I consider drugs as being an experience that has been worthwhile. There are more experiences within the realm of drugs that I would like to try but since my two years of being a stoner I've come to a realisation that they should only be taken on rare occasions, when there are no other obligations for them to get in the way of. One day, I'm sure I'll feel happy that drugs are an experience I can leave in the past but for now, I've just gotten into my twenties and I want that little bit of freedom to remain.

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Re: Have You Ever Taken Drugs?

Postby SecondTalon » Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:13 pm UTC

Schmut wrote:Now, do we have to draw the line at illegal substances?
I think some people are using the definition I presented - a chemical or substance ingested, injected, or inhaled for recreational purposes, disregarding alcohol and tobacco. So what you discussed would count under that definition of Drug.

.. then again, so does Tea.
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